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Acquaz
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Acquaz on 15/09/2005 16:03:41 we all know about SE- SA, ASCN, FIX, BOB, Five, RA
so whats going on in north? anyone can fill in some recent info?
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TI0 101
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:04:00 -
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use ur ******* head?
http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/13.09.107.jpg Fallen Angel...
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:05:00 -
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jeebus, is this "ask a dumb question" day?
reading STILL > all
omgstopwiththequestions
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Second Lieutenant
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Acquaz
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: TI0 101 use ur fu*cking head?
http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/13.09.107.jpg
Does my question bothers you that much for you to come on forum and flame me?
/signing you up for anger management class.
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Acquaz
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher jeebus, is this "ask a dumb question" day?
reading STILL > all
omgstopwiththequestions
dbp
hmm thanks for replying a "stupid" question, does it make you even stupider?
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MailOrderBride
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:21:00 -
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Recent situation in PA is that currently ATUK has POS in Venal however not any real battles as such. Gank fleets and just a lot of blobbing up either side of a gate, then going home from what ive heard.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:31:00 -
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hmmmm well, JF and Omerta went hostile to PA after PA gangbanged Xelas with their mates right? Only things got complicated when PA triggered their mutual defence pact with IRON and FE and G and all sorts of other little alliances we'd never heard of. Suddenly we had about 100 new hostiles that started shooting at us on the PA's behalf in Pureblind on the way to Venal and we decided we'd be better off shooting them back rather than turning a blind eye so to speak.
Anyhow we spent a month of so shooting at people that shot us in PB and asking them exactly why they were so keen to fight on behalf of the PA (who we wanted to fight on another issue entirely).
In the end G and IRON annouced they were going independent and would no longer be fighting PA's battles for them and so we started tidying up the standings and trying to get back to the business of shooting the people we wanted to be shooting in the first place.
Unfortunately the bush telegraph in PB isn't that great and there are still lots of people who jumped on the bandwagon first time around shooting at us for reasons they don't fully understand.
Still, I did get to go back to Venal for the first time in ages yesterday and had some fun and games chasing gurrista-hunting PA members about until I finally got caught and lost my beloved Ishtar to LukeC of Freedom Confederation (PA) and one of his Raven flying wingmen :(
So thats the north from my perspective anyhow. 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Acquaz
so whats going on in north? anyone can fill in some recent info?
FE is dead.  |

Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Acquaz
so whats going on in north? anyone can fill in some recent info?
FE is dead. 
   
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Nuclear Option
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:52:00 -
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PA npc'd, rinse, repeat
On a side note, is there any other alliance that is composed of so many npc *****s?
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.09.15 17:11:00 -
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There will be those that run and hide. There will be those that fight and die.
What you choose to do is where you fit in.
PA is what PA will become. Game mechanics change and Alliance change with them. This is a game to all. Politics aside lets get this party started! -------------------------- Does it matter why, its when is more crucial!
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Hydrocarbon
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Posted - 2005.09.15 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Acquaz so whats going on in north? anyone can fill in some recent info?
There's about 8924567982347824587234 alliances up north. Hope you have a score card handy! :shock:
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2005.09.15 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Unfortunately the bush telegraph in PB isn't that great and there are still lots of people who jumped on the bandwagon first time around shooting at us for reasons they don't fully understand.
We shoot at you because of your evil subversive terrorism and long making-you-eyes-bleed posts. In fact, leadership in PA has been the only reason we didn't attack you for a while.
If you wish to repent, joining an alliance and mine Veldespar all day, then come talk.  * -"get real" |

hired goon
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Posted - 2005.09.15 21:31:00 -
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Yeah Jericho, you are KOS forever just because of the bloody forum posts.
What's going on in the north? We're all mining, and there is a DIE phoenix. The end.
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.09.15 22:33:00 -
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i keep flying through IRON and G space, their pretty good at defending tbh, usually i can't hang around for long, only kill i've got is a guy in a newbie corp (osprey) 
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Berneh
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Posted - 2005.09.15 23:21:00 -
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looks like pa have a big slice
Originally by: Oveur (at the eve radio party 05) You havent seen anything yet
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.09.15 23:42:00 -
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Quote: We shoot at you because of your evil subversive terrorism and long making-you-eyes-bleed posts. In fact, leadership in PA has been the only reason we didn't attack you for a while. If you wish to repent, joining an alliance and mine Veldespar all day, then come talk.
Only territorialist lickspittles intent on feathering their ill-gotten mining cartel gains would consider our freespacer message subversive 
(might be better to have that discussion on the IC boards though) 
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2005.09.16 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Only territorialist lickspittles intent on feathering their ill-gotten mining cartel gains would consider our freespacer message subversive 
(might be better to have that discussion on the IC boards though) 
 * -"get real" |

FOEHAMMER006
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Posted - 2005.09.16 01:10:00 -
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Fe dead? HA no Diplomat at your service |

fugazii
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Posted - 2005.09.16 02:50:00 -
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fe is dead, you are just placeholders.
/wow server down 
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MUNTED
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Posted - 2005.09.16 03:25:00 -
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Edited by: MUNTED on 16/09/2005 03:27:23 why is the north so open? the south has a alliance jammed in every region where as the north seems empty
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Karmae
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Posted - 2005.09.16 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
hmmmm
yawwwnnnnnnn
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.09.16 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: Karmae Edited by: Karmae on 16/09/2005 04:19:08
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Unfortunately the bush telegraph in PB isn't that great and there are still lots of people who jumped on the bandwagon first time around shooting at us for reasons they don't fully understand.
Oh the irony in this part of map of all places! LMFAO!
ROFL I noticed that too.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Acquaz
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Posted - 2005.09.16 13:35:00 -
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So any potential alliance with strong leadership in north capable to take over all regions? and how bad is pirate issue in north?
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Franky B
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Posted - 2005.09.16 16:39:00 -
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piracy is only an issue in pureblind (due to its proximity to secure space and thus equipment). by piracy, I mean corps unaligned to alliances in general.
doom being an example
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.09.16 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Acquaz So any potential alliance with strong leadership in north capable to take over all regions? and how bad is pirate issue in north?
Yes but we're on holiday in the southwest at the moment, we'll be back to restore order when dbp has finally got a suntan.
holidays 4tw!
Eve Blacklight Style
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.09.16 16:58:00 -
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Boring.
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.09.16 18:00:00 -
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Pirates @_@?!
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2005.09.16 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Zagum Darkfin on 16/09/2005 18:11:21 PA are "practicing" their scouting skills in Battleships by warping to moons in Venal at 100km. One might think this is a safe distance, but sometimes its not enough. Having witnessed these attempts firsthand, the results are not encouraging.
We hope that some of PA's more experienced members teach the rest of the alliance about the great use/magic of the "Scanner" buttom. We hate getting our kills stolen by a greedy POS. We prefer a more close up battles.
This has been a public service announcement by me, myself, and I. Safe Travels. 
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Moridan
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Posted - 2005.09.16 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Acquaz So any potential alliance with strong leadership in north capable to take over all regions? and how bad is pirate issue in north?
Yes but we're on holiday in the southwest at the moment, we'll be back to restore order when dbp has finally got a suntan.
holidays 4tw!
We'll be ready to hand out cookies when you come back.
The north? Well, it looks like NBSI is hangin cool up there, threatening ASCN from across the galaxy all the time. The eastern side is a mess. PA is doing whatever PA does, i think thats trying to avoid atuk gank squads. IRON and G are sitting peachy keen, playing in our Pure Blind sandbox with the upstart bullies like DIE and Doom. "Speak quietly and carry a big torpedo."
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joshmanicus
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Posted - 2005.09.16 19:09:00 -
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Nothing to see here.
Move along.
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Gaeth hEirennan
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Posted - 2005.09.16 21:59:00 -
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Edited by: Gaeth hEirennan on 16/09/2005 22:02:09
Originally by: Imran Pirates @_@?!
There comes a time in a young girl's life when she needs to assess the path she has chosen through these tumultuous times and perhaps reconsider her options. I'm of course referring to ImranÆs career change, and very few people named Gaeth hEirennan are exempt from the agonizing conundrum of whether to forge ahead with their current corporation or to form a new corporation whoÆs sole purpose is to pod Imran so continuously that it crashes the ôclone serverö which slows EVERYTHING down not unlike walking to school on those days after it rains and all the worms are out on the sidewalk and street and you have to tip-toe all 5 miles, stopping only to throw-up and check the mailboxes for ****.
If you put everything into perspective, being part of Death Row isn't that bad a choice. Consider the snow globe. It's a little dome filled with a picturesque scene, water, and glitter. When you shake it, you get a nice little snowy scene. When you're in Death Row, it's just like living in a snow globe, except your snow globe is filled with little acid-spewing insects and everything pretty is replaced with dread and misery and that stupid, ugly new James Bond guyà Pierce Bronson or whatever his name is. Wait, not the new ôNEWö James Bond guy, the one before him. Either way itÆs pretty bad.
Now that youÆre gone, DEK feels a lot like a pair of Velcro underpants. So, I am hiring a replacement for Imran and new best friend. Imran was the only one who made my limited and fleeting grasp of reality appear superior in comparison.
Qualifications:
You can watch an entire block of programming on "E!" and then rewatch the show that started the block three hours earlier without remembering that you had already seen it.
You can measure someone's inseam by licking up the inside of their leg.
You can spell better than frogs and most birds and anybody in Death Row. You can erect a hammock very rapidly and then pretend to fall asleep, luring those @#$DAM@#$ squirrels into a false sense of security.
Your powers of mesmerism confuse people into thinking that they are traveling into the future faster then 1 second at a time.
Whenever you want, you can convert GMT to any of the 3 or 4 US time zones.
If you would like to be my new best friend, please EVEMAIL me in game with and tell me what you are wearing.
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.09.16 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Gaeth hEirennan Edited by: Gaeth hEirennan on 16/09/2005 22:02:09
Originally by: Imran Pirates @_@?!
There comes a time in a young girl's life when she needs to assess the path she has chosen through these tumultuous times and perhaps reconsider her options. I'm of course referring to ImranÆs career change, and very few people named Gaeth hEirennan are exempt from the agonizing conundrum of whether to forge ahead with their current corporation or to form a new corporation whoÆs sole purpose is to pod Imran so continuously that it crashes the ôclone serverö which slows EVERYTHING down not unlike walking to school on those days after it rains and all the worms are out on the sidewalk and street and you have to tip-toe all 5 miles, stopping only to throw-up and check the mailboxes for ****.
If you put everything into perspective, being part of Death Row isn't that bad a choice. Consider the snow globe. It's a little dome filled with a picturesque scene, water, and glitter. When you shake it, you get a nice little snowy scene. When you're in Death Row, it's just like living in a snow globe, except your snow globe is filled with little acid-spewing insects and everything pretty is replaced with dread and misery and that stupid, ugly new James Bond guyà Pierce Bronson or whatever his name is. Wait, not the new ôNEWö James Bond guy, the one before him. Either way itÆs pretty bad.
Now that youÆre gone, DEK feels a lot like a pair of Velcro underpants. So, I am hiring a replacement for Imran and new best friend. Imran was the only one who made my limited and fleeting grasp of reality appear superior in comparison.
Qualifications:
You can watch an entire block of programming on "E!" and then rewatch the show that started the block three hours earlier without remembering that you had already seen it.
You can measure someone's inseam by licking up the inside of their leg.
You can spell better than frogs and most birds and anybody in Death Row. You can erect a hammock very rapidly and then pretend to fall asleep, luring those @#$DAM@#$ squirrels into a false sense of security.
Your powers of mesmerism confuse people into thinking that they are traveling into the future faster then 1 second at a time.
Whenever you want, you can convert GMT to any of the 3 or 4 US time zones.
If you would like to be my new best friend, please EVEMAIL me in game with and tell me what you are wearing.
Erm... Wow? See what you've done to Gaeth Imran!
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Death Merchant
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Posted - 2005.09.16 22:52:00 -
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I think Gaeth has been infected by Imranitis. Gaeth look for these symptoms:
The first symptom of imranitis is often over-sensitivity or burning sensation on the skin in the affected area. After a few days, a rash develops. It usually appears as a band, following the route of a nerve under the skin.
At first, the rash consists of small red spots and reddened skin in the same area. The spots then turn into small blisters, which dry up after a few days, and gradually form scabs. Once the scabs have fallen off, a small pock-mark may be left.
Imranitis is often a painful condition. As the virus affects the nerves, the pain may continue after the rash has cleared, sometimes lingering for weeks, months or even years(or until Imran comes back). This is called post-imrantic neuralgia. It is more likely in older people and in people who live in deklein.
Seek treatment before its too late.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.09.16 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Franky B piracy is only an issue in pureblind (due to its proximity to secure space and thus equipment). by piracy, I mean corps unaligned to alliances in general.
doom being an example
So lemme get this straight, you reckon all corps unaligned to alliances are pirates? 
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Spiff Jones
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Posted - 2005.09.16 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: Spiff Jones on 16/09/2005 23:35:41
Originally by: Death Merchant I think Gaeth has been infected by Imranitis. Gaeth look for these symptoms:
The first symptom of imranitis is often over-sensitivity or burning sensation on the skin in the affected area. After a few days, a rash develops. It usually appears as a band, following the route of a nerve under the skin.
At first, the rash consists of small red spots and reddened skin in the same area. The spots then turn into small blisters, which dry up after a few days, and gradually form scabs. Once the scabs have fallen off, a small pock-mark may be left.
Imranitis is often a painful condition. As the virus affects the nerves, the pain may continue after the rash has cleared, sometimes lingering for weeks, months or even years(or until Imran comes back). This is called post-imrantic neuralgia. It is more likely in older people and in people who live in deklein.
Seek treatment before its too late.
Yea, mine got so bad i hadda stop playing eve for awhile... **** you imran! 
   
