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RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 3172	Posted - 2013.04.12 21:11:00 - [61] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Dave Stark wrote: i think people underestimate some of the null sec candidates. TBH I like a few of the NULL SEC candidates... but I do feel like the system's rigged like the old Chicago political manchine where I see some carpet bagger Alderman representing my district in Southside Projects yet he lives in Barrington Hills. How is it rigged? One account, one vote. It's even totally anonymous, with no possibility of confirming who someone voted for (the receipt page doesn't mention who you voted for, just that you did vote), so bribery or intimidation aren't particularly useful. Oh, right. "The people I don't like are able to gather more votes than the people I do like" means the election is rigged. Forgot about that. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon
Drunken Bum School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 77	Posted - 2013.04.12 21:16:00 - [62] - Quote video game drama! dun dun dun.... I voted for floppy. So you can shut your mouth Darthwhinesalot
Varius Xeral Galactic Trade Syndicate 697	Posted - 2013.04.12 21:22:00 - [63] - Quote Sorry about your hisec, bro. This is the year we take it all, so enjoy it while you can. I suggest arranging for your future nullsec serfdom now, as the terms will be a lot worse when the hammer falls and the mass exodus of carebears from the wastelands of nerfed hisec begins.
Frying Doom 2311	Posted - 2013.04.12 23:36:00 - [64] - Quote Zhade Lezte wrote: Also the best way to stick it to the ~nullbears~ is to vote for Frying Doom's list, which totally doesn't have the five wormhole bloc candidates on top Look It is a well known fact that all those people not on my list are mentally unstable. Or are you going to tell me that Riverini is a great CSM candidate? So just vote the list. They are great. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2311	Posted - 2013.04.12 23:40:00 - [65] - Quote Varius Xeral wrote: Sorry about your hisec, bro. This is the year we take it all, so enjoy it while you can. I suggest arranging for your future nullsec serfdom now, as the terms will be a lot worse when the hammer falls and the mass exodus of carebears from the wastelands of nerfed hisec begins. They have no one to blame but them selves. Fancy supporting Null Sec overlords, then bitching about the result. If only they had followed my voting suggestions, Hi-sec would not get Nuked. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Katran Luftschreck Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps 1337	Posted - 2013.04.13 06:10:00 - [66] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: [How is it rigged? Bots -> RMT -> Bribery. Next? Live Events are neither.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 3178	Posted - 2013.04.13 06:24:00 - [67] - Quote Katran Luftschreck wrote: RubyPorto wrote: [How is it rigged? Bots -> RMT -> Bribery. Next? RubyPorto wrote: It's even totally anonymous, with no possibility of confirming who someone voted for (the receipt page doesn't mention who you voted for, just that you did vote), so *bribery* or intimidation aren't particularly useful. The whole post matters. Also, this. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 879	Posted - 2013.04.13 07:23:00 - [68] - Quote Drunken Bum wrote: video game drama! dun dun dun.... I voted for floppy. So you can shut your mouth Darthwhinesalot Actually I put floppy on my 14 slate over any big NULL BLOCK candidate because I think gankers too deserve a CSM representative Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 slot 1, Mike Azariah slot 2 Disclaimer: CCP Bias is a fictional character. In case that some CCP Bias does exist,-áis he an "ex"-Goon?
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 879	Posted - 2013.04.13 08:56:00 - [69] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Frying Doom wrote: We need a badge for the forums for people who don't vote, so we can get a year telling them "STFU, this is your fault. You didn't vote" this! Second Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 slot 1, Mike Azariah slot 2 Disclaimer: CCP Bias is a fictional character. In case that some CCP Bias does exist,-áis he an "ex"-Goon?
