Seriously CCP, can you STOP re-releasing supposed "limited edition" ships everytime you want to squeeze for an extra buck.

What is the point of running a promotion stating "only 1000 ships made" if 6 months later you start giving them out again. It completely detracts from the whole point.

Release a batch, close production, and never make them again. This way people will have an incentive to actually try and get hold of them.

Seriously CCP, can you STOP re-releasing supposed "limited edition" ships everytime you want to squeeze for an extra buck.

What is the point of running a promotion stating "only 1000 ships made" if 6 months later you start giving them out again. It completely detracts from the whole point.

Release a batch, close production, and never make them again. This way people will have an incentive to actually try and get hold of them.

The first release had black borders and more rounded edges on the pixels.

The new ones are all foil bordered pixels.

If you were a true collector you could tell the difference.

Im not actually a collector, but i just feel annoyed on behalf of the people who are when i keep seeing it happen.

It wasn't specifically directed at you either, your post just snuck in before mine did while I was writing.

I understand collectors items that you can invest in and take down to the local comic/card store or pawnbroker ... I have a bit of trouble taking in-game collectors items too seriously though.

What is the point of running a promotion stating "only 1000 ships made" if 6 months later you start giving them out again.

First the ishukone shirts, and the 3 months it took for an official CCP reimbursement. Then then women's red/black coats (no reimbursement provided). Then the echelon, sansha codebreaker, primae. Then the snowball launchers that got needlessly deleted to make room for the new festival launcher (destroying hundreds of billions in rare collections).

Right now the echelon and these catalysts are in the "special edition" section of the forums-ámarket which strongly implied that no more of them would ever be created.

Can I be certain that alliance tournament ships won't be re-released in a future buddy programme? Can I be certain the state issue ships won't be given away as part of some ******** PLEX promotion? Can I be certain I won't wake up to find all players have received T2 BPOs as part of a holiday gift?

Have they ever run such a promotion, though?

Lesson provided: special-event items are not GÇ£limited editionsGÇ¥. Lesson learned: none.

No. It just implies that they're not something that's not produced in-game.

No.

I'd be fairly peeved if they suddenly made the Interbus Shuttle available for "PLEX".

Us geeks tend to be collectors of things, and CCP is geek as well, so I have a hard time understanding their mindset behind this latest escapade.

It is certainly going to make me rethink things when there is another limited ship available for any reason.

The marketing department doesn't give a **** about your "geek" collections or Ravens that fire lasers at planets.

They just want your green.

Better yet, stop making limited edition ships which sit and gather dust in hangers.

Yes, ishukone shirts come to mind.

'm asking CCP to communicate ahead of time which items are special and which are not.

You see "special edition" and think one thing, I see it and think another.

Again this is my whole point. I want to invest a huge amount of time in acquiring these rare items, but I can't do it if they get re-released every week.

The first release had black borders and more rounded edges on the pixels.

The new ones are all foil bordered pixels.

If you were a true collector you could tell the difference.

Lol magic the Gathering player? :P

inb4 this turns into another tippia vs. XXXX thread

I agree, it really annoys me when "limited edition" ships get handed out wholesale.

CCP should just stop releasing the useless limited edition ships at all. As they don't have any practical use(does not help to enhance the game context) and only make few collectors happy, while waste the resource and make many other players unhappy: people will just think "Well those limited issues are only for rich people I would never gotta use it".

CCP should just stop releasing the useless limited edition ships at all. As they don't have any practical use(does not help to enhance the game context) and only make few collectors happy, while waste the resource and make many other players unhappy: people will just think "Well those limited issues are only for rich people I would never gotta use it".

Risk should apply to collectables as well.

There is always a risk of some more being found/released, so invest at your own risk.
Nothing in eve should be risk free.

the post above sums everything up.

The destroyers are just todays example, they have released plenty of special and limited editions over time but then closed production runs thus making them a collectable. Now today announce they are suddenly giving out more as buddy program rewards!

it just seems when it comes to draining a few more dollars out the playerbase, anything is possible. Like the guy said above, in 3 years time will they be giving away Adrestias t everyone who buys a pack of 20 plex? probably not, but the point is you can't be sure.

And I would imagine it doesn't take too much time to make them since they are intentionally weak or clones of existing cheaper ships and in some cases even use already existing visual assets.