EDIT: taffun too  
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.17 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Acquaz Edited by: Acquaz on 15/09/2005 16:03:41 we all know about SE- SA, ASCN, FIX, BOB, Five, RA
so whats going on in north? anyone can fill in some recent info?
F-E vastly becoming one of the best alliances in the game...
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.09.17 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 17/09/2005 12:20:48
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Franky B piracy is only an issue in pureblind (due to its proximity to secure space and thus equipment). by piracy, I mean corps unaligned to alliances in general.
doom being an example
So lemme get this straight, you reckon all corps unaligned to alliances are pirates? 
*cough*
Well, if you can explain me how can lone ishtar fitted with web & scrambler help fighting vs. tyrants of the north :)
I can say only this, the tyrant has gone to BoB. And as far as i'm concerned, democracy is just terror of the mass, and since mass is generally 'uneducated' it is not all THAT good. Especially in game.
In RL you can have very good example of *democracy* and its freedom export service called army.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.09.17 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 17/09/2005 12:20:48
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Franky B piracy is only an issue in pureblind (due to its proximity to secure space and thus equipment). by piracy, I mean corps unaligned to alliances in general.
doom being an example
So lemme get this straight, you reckon all corps unaligned to alliances are pirates? 
*cough*
Well, if you can explain me how can lone ishtar fitted with web & scrambler help fighting vs. tyrants of the north :)
I can say only this, the tyrant has gone to BoB. And as far as i'm concerned, democracy is just terror of the mass, and since mass is generally 'uneducated' it is not all THAT good. Especially in game.
In RL you can have very good example of *democracy* and its freedom export service called army.
Well I tried fitting leaflet distributors and loudspeakers in the midslots Luke but I didn't have the CPU so had to settle for web and scram 
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.17 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Franky B piracy is only an issue in pureblind (due to its proximity to secure space and thus equipment). by piracy, I mean corps unaligned to alliances in general.
doom being an example
So lemme get this straight, you reckon all corps unaligned to alliances are pirates? 
Piracy is soo much overused in this game, basicly everyone shoots everyone, and since most claimed pirates just shoot everyone, everyone is a pirate
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |

Franky B
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Posted - 2005.09.18 13:14:00 -
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thats kinda it yea. im to lazy to be specific but if I MUST.
then of course PB has problems from "other corporations". (i guess im being even more vague...)
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Johshua Blake
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Posted - 2005.09.19 10:48:00 -
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Are nuttz are growing so fast we cant buy underwear fast enuff. We're having trouble keeping are pants up. Any suggestions?
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.19 14:45:00 -
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Regular release Johshua, prefrably through the application of a willing individual from the opposite sex (or not in some cases)
as for NBSI, we're attacknig VI in Great wildlands atm, helping our friends in Foundation fight off the evil oppressors.
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.09.19 16:29:00 -
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I hear IRON might be ****** now after losing darko.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.09.19 21:30:00 -
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Still boring :) I had a nightmare of flying barge...
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Moridan
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Posted - 2005.09.20 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne I hear IRON might be ****** now after losing darko.
We'll miss his screaming on TS. heh. "Speak quietly and carry a big torpedo."
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.09.20 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne I hear IRON might be ****** now after losing darko.
No im sure they will be just fine if not better without me .
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.09.20 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: DrunkenOne I hear IRON might be ****** now after losing darko.
No im sure they will be just fine if not better without me .
mhm.
:)
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Gaeth hEirennan
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Posted - 2005.09.20 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: DrunkenOne I hear IRON might be ****** now after losing darko.
No im sure they will be just fine if not better without me .
Best of Luck Darko. Going to miss your homo-erotic ranting on TS.
Love, G
PS: What are you wearing?! ... and do lie this time!
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.20 13:31:00 -
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jesus, F-E are getting big ! 
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.09.20 19:58:00 -
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omghi2u Gaeth!!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.20 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff jesus, F-E are getting big ! 
Why thankee, big boy 
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Amarr knight
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Posted - 2005.09.21 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Voltex
Originally by: Acquaz Edited by: Acquaz on 15/09/2005 16:03:41 we all know about SE- SA, ASCN, FIX, BOB, Five, RA
so whats going on in north? anyone can fill in some recent info?
F-E vastly becoming one of the best alliances in the game...
I laughed so hard you made me cry. No offence.
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Ugluuk
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Posted - 2005.09.21 22:39:00 -
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Hehe...This gave me a good laugh..
We will see how long it last.. http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/ http://bydi.digilo.net/evekill/
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.21 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ugluuk Hehe...This gave me a good laugh..
We will see how long it last..
keep em coming gank boy 
Thing i loved mostly was having a nice CLOSE-RANGE fight v ATUK the other night in D7-ZAC, we both had aprox the same amount of BS and we won But ATUK did beat us a few nights earlier so its all fun, And as one of our members rightly pointed out, You dont see as many close range fights as u used to. So it was good fun 
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.09.21 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Voltex
Originally by: Ugluuk Hehe...This gave me a good laugh..
We will see how long it last..
keep em coming gank boy 
Thing i loved mostly was having a nice CLOSE-RANGE fight v ATUK the other night in D7-ZAC, we both had aprox the same amount of BS and we won But ATUK did beat us a few nights earlier so its all fun, And as one of our members rightly pointed out, You dont see as many close range fights as u used to. So it was good fun 
m8, really don't kid yourself. Yes, you held the battlefield. So if you think that's winning fine with me. Also, we had 10 bs's while you had 14 at the gate. You had more support. We jumped in, and you guys had more bs's come in during the fight. We killed 13 bs's, and there was 7 fe bs's at the gate when we warped out. Do the math like we did. Never the less, we jumped in, we had fun, and we all fought. Just leave the winning claims out of it lol.
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.21 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Voltex on 21/09/2005 23:22:43
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Voltex
Originally by: Ugluuk Hehe...This gave me a good laugh..
We will see how long it last..
keep em coming gank boy 
Thing i loved mostly was having a nice CLOSE-RANGE fight v ATUK the other night in D7-ZAC, we both had aprox the same amount of BS and we won But ATUK did beat us a few nights earlier so its all fun, And as one of our members rightly pointed out, You dont see as many close range fights as u used to. So it was good fun 
m8, really don't kid yourself. Yes, you held the battlefield. So if you think that's winning fine with me. Also, we had 10 bs's while you had 14 at the gate. You had more support. We jumped in, and you guys had more bs's come in during the fight. We killed 13 bs's, and there was 7 fe bs's at the gate when we warped out. Do the math like we did. Never the less, we jumped in, we had fun, and we all fought. Just leave the winning claims out of it lol.
Oh i wasnt gloating, thats why i put that you pwned us a few nights earlier, it beets chasing SMASH snipers who wont engage close unless they outnumber the opposition.
Oh and me saying we are becoming the best is wrong, But MAYBE someday 
EDIT: also i dont think u killed 13 BS, maybe u are thinking of a diffrent fight we only lost a couple in the one i am talking about, Tuesday night it was
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.09.21 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Voltex Edited by: Voltex on 21/09/2005 23:22:43
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Voltex
Originally by: Ugluuk Hehe...This gave me a good laugh..
We will see how long it last..
keep em coming gank boy 
Thing i loved mostly was having a nice CLOSE-RANGE fight v ATUK the other night in D7-ZAC, we both had aprox the same amount of BS and we won But ATUK did beat us a few nights earlier so its all fun, And as one of our members rightly pointed out, You dont see as many close range fights as u used to. So it was good fun 
m8, really don't kid yourself. Yes, you held the battlefield. So if you think that's winning fine with me. Also, we had 10 bs's while you had 14 at the gate. You had more support. We jumped in, and you guys had more bs's come in during the fight. We killed 13 bs's, and there was 7 fe bs's at the gate when we warped out. Do the math like we did. Never the less, we jumped in, we had fun, and we all fought. Just leave the winning claims out of it lol.
Oh i wasnt gloating, thats why i put that you pwned us a few nights earlier, it beets chasing SMASH snipers who wont engage close unless they outnumber the opposition.
Oh and me saying we are becoming the best is wrong, But MAYBE someday 
EDIT: also i dont think u killed 13 BS, maybe u are thinking of a diffrent fight we only lost a couple in the one i am talking about, Tuesday night it was
m8, u guys really need a killboard, this is from tuesday night:
D7 fight tuesday night
Middle of the page, shows what we killed in that engagement, and check the losses page for our losses. Can any1 say offtopic? Anyways it was a very very good fight. Kudos to fe for that.
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EL TITAN
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Posted - 2005.09.21 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Voltex Edited by: Voltex on 21/09/2005 23:22:43
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Voltex
Originally by: Ugluuk Hehe...This gave me a good laugh..
We will see how long it last..
keep em coming gank boy 
Thing i loved mostly was having a nice CLOSE-RANGE fight v ATUK the other night in D7-ZAC, we both had aprox the same amount of BS and we won But ATUK did beat us a few nights earlier so its all fun, And as one of our members rightly pointed out, You dont see as many close range fights as u used to. So it was good fun 
m8, really don't kid yourself. Yes, you held the battlefield. So if you think that's winning fine with me. Also, we had 10 bs's while you had 14 at the gate. You had more support. We jumped in, and you guys had more bs's come in during the fight. We killed 13 bs's, and there was 7 fe bs's at the gate when we warped out. Do the math like we did. Never the less, we jumped in, we had fun, and we all fought. Just leave the winning claims out of it lol.
Oh i wasnt gloating, thats why i put that you pwned us a few nights earlier, it beets chasing SMASH snipers who wont engage close unless they outnumber the opposition.
Oh and me saying we are becoming the best is wrong, But MAYBE someday 
EDIT: also i dont think u killed 13 BS, maybe u are thinking of a diffrent fight we only lost a couple in the one i am talking about, Tuesday night it was
We did kill 13 battleships, we won that fight by a mile stone :)
gf though _________________________________________________ <3 hi |