Lord Zim 2362	Posted - 2013.04.13 09:10:00 - [70] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: but I do feel like the system's rigged Remember when we told CCP that changing the system to a STV system wouldn't end well, or make it any harder to game? Yeah, about that... Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Casoff 995	Posted - 2013.04.13 09:18:00 - [71] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Katran Luftschreck wrote: RubyPorto wrote: [How is it rigged? Bots -> RMT -> Bribery. Next? RubyPorto wrote: It's even totally anonymous, with no possibility of confirming who someone voted for (the receipt page doesn't mention who you voted for, just that you did vote), so *bribery* or intimidation aren't particularly useful. The whole post matters. Also, this. i don't think katan's post was even worth your effort
El 1974 Green Visstick High Green Rhino 82	Posted - 2013.04.13 09:52:00 - [72] - Quote The last CSM had the most horrible ideas written down in some document they supported unanimously. Luckily CCP so far has ignored them. Right now when the CSM claims to represent the playerbase, they are making themselves look even more stupid as only a vast minority of players vote. I am proud to be a member of the non-voting majority.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 8643	Posted - 2013.04.13 09:58:00 - [73] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: Dave Stark wrote: i think people underestimate some of the null sec candidates. TBH I like a few of the NULL SEC candidates... but I do feel like the system's rigged like the old Chicago political manchine where I see some carpet bagger Alderman representing my district in Southside Projects yet he lives in Barrington Hills. How is it rigged? One account, one vote. It's even totally anonymous, with no possibility of confirming who someone voted for (the receipt page doesn't mention who you voted for, just that you did vote), so bribery or intimidation aren't particularly useful. Oh, right. "The people I don't like are able to gather more votes than the people I do like" means the election is rigged. Forgot about that. The CSM election is rigged in favour of people who vote. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere My recommended voting list
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 8643	Posted - 2013.04.13 09:59:00 - [74] - Quote El 1974 wrote: The last CSM had the most horrible ideas written down in some document they supported unanimously. Luckily CCP so far has ignored them. Right now when the CSM claims to represent the playerbase, they are making themselves look even more stupid as only a vast minority of players vote. I am proud to be a member of the non-voting majority. Way to step up and avoid taking any responsibility there. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere My recommended voting list
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 3178	Posted - 2013.04.13 10:04:00 - [75] - Quote Malcanis wrote: The CSM election is rigged in favour of people who vote. Dangnabbit. You and your sense. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon
Lord Zim 2363	Posted - 2013.04.13 10:04:00 - [76] - Quote El 1974 wrote: The last CSM had the most horrible ideas written down in some document they supported unanimously. Which ideas were these? Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 8643	Posted - 2013.04.13 10:08:00 - [77] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Dave Stark wrote: i think people underestimate some of the null sec candidates. TBH I like a few of the NULL SEC candidates... but I do feel like the system's rigged like the old Chicago political manchine where I see some carpet bagger Alderman representing my district in Southside Projects yet he lives in Barrington Hills. The STV system is ridiculously fair. The old system was less fair in that it gave low voting demographics a better chance for a representative; the old system gave those who voted for the highest place candidate 1/10000th of a result for their vote, where those who voted for the lowest placed got 1/1600th of a result per vote - their vote was over five times more "valuable". Now those demographics will have their individual vote valued equally to anyone else's, and that means they'll have to stop whining on the forums for 60 seconds and actually VOTE if they want CSM representation. That means no more relying on a couple of popular null candidates soaking up enough bloc votes to allow a couple of hi-sec dudes to slip in with 1600 or 1700 votes each. Now everyone is going to need 4000 or 5000 votes each. I realise that this is a horrible crushing tyrranical burden to impose on people who take zero interest in 90% the game for most of the year, don't bother voting, but then greatly enjoy bawwing about how the CSM is "rigged" in favour of null, but there it is, the world we have to live in. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere My recommended voting list
Ai Shun 926	Posted - 2013.04.13 10:27:00 - [78] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: And you expect yelling at the people who already read the forums is going to improve voter turnout, why? Have you seen the number of posters that say: "I don't want to vote for null-sec so I won't vote" or "I don't believe in the system so I won't vote - but give me WiS/FW/POS/PI/whatever or EVE will die" or something fairly similar? They don't understand how voting works Of course, this comment probably means I don't understand how their apathy / lack of interest works.