Risk should apply to collectables as well.

There is always a risk of some more being found/released, so invest at your own risk.
Nothing in eve should be risk free.

Do you include Gnosis, Etana, Echelon , Zephyr , or the pirate noobships?

I agree, it really annoys me when "limited edition" ships get handed out wholesale. To anyone who claims rare ship collectors need to accept risk too, I put this to you; regular market traders do their thing based on speculation from info released PRIOR to upcoming patches, in pvp we get to look at upcoming patch data then make choices as to which skills to invest in and which ships are going to be hot. But here, ccp, with absolutely no notice, **** collectors out of billions. That's not risk/reward. Today collectors logged on to find several inches of CCP up in their hole.

CCP should just stop releasing the useless limited edition ships at all. As they don't have any practical use(does not help to enhance the game context) and only make few collectors happy, while waste the resource and make many other players unhappy: people will just think "Well those limited issues are only for rich people I would never gotta use it".

I am also a collector so I appreciate what you are saying, but as long as they do not start being seeded they are still special /limited edition.

not really the right kind of risk though..... Devs making changes at a whim? Thats like saying theres risk in PVE is ccp halved rat bounties every now and then

People have huge interest in ships like the Guardian Vexor of which i think only 1 still exists?

Gnosis - Isn't this just a scaled up version of an asset already in NPC use?

Etana - Existing hull, with V3 it seems creating new variants for ship skins became easier (or so I was led to believe by the blog about it) so I'd still qualify this as reduced visual effort. The balance effort to make it desirable from a stat perspective on the other hand was justified by it's place as an earned reward in the AT.

Echelon/Zephyr - They exemplify the "exceptionally weak" portion, to the point that I'd have a hard time thinking that there was any long period of time balancing them, but I will concede they required new art assets. You could also include the Primae in this catagory as it was created before the noctis and at the time doesn't seem it was slated to have another ship created for wider use based off the hull.

Pirate noob ships - All weak variants of existing assets, which aer actually the best example of my point when viewed as a whole

I think we are long overdue for the return of the Gold Magnate. There's thousands of Gold Magnates on the Chinese server.

the post above sums everything up.

The destroyers are just todays example, they have released plenty of special and limited editions over time but then closed production runs thus making them a collectable. Now today announce they are suddenly giving out more as buddy program rewards!

it just seems when it comes to draining a few more dollars out the playerbase, anything is possible. Like the guy said above, in 3 years time will they be giving away Adrestias t everyone who buys a pack of 20 plex? probably not, but the point is you can't be sure.

The re-releasing of limited edition items is extremely frustrating to rare item collectors such as myself.
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Then the snowball launchers that got needlessly deleted to make room for the new festival launcher (destroying hundreds of billions in rare collections)
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Can I be certain that alliance tournament ships won't be re-released in a future buddy programme? Can I be certain the state issue ships won't be given away as part of some ******** PLEX promotion?

Why waste database space and art access in order to have ships no one will ever fly

Why waste database space and art access in order to have ships no one will ever fly

[I'm asking CCP to communicate ahead of time which items are special and which are not. Communicating by giving mixed signals then re-releasing items at random as some kind of "lesson" is not good communication. CCP's current approach marginalizes my style of gameplay, so what's the lesson I'm supposed to take from that? That collecting rare items is not a legitimate occupation in EVE Online?

...I do feel like the devs purposely take advantage of the in game market value of these items...

Are you saying a bunch of ISK rich players have been scammed!!! In Eve!!! Say it isn't so.

What did I miss this time?

Please give more info on any recent reissues.

Mr Epeen

Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program.

The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following,

• Quafe Catalyst
• Intaki Catalyst
• Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst
• Aliastra Catalyst
• Interbus Catalyst
• Catalyst

They make you angry, bro ?

Yup! I would rather see these ships seeded to be used instead of gathering dust in collectors hangers.

As for the rookie ships, Echalon(sp?) these would have made fantastic little ships to add to EVE and have flying around everywhere, instead they're all sitting in hangers doing nothing.

But is not that what happens in Real Life to the classic cars people collect ? And all those Star Wars toys still in boxes ?

Im not actually a collector, but i just feel annoyed on behalf of the people who are when i keep seeing it happen.