Nikki7
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Posted - 2005.09.22 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Nikki7 on 22/09/2005 00:37:09

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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.22 00:43:00 -
[61]
Originally by: EL TITAN
Originally by: Voltex Edited by: Voltex on 21/09/2005 23:22:43
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Voltex
Originally by: Ugluuk Hehe...This gave me a good laugh..
We will see how long it last..
keep em coming gank boy 
Thing i loved mostly was having a nice CLOSE-RANGE fight v ATUK the other night in D7-ZAC, we both had aprox the same amount of BS and we won But ATUK did beat us a few nights earlier so its all fun, And as one of our members rightly pointed out, You dont see as many close range fights as u used to. So it was good fun 
m8, really don't kid yourself. Yes, you held the battlefield. So if you think that's winning fine with me. Also, we had 10 bs's while you had 14 at the gate. You had more support. We jumped in, and you guys had more bs's come in during the fight. We killed 13 bs's, and there was 7 fe bs's at the gate when we warped out. Do the math like we did. Never the less, we jumped in, we had fun, and we all fought. Just leave the winning claims out of it lol.
Oh i wasnt gloating, thats why i put that you pwned us a few nights earlier, it beets chasing SMASH snipers who wont engage close unless they outnumber the opposition.
Oh and me saying we are becoming the best is wrong, But MAYBE someday 
EDIT: also i dont think u killed 13 BS, maybe u are thinking of a diffrent fight we only lost a couple in the one i am talking about, Tuesday night it was
We did kill 13 battleships, we won that fight by a mile stone :)
gf though
hmm, i dont wanna cause a flaming but i honestly think we are mixed up. Because at the end of the fight only 2 of your BS reportadly got away and there was about 6-7 F-E BS + support left at the WHJ gate mopping up the mess. so if you guys had only a few BS get away and we had 6-7 that dont mean u win 
Again dont flame me, just a little confused here.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.09.22 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Voltex hmm, i dont wanna cause a flaming but i honestly think we are mixed up, i aint denying that you got 13 BS kills but the general feeling after the fight was that we won. Because at the end of the fight only 2 of your BS reportadly got away and there was about 6-7 F-E BS + support left at the WHJ gate mopping up the mess. so if you guys had only a few BS get away and we had 6-7 that dont mean u win 
Again dont flame me, just a little confused here.
EDIT: here is the offical F-E killboard Linkage
dude, check our killboard link. If u don't believe that, there will be fraps released soon. I think it's pretty weird you guys did not notice 13 bs losses tbh. that's what u get for being a big alliance
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EL TITAN
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Posted - 2005.09.22 01:05:00 -
[63]
Edited by: EL TITAN on 22/09/2005 01:09:02 we killed 13 bs which is alot more than you killed, we also killed alot more support than you did. see how we won?
also dont forget the fact that you had 40 and we had 20 ships, and we jumped into you, even with your drones out. :)
gf though _________________________________________________ <3 hi |

Centuri
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Posted - 2005.09.22 01:37:00 -
[64]
It was a good fight though. Yarr.
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.22 03:00:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Voltex on 22/09/2005 03:00:52 Yup i see how u can say u won cos u killed more BS, but we did have a bigger fleet. So u may have killed more BS but we killed your whole fleet pretty much, but you had less ships than us which is why u killed more - Ya get me 
I agree tho it was a very fun fight, what u guys think of our killboard? :)
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.22 03:20:00 -
[66]
tbh everyone should just be happy they got a fight and stfu. fights like that keep becoming more and more rare. So get em where you can and stfu.
that being said all I have to say is: OMFG WE PWN JOO. WE S000 1337 AND JOO SUXORZ!!!111111
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EL TITAN
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Posted - 2005.09.22 04:29:00 -
[67]
rofl voltex im sorry but you arent making much sense. your saying its ok for us to kill more of you, because we had les s numbers in a fleet fight?
more battleships mean more firepower, which mean ships go down faster, if anything you "shoulda" won.
gf though it was a good fight
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.09.22 05:13:00 -
[68]
Originally by: EL TITAN rofl voltex im sorry but you arent making much sense. your saying its ok for us to kill more of you, because we had les s numbers in a fleet fight?
more battleships mean more firepower, which mean ships go down faster, if anything you "shoulda" won.
gf though it was a good fight
Nah titan hes effectively saying that even though you killed more, they won, because they held the battlefield after the fight or something, which was apparently their goal. Sounds like a sweet fight though, close range 4tw.
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Hunkof BurningLove
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Posted - 2005.09.22 05:17:00 -
[69]
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Originally by: EL TITAN rofl voltex im sorry but you arent making much sense. your saying its ok for us to kill more of you, because we had les s numbers in a fleet fight?
more battleships mean more firepower, which mean ships go down faster, if anything you "shoulda" won.
gf though it was a good fight
Nah titan hes effectively saying that even though you killed more, they won, because they held the battlefield after the fight or something, which was apparently their goal. Sounds like a sweet fight though, close range 4tw.
You suck. 
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EL TITAN
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Posted - 2005.09.22 05:24:00 -
[70]
they only held the 'field' cause they had more people coming in, and no matter how you wanna twist it, we won that fight fair and square :) _________________________________________________ <3 hi |

Hunkof BurningLove
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Posted - 2005.09.22 05:28:00 -
[71]
Originally by: EL TITAN they only held the 'field' cause they had more people coming in, and no matter how you wanna twist it, we won that fight fair and square :)
You know I think you made your point ffs.
Christopher Multsanti |

EL TITAN
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Posted - 2005.09.22 05:32:00 -
[72]
ty :) and just to add the fight wasnt for any territory, it was just a us vs them thing, and we killed more so we won k drunken :) _________________________________________________ <3 hi |

Hunkof BurningLove
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Posted - 2005.09.22 05:35:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Hunkof BurningLove on 22/09/2005 05:38:05
Originally by: EL TITAN ty :) and just to add the fight wasnt for any territory, it was just a us vs them thing, and we killed more so we won k drunken :)
Your just trying to wind me up now.
Edit: and I think the point that drunked was making was that, dosent matter whether the fight was for a box of cookies, the genral rule is, if you force the other guys to warp you have a good claim to saying you won the fight.
Christopher Multsanti |

EL TITAN
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Posted - 2005.09.22 05:40:00 -
[74]
no not really, try again. _________________________________________________ <3 hi |

Hunkof BurningLove
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Posted - 2005.09.22 05:42:00 -
[75]
your really annoying me now, read my post again, if you somehow got from that, that I said either side won the side then you are wrong.
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.09.22 05:42:00 -
[76]
Quote: Your just trying to wind me up now.
Edit: and I think the point that drunked was making was that, dosent matter whether the fight was for a box of cookies, the genral rule is, if you force the other guys to warp you have a good claim to saying you won the fight.
Holy p00p...
I must have won some 3000 fights by now after I have watched people warp away from me/mygroup :D. Atlast, I can feel proud of having achieved something :p
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Hunkof BurningLove
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Posted - 2005.09.22 05:56:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Stormfront
Quote: Your just trying to wind me up now.
Edit: and I think the point that drunked was making was that, dosent matter whether the fight was for a box of cookies, the genral rule is, if you force the other guys to warp you have a good claim to saying you won the fight.
Holy p00p...
I must have won some 3000 fights by now after I have watched people warp away from me/mygroup :D. Atlast, I can feel proud of having achieved something :p
and to you Storm you are also wrong.
I am going to work now, and may not be able to post this afternoon when I get back. But feel free to think about it for a while and you both may come up with the right answer.
Christopher Multsanti |

Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2005.09.22 06:27:00 -
[78]
Nothing at the moment....But now that I have returned to Huff Technologies....that may all change. I have unfinished business in the Vale of the Silent...and other places.
Jhered Out!
   