Frying Doom 2317	Posted - 2013.04.13 10:35:00 - [79] - Quote Ai Shun wrote: RubyPorto wrote: And you expect yelling at the people who already read the forums is going to improve voter turnout, why? Have you seen the number of posters that say: "I don't want to vote for null-sec so I won't vote" or "I don't believe in the system so I won't vote - but give me WiS/FW/POS/PI/whatever or EVE will die" or something fairly similar? They don't understand how voting works Of course, this comment probably means I don't understand how their apathy / lack of interest works. Voter apathy is easy to understand. First say eh Then don't vote Next spend 12 months complaining that eve is changing in a way you don't like And threaten to unsub at every possible chance. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Roime Shiva Furnace 2523	Posted - 2013.04.13 11:23:00 - [80] - Quote I liked a DarthNefarius post (he's spot on with this one) -á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars -
El 1974 Green Visstick High Green Rhino 82	Posted - 2013.04.13 12:08:00 - [81] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: El 1974 wrote: The last CSM had the most horrible ideas written down in some document they supported unanimously. Which ideas were these? There was a lengthy discussion thread about it on these forums. I can't be arsed to look it up. Lets put it this way: what's there to choose when the entire CSM puts down their ideas into a single document and unanimously supports it. I haven't seen any of of the current candidates clearly distantiate themselves from this document either.
Roime Shiva Furnace 2523	Posted - 2013.04.13 12:12:00 - [82] - Quote What were the ideas? -á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars -
Frying Doom 2317	Posted - 2013.04.13 12:24:00 - [83] - Quote Roime wrote: What were the ideas? I believe he is talking about this document http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1211/EVE_Online_Development_Strategy_%28CSM_Public%29.pdf Which were only ideas for how to release an expansion, not the ideas within it. They stated very clearly that these were just examples when they were taking flak. Well until CCP decided to do some work on POSs then the ideas were no longer examples apparently. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
August Sinclair Sinclair Solutions 0	Posted - 2013.04.13 12:32:00 - [84] - Quote Why do a bunch of robots need repesentation?
Dave Stark 2556	Posted - 2013.04.13 12:34:00 - [85] - Quote August Sinclair wrote: Why do a bunch of robots need repesentation? robots have rights too!
Frying Doom 2317	Posted - 2013.04.13 12:35:00 - [86] - Quote August Sinclair wrote: Why do a bunch of robots need repesentation? So they can get the game changed to favor them and punish the meat bags. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.

ISD Cyberdyne ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1261	Posted - 2013.04.13 13:46:00 - [87] - Quote Quote: 31. Rumor mongering is prohibited. Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the wellbeing and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators. Please adhere to the forum rules. Thank you. ISD Cyberdyne Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Felicity Love STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate 431	Posted - 2013.04.13 13:59:00 - [88] - Quote Let's face it, large blocks of well-organized (credit where credit is due) electorates will always win the day, no matter what "hocus-pocus" system is used to count votes, massage the numbers, and allocate "seats". All we need now is an adult movie star to run for the CSM next time. Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies"
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 882	Posted - 2013.04.13 16:10:00 - [89] - Quote August Sinclair wrote: Why do a bunch of robots need repesentation? I don't know why but the NULL bots will probably have it come CSM8 Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 slot 1, Mike Azariah slot 2 Disclaimer: CCP Bias is a fictional character. In case that some CCP Bias does exist,-áis he an "ex"-Goon?
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 8649	Posted - 2013.04.13 18:08:00 - [90] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: August Sinclair wrote: Why do a bunch of robots need repesentation? I don't know why but the NULL bots will probably have it come CSM8 At least the "robots" of null have the programming to go vote for their interests Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere My recommended voting list

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