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.09.22 06:41:00 -
[79]
Is that the real Christopher?
Don't speak russian. F1,f2,f3...
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EL TITAN
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Posted - 2005.09.22 06:44:00 -
[80]
Edited by: EL TITAN on 22/09/2005 06:44:27
Originally by: Hunkof BurningLove
Originally by: Stormfront
Quote: Your just trying to wind me up now.
Edit: and I think the point that drunked was making was that, dosent matter whether the fight was for a box of cookies, the genral rule is, if you force the other guys to warp you have a good claim to saying you won the fight.
Holy p00p...
I must have won some 3000 fights by now after I have watched people warp away from me/mygroup :D. Atlast, I can feel proud of having achieved something :p
and to you Storm you are also wrong.
I am going to work now, and may not be able to post this afternoon when I get back. But feel free to think about it for a while and you both may come up with the right answer.
YOU STILL DONT GET IT THERE IS NO GENERAL RULE THAT SAYS THE ONE WHO REMAINS IN THE BATTLEFIELD WON THE FIGHT. JUST CAUSE YOU REMAINED TO PICK UP THE CANS DOESNT MEAN YOU WON. got it? think about that while your at work or when you get back :)
ps: an now im off to bed so cya _________________________________________________ <3 hi |

Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.09.22 07:01:00 -
[81]
Originally by: EL TITAN Edited by: EL TITAN on 22/09/2005 06:44:27
Originally by: Hunkof BurningLove
Originally by: Stormfront
Quote: Your just trying to wind me up now.
Edit: and I think the point that drunked was making was that, dosent matter whether the fight was for a box of cookies, the genral rule is, if you force the other guys to warp you have a good claim to saying you won the fight.
Holy p00p...
I must have won some 3000 fights by now after I have watched people warp away from me/mygroup :D. Atlast, I can feel proud of having achieved something :p
and to you Storm you are also wrong.
I am going to work now, and may not be able to post this afternoon when I get back. But feel free to think about it for a while and you both may come up with the right answer.
YOU STILL DONT GET IT THERE IS NO GENERAL RULE THAT SAYS THE ONE WHO REMAINS IN THE BATTLEFIELD WON THE FIGHT. JUST CAUSE YOU REMAINED TO PICK UP THE CANS DOESNT MEAN YOU WON. got it? think about that while your at work or when you get back :)
ps: an now im off to bed so cya
NO YOU'RE WRONG
OH WAIT MAYBE I'M WRONG....
HMMM NO I'M PRETTY SURE YOU ARE WRONG....
HMMM BUT MAYBE YOU HAVE A POINT AND I'M WRONG....
ETC ETC.....
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2005.09.22 08:18:00 -
[82]
Depending on the quality of ships fittings, the side that holds the field recovers a percentage of all losses.
After taking that into account, the victor could be considered the side who has dealt the most financial damage.
Also you should take into account ease of resupply - if the "winning" team doesn't have the ability to replace losses, it doesn't matter how much better they score, their losses reduce thier numbers for a more extended period of time, reducing their ability to vie for the territory in question.
You don't have to politicize these facts, just consider them when you try to assess the results of the battle. ------- K. Raven
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Silvitni
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Posted - 2005.09.22 08:40:00 -
[83]
Originally by: EL TITAN Edited by: EL TITAN on 22/09/2005 06:44:27
Originally by: Hunkof BurningLove
Originally by: Stormfront
Quote: Your just trying to wind me up now.
Edit: and I think the point that drunked was making was that, dosent matter whether the fight was for a box of cookies, the genral rule is, if you force the other guys to warp you have a good claim to saying you won the fight.
Holy p00p...
I must have won some 3000 fights by now after I have watched people warp away from me/mygroup :D. Atlast, I can feel proud of having achieved something :p
and to you Storm you are also wrong.
I am going to work now, and may not be able to post this afternoon when I get back. But feel free to think about it for a while and you both may come up with the right answer.
YOU STILL DONT GET IT THERE IS NO GENERAL RULE THAT SAYS THE ONE WHO REMAINS IN THE BATTLEFIELD WON THE FIGHT. JUST CAUSE YOU REMAINED TO PICK UP THE CANS DOESNT MEAN YOU WON. got it? think about that while your at work or when you get back :)
ps: an now im off to bed so cya
Let¦s take an example.
Two boxers fight each other in the ring. Boxer A (F-E) and Boxer B (5)
Until like seventh round boxer B (5) has thrown more hits at Boxer A (F-E) and got more points. But in round eight, boxer B (5) runs out of stamina, because boxer A keeps comming at him. Finaly boxer A (F-E) knocks out boxer B (5).
Who did win the match? Boxer A, because off a knockout? Or did boxer B win on points, eventhough he got knocked out off the ring (battlefield)?
Me thinks Boxer A 
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.09.22 08:41:00 -
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It is generally accepted that about 50% of the cost of losing a ship is in the can after you got blown up. This goes up to ~80% when using tech II guns. By loss I mean of course the whatever you pay for insurance, the difference between the payout and a new ship (which is btw at the moment virtually 0) and the cost of new equipment.
Now I wasn't there tueday, but judging from the killmails there were *quite* a few BS equipped with tech 2 weaponry, making those 10 BS losses financially speaking more of a loss than the 13 since F-E got to scoop the loot.
However, tbh I don't really care who won and who didn't. You came to D7, we were ready, you chose to engage, one hit volley'd a bunch of our BS with 7 t2 fitted Tempests, we popped the Tempests and beat your fleet back to whatever system you operate from and we all had fun. How this can again result in [5] forumboy flame wars is beyond me, but alas, it's the sad truth of these forums.
Compare to every other day of the week and weekend where we're looking at a bunch of sniper BS hopping around D7, IMK and H-W to score some cheap ganks that run/log when facing a remotely equal fleet you can say I'm pretty disappointed I wasn't there tueday...
Sniping with 4 WCS is lame ok? Stop it plz. If you want to fight, come in ships like you did tueday and we'll be there. If you want forum flame fests and gloat how uber you are for ganking haulers and frigs from 140km keep up the sniping.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.09.22 09:04:00 -
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Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 22/09/2005 09:09:07 people from atuk need to stfu in this
f-e dont understand this kind of warfare yet guys.
we killed more bs than they did and we did it with less ships
end of the day we know what we need to know
we are so much better at this game than they are. rest of atuk stfu
oh and Shayla Sh'inlux your an idiot atuk will fight every day of the week and tbh most people know we do. watch the fa vid for the size of our balls. we have two of the best fc's in the game in our fleets and they will always engage a fight that isnt suicide. as for 4 stabs plz! i think you are lying. i know how many i have and it aint 4. and as for ganks? dude if you cant put up a fleet we will wont stay logged of thinking Gosh i hope f-e come to play soon im so bored. we will terrorise you and your members and disrupt your every day operations.
ITS WHAT WE DO now i understand how annoying it must be, you got spanked in GW by atuk guys and now you getting the same thing done to you when you thought you would be safe in f-e, WRONG oh well enjoy eve we do and when we win fights like that it makes us smile STAN
FACTA NON VERBA HUNTING RUSSIANS ONE SAFESPOT AT A TIME |

StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.09.22 09:14:00 -
[86]
oh and to the rest of f-e your leaders are claiming victory to make the fleet commander who did such a awful job feel better. yes you held the field of battle. but lets look at it
YOU HAD MORE SHIPs
we jumped in on you
you had drones out
you warped in more support and bs
we killed more bs and support
sorry our target calling is more effective than yours. but hey we engaged out numbered and knowing you had more coming. ofc we wouldnt try and hold the field after that kind of fight. hell guys most alliances would chalk that up as experience and realise when they got schooled. oh and btw about the tech 2. ge wiz if you guys arent using tech two now then you suck at making money. and i hate poor people in eve
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA HUNTING RUSSIANS ONE SAFESPOT AT A TIME |

Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:03:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Omeega on 22/09/2005 10:10:48
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii oh and to the rest of f-e your leaders are claiming victory to make the fleet commander who did such a awful job feel better. yes you held the field of battle. but lets look at it
YOU HAD MORE SHIPs
we jumped in on you
you had drones out
you warped in more support and bs
we killed more bs and support
sorry our target calling is more effective than yours. but hey we engaged out numbered and knowing you had more coming. ofc we wouldnt try and hold the field after that kind of fight. hell guys most alliances would chalk that up as experience and realise when they got schooled. oh and btw about the tech 2. ge wiz if you guys arent using tech two now then you suck at making money. and i hate poor people in eve
lol. go burn yourself ♥
I think you still didn't understand that 50% of the fun you get in this game comes from the people you fight. So try to respect them.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:31:00 -
[88]
Stizum:
1) Our FC did a good job of calling the targets 2) We held the field of battle, therefore we won that battle. No army has ever claimed they've won a war because they killed more people. 3) You ran (tactically withdrew I guess you would call it) away once you'd had enough. There were still more of us there, still people for you to "school". 4) Drones are fun \o/ - don't you use them? 5) The ATUK in local the other night said "gf" etc and there was no flaming - why all of a sudden has it turned into a flame fest? It was a good fight, and the only time I've seen ATUK not run from a bigger/equally sized fleet.
Keep bringing ships, we like shooting them - you drops good candys 
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Centuri
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:42:00 -
[89]
Guerilla warfare's strategic mission objectives rarely involve holding territory at the end of a battle. We jumped into you guys when we had equal numbers, we wtfbbq'd you guys even though you guys had all the advantages, then we got out. We killed ****LOADS more of you guys, not only did we kill more BS than we we had in our own gang, we killed ****loads of your support which was 10-15 strong when we virtually had no support. Our mission objevtives were to WTFPWN you guys, and we did that. Yours were to hold the battlefield after the battle, fair enough. Rationalise the loss how you will. 
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:51:00 -
[90]
Originally by: TheJay why all of a sudden has it turned into a flame fest?
This is the eve-o boards. Did you expect anything less than a catfight 
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.22 11:54:00 -
[91]
I didn't lose a thing, insurance covered more than I paid for my ship, and the stuff I picked up covered any module loss
Same goes for most of the bs's lost. Still, if you feel you won then I guess thats fine too 
What happened to your fleet last night? So full of promise and then you kind of... tactically ran away to shoot someone who wasn't going to put up a fight?
A typical ATUK day..
Log on Fit ship for gank/snipe Find a miner Shoot miner Compare the size of each others***** using wrecking shots as measurements Hang around a bit See opposing force gathering Log off
Rinse and repeat. Tuesday was a refreshing change from the usual 1 gank and then run and log.
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.09.22 12:17:00 -
[92]
TheJay, you post rubbish like that and you wondered why the thread turned into a flamefest?  -----------------------------
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.22 12:26:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Cloned Mark TheJay, you post rubbish like that and you wondered why the thread turned into a flamefest? 
I didn't start it.
Merely perpetuating it until the thread gets locked 
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FubarSF
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Posted - 2005.09.22 12:27:00 -
[94]
So I guess "killing ****" and "smacking ****" sums up what is happening in the north 
Gee, just like the South... who would of thunker  
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.09.22 12:36:00 -
[95]
hehe , it's commical seein fe trying to turn that fight into a win on their side, must have seen like 4-5 different angles at it now. Firs they thought they killed more ships, then they held the battlefield, then they got the loot, and then it's cus atuk used all t2 gear. WTF!!!
Jay u should just put ducktape over your mouth and sit down dude. We brought it to you, something you wouldn't even consider doing to us. And we killed more stuff then you. with a smaller group. How do you want us to paint that picture any clearer?
The thread had no smack in it, untill an fe guy stated that they "won" that fight. Which is seriously under debate imo. And yeah, ganking your miners is fun while the rest hides.
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.22 12:45:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Tholarim hehe , it's commical seein fe trying to turn that fight into a win on their side, must have seen like 4-5 different angles at it now. Firs they thought they killed more ships, then they held the battlefield, then they got the loot, and then it's cus atuk used all t2 gear. WTF!!!
Jay u should just put ducktape over your mouth and sit down dude. We brought it to you, something you wouldn't even consider doing to us. And we killed more stuff then you. with a smaller group. How do you want us to paint that picture any clearer?
The thread had no smack in it, untill an fe guy stated that they "won" that fight. Which is seriously under debate imo. And yeah, ganking your miners is fun while the rest hides.
We can't bring it to you, your base is a pos. Wouldn't make much sense.
Killing more stuff doesn't mean you won, please just accept that.
Nobody is hiding from ATUK, we've got fleets out to meet you every single time you've come here (since I've been living in Tribute) (Well there was that one time when 30 of you sat in local with bubbles)
Keep it coming Thol 
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.09.22 12:46:00 -
[97]
IMO, a win would be, stopping the enemy fufilling thier objectives while in your space. So, if ATUK were trying to take Tribute or whatever, then yes i think your could class it as a win (Only just though). But, it looks more like they wanna a kill a load of you, which it seems they were succesful in doing.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.09.22 12:48:00 -
[98]
If you cant be assed to read the book wait for it to come out on video . ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.22 12:48:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Darko1107 IMO, a win would be, stopping the enemy fufilling thier objectives while in your space. So, if ATUK were trying to take Tribute or whatever, then yes i think your could class it as a win (Only just though). But, it looks more like they wanna a kill a load of you, which it seems they were succesful in doing.
..and our objectives were to drive them off, which we succeeded in doing. So they killed lots, we killed some, they went away, end of.
I'm bored of arguing now, I need to go back to work 
Shall see you in space ATUK 
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FubarSF
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Posted - 2005.09.22 12:49:00 -
[100]
I was not implying that one group startes/does the smack .. I'm just amazed (well, not really) that EVERY thread in this forum turns into chaos.
But I guess trying to win an argument (flame war) on the forums is like winning a gold medal in the Special Olympics, the looser still thinks the winer is a retard .. and vis verca :p
ps I'm not in F-E just a small fish living in the Big Ocean that is 5's and BoB's 
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Maule
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Posted - 2005.09.22 13:34:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Maule on 22/09/2005 13:35:12
Originally by: TheJay I didn't lose a thing, insurance covered more than I paid for my ship, and the stuff I picked up covered any module loss
Same goes for most of the bs's lost. Still, if you feel you won then I guess thats fine too 
What happened to your fleet last night? So full of promise and then you kind of... tactically ran away to shoot someone who wasn't going to put up a fight?
A typical ATUK day..
Log on Fit ship for gank/snipe Find a miner Shoot miner Compare the size of each others***** using wrecking shots as measurements Hang around a bit See opposing force gathering Log off
Rinse and repeat. Tuesday was a refreshing change from the usual 1 gank and then run and log.
get a reality check plz.. you have no idear how atuk operates and the thing you said there is not the way we do it..
And saying that everytime you guys send a fleet equal to ours and we dont fight. well that depends on what ships we¦re in, its not like its rocket science is it ?
As for the fight.. you had an victory chasing us off the battlefield, and thats the only victory you had in that fight, Atuk¦s goal was just to kill you and they did it really good since you lost more bs than they had in the gang. and thats atuk¦s victory the way I see it..
And btw looking at the fraps it looks like you guys got pwned!
/me jumps back into being inactive so dont bother quoting me as I wont respond
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.22 14:19:00 -
[102]
LOL i cant believe what i have started, all i'm gonna say is i saw alot of Tempest losses in ATUK's fleet.
'Voltex is Primary Target' o.0 
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.22 14:23:00 -
[103]
Originally by: TheJay I didn't lose a thing, insurance covered more than I paid for my ship, and the stuff I picked up covered any module loss
Same goes for most of the bs's lost. Still, if you feel you won then I guess thats fine too 
What happened to your fleet last night? So full of promise and then you kind of... tactically ran away to shoot someone who wasn't going to put up a fight?
A typical ATUK day..
Log on Fit ship for gank/snipe Find a miner Shoot miner Compare the size of each others***** using wrecking shots as measurements Hang around a bit See opposing force gathering Log off
Rinse and repeat. Tuesday was a refreshing change from the usual 1 gank and then run and log.
I do feel that is a tad harsh m8  I didnt like ATUK much before rhe fight on tuesday night, But it was sooo much fun i have alot more respect for them - but i aint saying they dont do some of the stuff on your list 
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Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2005.09.22 14:27:00 -
[104]
Is it just me or does anyone else detect a little tension between ATUK and FE? You know the personal type?
Jhered Out!
   
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.09.22 14:37:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Jhered Stern Is it just me or does anyone else detect a little tension between ATUK and FE? You know the personal type?
'Tis just our natural reaction to forum asshats, something that ATUK is cursed with an overabundance of...  ____________________________________________
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Randorial
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Posted - 2005.09.22 14:43:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Randorial on 22/09/2005 14:47:41
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: Jhered Stern Is it just me or does anyone else detect a little tension between ATUK and FE? You know the personal type?
'Tis just our natural reaction to forum asshats, something that ATUK is cursed with an overabundance of... 
FE claimed victory before ATUK did. So to be fair the controverse started there.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.09.22 15:02:00 -
[107]
claiming victory when u lost more bs and had the bigger fleet before o.O
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.09.22 15:09:00 -
[108]
i respect my equals or superiors nothing less
most of you are less there for you get nothing STAN
FACTA NON VERBA HUNTING RUSSIANS ONE SAFESPOT AT A TIME |

Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2005.09.22 15:20:00 -
[109]
Ok here is the deal...I have no stake in this war and eons ago I served as a diplomat and arbitrator....I'm sort of wanting to get back into that. If you guys have a beef to settle I will arbitrate this case in court for you....rather then argue on the forums I will offer my services as arbitrator and hear both arguments. I suggest both sides hire a lawyer and and set a date to meet with me at the Emperors Acadamy in Amarr. We will get on one of the Huff Technologies TS and both sides can argue the case before an unbiased arbitrator (me) and we will settle this. I'll even cut both sides a special offer of 250,000 isk this one time.
Otherwise...quit arguing about this on the forums and just fight it out.
Jhered Out!
   
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2005.09.22 15:33:00 -
[110]
IÆm going to use our RA adversaryÆs phrase here.
Me donÆt speak smack. F1, F2, F3à
The truth will set you free
* Proud to be ATUK * |

Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.09.22 15:40:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: Jhered Stern Is it just me or does anyone else detect a little tension between ATUK and FE? You know the personal type?
'Tis just our natural reaction to forum asshats, something that ATUK is cursed with an overabundance of... 
Rich, considering the amount of crap coming from Millennium on this thread  -----------------------------
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Bruchpilot
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Posted - 2005.09.22 15:47:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Maule
Originally by: TheJay A typical ATUK day..
Log on Fit ship for gank/snipe Find a miner Shoot miner Compare the size of each others***** using wrecking shots as measurements Hang around a bit See opposing force gathering Log off
get a reality check plz.. you have no idear how atuk operates and the thing you said there is not the way we do it..
And saying that everytime you guys send a fleet equal to ours and we dont fight. well that depends on what ships we¦re in, its not like its rocket science is it ?
What he said is pretty much true. At least I thought the same when I was in GW. You come into the sys with a ganksquad, look for loners to gank and when a few more people log on you warp to a safe -> log off. In the evening a second blob is moving down to the system you logged off and collects you. You then sit there like ducks yapping in local. WIN!
btw. I remember being smacked in HED by a 5 ganksquad cause we didn't fight with 3 BS vs their 4 while they had 10+ support flying around (and we had none), it's no rocket science is it?
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.09.22 15:49:00 -
[113]
In my experience, CELES log in safespot. Then stay safespotted and then logoff.
If some lone miner comes to the safespot, they kill it. Then log off just in case.
Yep that about sums it up.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.09.22 15:52:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists claiming victory when u lost more bs and had the bigger fleet before o.O
TBH the way I see it (wasnt even there myself) F-E chased of the atuk, that was certainly the objective. They came to kill some of us, they succeded.
This seems to be a win for both, so everyone should just cut the crap and give me their iskies.
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Bruchpilot
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Posted - 2005.09.22 16:24:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Stormfront In my experience, CELES log in safespot. Then stay safespotted and then logoff.
If some lone miner comes to the safespot, they kill it. Then log off just in case.
Yep that about sums it up.
Never saw you in local. Made up oppinions?
You have a very high oppinion of yourself though, step back and look at facts.
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.09.22 16:30:00 -
[116]
mm ive always counted a win as most damage inflicted. I thought that was always the way back in SA v CA days the commanders would even get in a chat together and compare losses then decide who the einners were.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.09.22 16:31:00 -
[117]
Page 1.
Originally by: Harisdrop There will be those that run and hide. There will be those that fight and die.
What you choose to do is where you fit in.
PA is what PA will become. Game mechanics change and Alliance change with them. This is a game to all.
Politics aside lets get this party started!
-------------------------- Does it matter why, its when is more crucial!
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.09.22 16:46:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Darko1107 IMO, a win would be, stopping the enemy fufilling thier objectives while in your space. So, if ATUK were trying to take Tribute or whatever, then yes i think your could class it as a win (Only just though). But, it looks more like they wanna a kill a load of you, which it seems they were succesful in doing.
HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
DARKOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!1oneoneoneoexclamationexclamation!!1111
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Gaeth hEirennan
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Posted - 2005.09.22 17:06:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Imran
Originally by: Darko1107 IMO, a win would be, stopping the enemy fufilling thier objectives while in your space. So, if ATUK were trying to take Tribute or whatever, then yes i think your could class it as a win (Only just though). But, it looks more like they wanna a kill a load of you, which it seems they were succesful in doing.
HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
DARKOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!1oneoneoneoexclamationexclamation!!1111
OMG, I am Quoting Imran who was Quoting Darko who was Quoting ME when I was Quoting a portion of Modernized Warfare who was quoting a block from Art of War.
I am coming for both of you this weekend.
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.09.22 17:16:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Gaeth hEirennan
Originally by: Imran
Originally by: Darko1107 IMO, a win would be, stopping the enemy fufilling thier objectives while in your space. So, if ATUK were trying to take Tribute or whatever, then yes i think your could class it as a win (Only just though). But, it looks more like they wanna a kill a load of you, which it seems they were succesful in doing.
HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
DARKOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!1oneoneoneoexclamationexclamation!!1111
OMG, I am Quoting Imran who was Quoting Darko who was Quoting ME when I was Quoting a portion of Modernized Warfare who was quoting a block from Art of War.
I am coming for both of you this weekend.
omghi2ucuteypie 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.22 17:21:00 -
[121]
I think if there is this much debate over who won/lost that there must not be a clear victor. Maybe we can call it a tie and move on?
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Lord Gunstar
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Posted - 2005.09.22 18:40:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Lord Gunstar on 22/09/2005 18:42:15 Edited by: Lord Gunstar on 22/09/2005 18:40:25
"we F-E of course won!" "fighting a fleet have our size, and even though we lost more battleships and more support, we still win! fear not my F-E citizens!
    
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.09.22 19:05:00 -
[123]
We killed more bs than we HAD but bleh anyway, wait for the video :) ---------------
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.22 19:11:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Omeega on 22/09/2005 19:11:34
Originally by: Metal Dude IÆm going to use our RA adversaryÆs phrase here.
Me donÆt speak smack. F1, F2, F3à

Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.22 19:11:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Lord Gunstar
"we F-E of course won!" "fighting a fleet have our size, and even though we lost more battleships and more support, we still win! fear not my F-E citizens!
    
Ok fine, you won. you are OMFGTEHUBER1337!!!!1111.
Enjoy the victory and thanks for the loot. |

Gaeth hEirennan
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Posted - 2005.09.22 19:38:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Imran
omghi2ucuteypie 
I think Darko's 'Hooded Champion' has lost the will to fight.
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.09.22 20:48:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Gaeth hEirennan
Originally by: Imran
omghi2ucuteypie 
I think Darko's 'Hooded Champion' has lost the will to fight.
><
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.09.22 21:49:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Cloned Mark
Rich, considering the amount of crap coming from Millennium on this thread 
I see no crap from Millennium - I see ppl posting their opinions in a reasonable manner.
From ATUK, I see chest-beating l33ter-than-thou horse manure.
And a lone turdlet in the punchbowl from M. Corp. ____________________________________________
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Ishana
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Posted - 2005.09.22 22:02:00 -
[129]
It was a great fight. I had allot of fun as a tackler. Our FC did a great job. We got lots of nice loot. We all had loads of fun.
You thought it was a good fight. you killed some nice ships. you had fun.
Now the way I see it this is a game, and the only reason that I fight in these battles is to have fun with some exciting PvP. And by all accounts thats what I had, FUN! I think you guys had fun aswell, so can we now stop the flaming plz?
Fun was had by all, end of story. _________________________________________________________
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Fred0
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Posted - 2005.09.22 22:11:00 -
[130]
ASCN are invading Pure Blind between 5-10 times per day with 10-20 pilots for the last week or so, mostly smaller ships. They are always up for a scrap and are proving to have some of the most sporting non smacktalking pvp'ers in EVE.
I am honestly yet to see one word of smack after fighting them for a week now.
/me bows to ASCN
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.22 22:54:00 -
[131]
Vale of the Slient is now in Forsaken Empires hands!!!
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.22 23:17:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Voltex Vale of the Slient is now in Forsaken Empires hands!!!
I claim LS-JEP in the name of pizza and beer 
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.22 23:23:00 -
[133]
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: Voltex Vale of the Slient is now in Forsaken Empires hands!!!
I claim LS-JEP in the name of pizza and beer 

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nitr0s
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Posted - 2005.09.22 23:24:00 -
[134]
Edited by: nitr0s on 22/09/2005 23:23:59
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: Cloned Mark
Rich, considering the amount of crap coming from Millennium on this thread 
I see no crap from Millennium - I see ppl posting their opinions in a reasonable manner.
From ATUK, I see chest-beating l33ter-than-thou horse manure.
And a lone turdlet in the punchbowl from M. Corp.
Good god man. You above is just as bad as anything they said. Plus, how is this not smalktalking?
Originally by: TheJay I didn't lose a thing, insurance covered more than I paid for my ship, and the stuff I picked up covered any module loss
Same goes for most of the bs's lost. Still, if you feel you won then I guess thats fine too 
What happened to your fleet last night? So full of promise and then you kind of... tactically ran away to shoot someone who wasn't going to put up a fight?
A typical ATUK day..
Log on Fit ship for gank/snipe Find a miner Shoot miner Compare the size of each others***** using wrecking shots as measurements Hang around a bit See opposing force gathering Log off
Rinse and repeat. Tuesday was a refreshing change from the usual 1 gank and then run and log.
Last I checked he was in your corp.
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.23 06:21:00 -
[135]
I wasn't flaming. Merely giving an account of what I've seen ATUK do day in day out. Go away 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.23 06:49:00 -
[136]
Edited by: pershphanie on 23/09/2005 06:50:58
Originally by: Darko1107 IMO, a win would be, stopping the enemy fufilling thier objectives while in your space. So, if ATUK were trying to take Tribute or whatever, then yes i think your could class it as a win (Only just though). But, it looks more like they wanna a kill a load of you, which it seems they were succesful in doing.
*caugh*traitor*caugh*
Well our objective was to make them run back to empire. So everyone met there objectives and by your definition everyones a winner. Just like the special olymplics. There seems to be alot of special people in this thread so I think the description fits.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.09.23 08:32:00 -
[137]
Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 23/09/2005 06:50:58
Originally by: Darko1107 IMO, a win would be, stopping the enemy fufilling thier objectives while in your space. So, if ATUK were trying to take Tribute or whatever, then yes i think your could class it as a win (Only just though). But, it looks more like they wanna a kill a load of you, which it seems they were succesful in doing.
*caugh*traitor*caugh*
Well our objective was to make them run back to empire. So everyone met there objectives and by your definition everyones a winner. Just like the special olymplics. There seems to be alot of special people in this thread so I think the description fits.
Wait wait wait, we didnt come from empire, we came from venal and thats where we went back!
Allthough i suppose i did go to empire today to pickup a new Deimos, i knew 4 hacs and a bc taking on 5bs a hac and few frigs was a bad idea :/
Allthough i suppose a bs for a deimos is kinda worth it, mmmh, didnt fraps it tho, damn :(
Anyway i digress, if your objective was to make us run back to empire, you failed as we ran back to venal (ok maybe some trips to empire to get new ships as well ). However we also won because our objective was to have fun and kill stuff and we did
So yeah, your right if those were your objectives then we both won!
omg im agreeing with people, suppose its coz ive just woke up, bleh anyway im rambling.
. <-- stop of this discussion ---------------
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.23 08:50:00 -
[138]
This thread is class.
Only ex-pa could lose 13 Battleships to a force that didn't even HAVE 13 battleships and think they got a victory.

genius.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.23 09:47:00 -
[139]
Quote: Allthough i suppose a bs for a deimos is kinda worth it
I kept trying to argue the same point with the voices in my head, didn't work though 
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.23 10:56:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Voltex on 23/09/2005 10:55:56
Originally by: DB Preacher This thread is class.
Only ex-pa could lose 13 Battleships to a force that didn't even HAVE 13 battleships and think they got a victory.

genius.
dbp
Seems like everyone in this thread wanted to smack but me ( and this coming from a player who likes to smack )
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.09.23 11:04:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: Cloned Mark
Rich, considering the amount of crap coming from Millennium on this thread 
I see no crap from Millennium - I see ppl posting their opinions in a reasonable manner.
From ATUK, I see chest-beating l33ter-than-thou horse manure.
And a lone turdlet in the punchbowl from M. Corp.
You clearly have no conception of what smack is.
Originally by: TheJay I wasn't flaming. Merely giving an account of what I've seen ATUK do day in day out. Go away 
And neither do your members. -----------------------------
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.23 11:06:00 -
[142]
It's not smack if I'm presenting (mostly) fact and some lighthearted jabs.
Why does everything have to be so serious to Five members?
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Centuri
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Posted - 2005.09.23 11:11:00 -
[143]
Being pushed out of the north? Naaa. Do we have other concerns that require a distribution of forces? Maybe. You guys didn't push us out, we're leaving of our own accord. The first few days we were up there things were exciting, now you guys don't even try, the odd fleet battle like the other day where we were outnumbered and still we had to jump in. We came up north, jacked off abit in yer territory without much opposition, now we're gone. Hope to see you guys down south? Doubt it. 
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.23 11:12:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Cloned Mark
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: Cloned Mark
Rich, considering the amount of crap coming from Millennium on this thread 
I see no crap from Millennium - I see ppl posting their opinions in a reasonable manner.
From ATUK, I see chest-beating l33ter-than-thou horse manure.
And a lone turdlet in the punchbowl from M. Corp.
You clearly have no conception of what smack is.
Originally by: TheJay I wasn't flaming. Merely giving an account of what I've seen ATUK do day in day out. Go away 
And neither do your members.
Who said i was refering to those 2 quotes, the thread as a whole has been smack going from one direction to another, i never said it was ATUK who was smacking i including F-E in that also.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.09.23 11:14:00 -
[145]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii and i hate poor people in eve
What a friendly chap you are matey 
p - l - u - r |

TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.23 12:41:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Centuri Edited by: Centuri on 23/09/2005 11:13:38 Being pushed out of the north? Naaa. Do we have other concerns that require a distribution of forces? Maybe. You guys didn't push us out, we're leaving of our own accord. The first few days we were up there things were exciting, now you guys don't even try, the odd fleet battle like the other day where we were outnumbered and still we had to jump in. We came up north, jacked off abit in yer territory without much opposition, now we're gone. Hope to see you guys down south? Doubt it. 
Keep in mind that was only ATUK up there and a few Black Reign guys who wanted some fun. 
Leaving because the rest of Five kept badgering you to actually defend your territory?
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2005.09.23 13:08:00 -
[147]
Originally by: TheJay ............ Leaving because the rest of Five kept badgering you to actually defend your territory?
Look its the new and improved ANEU!!! 
How ya been? We have missed you so!! 
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Sharon Dai
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Posted - 2005.09.23 13:16:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Zzazzt
I see no crap from Millennium - I see ppl posting their opinions in a reasonable manner.
Originally by: TheJay
Leaving because the rest of Five kept badgering you to actually defend your territory?
oops 
 ----------------- CEO Omnicore Systems |

TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.23 13:48:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Sharon Dai
Originally by: Zzazzt
I see no crap from Millennium - I see ppl posting their opinions in a reasonable manner.
Originally by: TheJay
Leaving because the rest of Five kept badgering you to actually defend your territory?
oops 

That's not smack!
I'm presenting a rumour forward that I may or may not have heard from a Five member PLUS I know that if MLM suddenly buggered off to go shoot stuff on the other side of EVE, F-E would probably be quite annoyed.
So there, opinion in a reasonable manner without claiming that someones alliance is dead, claiming I have all the spoons, claiming that I've slept with your mother or that perhaps your mother and father had you out of wedlock.
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.09.23 13:50:00 -
[150]
Originally by: TheJay It's not smack if I'm presenting (mostly) fact and some lighthearted jabs.
Why does everything have to be so serious to Five members?
Heh, I'm not taking smack seriously, as smack is usually funny most of the time.
But saying a corp only shoots miners, just ganking and sniping, and logging off when an opposing force comes is not fact, its smack. -----------------------------
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.23 14:01:00 -
[151]
Edited by: TheJay on 23/09/2005 14:01:56 Edited by: TheJay on 23/09/2005 14:00:58 I never said only 
I said they had done it. Theres been more than one occasion where they've ganked one ship and then wandered off to shoot PA, which is fair enough. Theres been other occasions where they've stuck around to fight us. Theres been times where we haven't put up a fleet because it was late at night/everyone was eating/the sun was in our eyes or whatever reason, and ATUK have been pretty much allowed to roam free.
The alliance is becoming more and more organised now, so hopefully we'll be able to see off invading fleets with more panache.
I do <3 some ATUK members, had some funny convos in local and some good fights, but there are (as with every corp I guess) people who let the side down.
Edit: Missed a word out \o/
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.09.23 14:03:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Cloned Mark
Originally by: TheJay It's not smack if I'm presenting (mostly) fact and some lighthearted jabs.
Why does everything have to be so serious to Five members?
Heh, I'm not taking smack seriously, as smack is usually funny most of the time.
But saying a corp only shoots miners, just ganking and sniping, and logging off when an opposing force comes is not fact, its smack.
Well it can be smack or fact. Or mix of both. :)
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Monarch
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Posted - 2005.09.23 15:53:00 -
[153]
Tuesday was much fun I like to thank ATUK for letting meh fly with them. Funny enough how on Monday night I was alone in local and you all tuned on the T2 Smack.
Little mathà we started out outnumbered by a couple of battleships and a lot of support all through the fight witch lasted about 5 minutes (sadly it felt like 5 seconds) there was a steady stream of warp ins from the station and the gate to our backs (WH?) kept going of. The side I was on lost 8 BS and 2 survived. You guys lost 13 bs and still as quoted from before had 7 remaining in the field of battle not to mention support. In the end itÆs clear to see that our side was outnumbered 2-1 in BS alone.
So ATUK.
1.saw a larger fleet 2.jumped into it (you guys had drones out to worsen the lag) 3.fought to the death inflicting more damage to the larger fleet
And yet we have Theghey talking about how they only log in and gank miners.
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.09.23 16:20:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Monarch
2.jumped into it (you guys had drones out to worsen the lag)
Hope u aint suggesting we did that on purpose to make it laggy
Originally by: Monarch
And yet we have Theghey talking about how they only log in and gank miners.
Only one pilot said that u ganked miners
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.09.23 17:28:00 -
[155]
/me bows to Atuk's superiority,
Face it guys, NOBODY in this game can handle their greatness. We should give them Vale and Tribute, get 25% refining taxes installed and THANK them for letting us mine.
Now where do I kneel?
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.09.23 17:44:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Ras Blumin on 23/09/2005 17:45:02
Originally by: Monarch Tuesday was much fun I like to thank ATUK for letting meh fly with them. Funny enough how on Monday night I was alone in local and you all tuned on the T2 Smack.
Local was actually pretty friendly until you started hinting we would dishonor an arranged 1on1.
Edit - and it's TheHomosexual, get it right!
p - l - u - r |

Nuclear Option
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Posted - 2005.09.23 18:26:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Nuclear Option on 23/09/2005 18:26:52
Originally by: Voltex
Originally by: Monarch
2.jumped into it (you guys had drones out to worsen the lag)
Hope u aint suggesting we did that on purpose to make it laggy
ROFL, you gotta be kidding. There aint no purpose in having drones deployed prior to the fight comensing other than to cause lag. If you think otherwise and you FC does, you are nubs.
Had to add: BUHAHAHAHAHAHAH@millinium
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Aegis Osiris
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Posted - 2005.09.23 18:35:00 -
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Who do you think would do such a think nuc?
This thread's smack level is silly, from all sides.
Atuk jumped into a larger fleet and inflicted more numerical losses.
FE held the field at the end and inflicted more economic losses (ie. recovery and salvage).
Both sides had fun, and got to shoot stuff 
Where's the complaint? What, exactly, are you arguing about? Good grief, let it go!
You want to hear a complaint? FINE, here's one!! All you [5] folks need to move outa Europe and over to the US, cause all these damn battles happen when I'm at work!!!!  
Now THERE is a complaint!! 
(quietly takes his medication and pulls on his hotpants...)
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.09.23 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Hast on 23/09/2005 18:43:38
Originally by: TheJay It's not smack if I'm presenting (mostly) fact and some lighthearted jabs.
Why does everything have to be so serious to Five members?
so when we reply or post its flames and smack but when you post its lighthearted banter?
1/10 (copyright Omeega)
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.09.23 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Hast Edited by: Hast on 23/09/2005 18:43:38
Originally by: TheJay It's not smack if I'm presenting (mostly) fact and some lighthearted jabs.
Why does everything have to be so serious to Five members?
so when we reply or post its flames and smack but when you post its lighthearted banter?
1/10 (copyright Omeega)
Yes 
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thelung187
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Posted - 2005.09.23 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Now where do I kneel?
Right where you always do Sugar Lips, assume the position.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |

Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.23 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: NAFnist
Originally by: Hast Edited by: Hast on 23/09/2005 18:43:38
Originally by: TheJay It's not smack if I'm presenting (mostly) fact and some lighthearted jabs.
Why does everything have to be so serious to Five members?
so when we reply or post its flames and smack but when you post its lighthearted banter?
1/10 (copyright Omeega)
Yes 
thank you so much for the « Hast. I♥U
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Monarch
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Posted - 2005.09.23 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ras Blumin Edited by: Ras Blumin on 23/09/2005 17:45:02
Originally by: Monarch Tuesday was much fun I like to thank ATUK for letting meh fly with them. Funny enough how on Monday night I was alone in local and you all tuned on the T2 Smack.
Local was actually pretty friendly until you started hinting we would dishonor an arranged 1on1.
Edit - and it's TheHomosexual, get it right!
Why would I assume you would? and all I said was "I tend to shy away from arranged 1v1 outnumbered 16-1 in a system."
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.09.23 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Monarch
Why would I assume you would? and all I said was "I tend to shy away from arranged 1v1 outnumbered 16-1 in a system."
15-1 according to my log :P
Originally by: Monarch [ 2005.09.19 03:16:38 ] Monarch > FE is honorable... [ 2005.09.19 03:17:21 ] Monarch > LOL
Ok, ok, that was after Harper04 started acting silly (and possibly taken out of context)..
you still suck tho >_<
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2005.09.23 23:21:00 -
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The day people will start to concede to opponents that an advantage in a battle is always desirable,it will be the day that smack will finally start to die.Enough of this "you only fight when you outnumber us,you never fight when we outnumber you,you fit too much stabbies,i only fit stabbies because you have too many frigates,yada yada yada" double standard nonsense.
Newsflash,EVERYONE does whatever it takes to win a fight,as long as it's not an exploit. FFS,it's a fight,not a victorian era duel. How boring would that be? I detest all this long range sniping sh*t where fleets warp in,someone calls targets and they all shoot the same thing until it goes pop. It's effective,it's sometimes the only way to go if you're small in numbers,and yes,it's boring as hell.
It reminds me of napoleonic war battles,where huge armies march into each other,shoot and reload without taking cover from the enemy rifle and artillery fire,because it is considered lack of courage and a dishonorable thing to do so. See any similarities?It's completely retarded,but since everyone does it you sometimes have no option but to fight this way to have a chance as well.
I distinctly remember a case were we jumped around 10 hacs and a similar number of frigs into an atuk trap in curse. They knew we were coming,they had battleships (probably fitted to the brim with nos and neutralisers) and guess what?They had drones out. Lag was not that bad,we didn't decloack anyway until we could decide what to do next. Nobody complained,because nos and drones is one of the best recipes against hacs,and these guys obviously wanted to kill us and win the fight. It was the sensible thing to do in order to gain an advantage.
So everyone chill and realise that people want to win fights,and not provide entertainment for their opponents at the cost of their gametime.In the end,this is what it all boils down to. It's not the ship loss per se,it's the amount of time one needs to replace it that forces people to choose tactics that favor survival over the die with all guns blazing approach.
Gametime = real life money after all. I pay to be entertained,not provide anyone else with fun,and as long as i don't exploit game mechanics or grief people there's nothing anyone can do about it.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.09.24 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 24/09/2005 10:18:37 In my opinion, and in that of Real life history, F-E were the winners of that fight.
Firstly, ATUK enter their space, fe get a fleet, in their home space, (where everyone claims that attackers should expect to be outnumbered, even [5] said that) f-e and atuk fleet fight, atuk manage to kill more ships but for the most part are destroyed and unable to continue attack. F-E hold the battlefield, and get all the lubally jubbally loot.
F-E didnt have a majority of their fleet annihilated.
Now, lets go to r/l history. Did napolean conquer most of europe by running away? No, he smashed armies 3 times the size of his, through good tactics.
Did caeser conquer the west by retreating? ohh...no he didnt.
I rest my case. Ive been watching this thread during my bannage and atuk are acting like complete fools im sorry to say, but its what everyone has come to expect i guess, so i shouldnt be making comments on that.
blah blah blah i wasnt there people will say, i was on f-e ts listening to a great fight. ATUKs shortcoming in the battle is made up by forum trolling. Why cant people just be civil and say GF?
I may have been a bit late with my reply, but i only just managed to post again 
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Ugluuk
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Posted - 2005.09.24 11:09:00 -
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Cant believe an alliance is so proud to kick 1 corp out of their own space after loosing numberwise in the fight..
Must have felt good or what!!
Remember that F-E dont always fight alone when they claim to win the fight..
They call for their pets in NBSI everytime it`s close to equal numbers and they are pretty much 75% of the force when it comes to skills..
F-E, your time will come..Sooner than expected.. http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/ http://bydi.digilo.net/evekill/
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.09.24 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: thelung187
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Now where do I kneel?
Right where you always do Sugar Lips, assume the position.
You are the most uncivilised individual that I have had the misfortune of sharing a virtual world with. What a waste of oxygen.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.24 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ugluuk Cant believe an alliance is so proud to kick 1 corp out of their own space after loosing numberwise in the fight..
Must have felt good or what!!
Remember that F-E dont always fight alone when they claim to win the fight..
They call for their pets in NBSI everytime it`s close to equal numbers and they are pretty much 75% of the force when it comes to skills..
F-E, your time will come..Sooner than expected..
.. and ATUK call their pets (KOS and BYDI) when they need help too? 
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.09.24 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: Ugluuk Cant believe an alliance is so proud to kick 1 corp out of their own space after loosing numberwise in the fight..
Must have felt good or what!!
Remember that F-E dont always fight alone when they claim to win the fight..
They call for their pets in NBSI everytime it`s close to equal numbers and they are pretty much 75% of the force when it comes to skills..
F-E, your time will come..Sooner than expected..
.. and ATUK call their pets (KOS and BYDI) when they need help too? 
thats a good point jay! im sure atuk will reply soon in response to that intelligent question.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.09.24 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: Ugluuk Cant believe an alliance is so proud to kick 1 corp out of their own space after loosing numberwise in the fight..
Must have felt good or what!!
Remember that F-E dont always fight alone when they claim to win the fight..
They call for their pets in NBSI everytime it`s close to equal numbers and they are pretty much 75% of the force when it comes to skills..
F-E, your time will come..Sooner than expected..
.. and ATUK call their pets (KOS and BYDI) when they need help too? 
thats a good point jay! im sure atuk will reply soon in response to that intelligent question.
dude, why don't you give up, no1 cares about you, nor about your insignificant corp. Go cry somehwere else, cus you seem to hold a bit of a grudge after being kicked from atuk so long ago allready.
We don't need any other corps to help us fight FE. And if we do, they'll be part of [5]. Now max, go make an idiot of yourself somewhere else dude. Cus we had our laughs already.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.09.24 14:49:00 -
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of course, im still so angry i got booted over a year ago, i havent had fun in this game since.

Wrong.
Your lame forum tardness is worse than any other corp, thats what gets on my ****.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.09.24 15:20:00 -
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To the view of a third party, me, you both won that fight. That is because FE got to hold the battlefield and therefor achieved their goal plus were able to collect the loot, while ATUK achieved a better kill ratio and hence achieved their goal.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.09.24 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide of course, im still so angry i got booted over a year ago, i havent had fun in this game since.

Wrong.
Your lame forum tardness is worse than any other corp, thats what gets on my ****.
You lecturing other ppl about forum tardness. hypocrisy ftw.
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2005.09.24 16:05:00 -
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Hmm, with twice the size of our fleet taking twice the amount of losses sure sounds like a win to me. Good job FE. You are the best. Till next time. 
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Ugluuk
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Posted - 2005.09.24 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: Ugluuk Cant believe an alliance is so proud to kick 1 corp out of their own space after loosing numberwise in the fight..
Must have felt good or what!!
Remember that F-E dont always fight alone when they claim to win the fight..
They call for their pets in NBSI everytime it`s close to equal numbers and they are pretty much 75% of the force when it comes to skills..
F-E, your time will come..Sooner than expected..
.. and ATUK call their pets (KOS and BYDI) when they need help too? 
We are not involved with the 5 and from what i see, ATUK dont need much help..
If they did BYDI aint the first corp they would call for as we have no history with them..You should now that Jay, you once were among the elite..
But everyone is allowed to take a step back in their career like you did.. http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/ http://bydi.digilo.net/evekill/
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.09.24 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: MAXSuicide of course, im still so angry i got booted over a year ago, i havent had fun in this game since.

Wrong.
Your lame forum tardness is worse than any other corp, thats what gets on my ****.
hypocrisy ftw.
something your no stranger to either.
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Sergon100
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Posted - 2005.09.24 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii i respect my equals or superiors nothing less
most of you are less there for you get nothing
Whats the point of getting respect from a smacktalker?
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Nuclear Option
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Posted - 2005.09.24 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: Ugluuk Cant believe an alliance is so proud to kick 1 corp out of their own space after loosing numberwise in the fight..
Must have felt good or what!!
Remember that F-E dont always fight alone when they claim to win the fight..
They call for their pets in NBSI everytime it`s close to equal numbers and they are pretty much 75% of the force when it comes to skills..
F-E, your time will come..Sooner than expected..
.. and ATUK call their pets (KOS and BYDI) when they need help too? 
thats a good point jay! im sure atuk will reply soon in response to that intelligent question.
Thought you did us all a favor and quit? Or was that only to get attention that day?
Pathetic little child...
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.24 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Nuclear Option
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: Ugluuk Cant believe an alliance is so proud to kick 1 corp out of their own space after loosing numberwise in the fight..
Must have felt good or what!!
Remember that F-E dont always fight alone when they claim to win the fight..
They call for their pets in NBSI everytime it`s close to equal numbers and they are pretty much 75% of the force when it comes to skills..
F-E, your time will come..Sooner than expected..
.. and ATUK call their pets (KOS and BYDI) when they need help too? 
thats a good point jay! im sure atuk will reply soon in response to that intelligent question.
Thought you did us all a favor and quit? Or was that only to get attention that day?
Pathetic little child...
Hey tard! Keep concentrating on Russians and leave max alone!
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2005.09.24 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 24/09/2005 21:01:24 meh gutted i missed the fight to be honest.
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Ishana
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Posted - 2005.09.24 22:22:00 -
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Wow I can't believe this thread isn't locked yet...
And I'm really suprised that some people aren't perma banned from these forums for continues trolling and flaming on every other thread...  _________________________________________________________
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.09.24 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ishana Wow I can't believe this thread isn't locked yet...
And I'm really suprised that some people aren't perma banned from these forums for continues trolling and flaming on every other thread... 
Next time let us know about threads that slip under the Radar by mailing [email protected].
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