This is the last weekend of the CSM8 elections if you don't vote you are effectively the reason those that did vote will have more say then you did will. With the way game mechanics forces those in NULL to have to organize to survive means they'll have an overwelming organizational advatage even though the majority of Eve does live in HI SEC, then NULL then LO SEC then WH's ( I'm not sure but WH population may be overtaking lo soon if things continue) .

Voter apathy is part & parcel to the game mainly due to mechanics which naturally fragment the largest populations of EVE but still it doesn't have to mean CSM's votes have to only garner >20% of the electorate to vote. Do yourself a favor & vote even if its only for 1 or 2 slots & not the whole 14 slate.

That soapbox you're standing on looks pretty worn out and ragged, fyi

This is the last weekend of the CSM8 elections if you don't vote you are effectively the reason those that did vote will have more say then you did will. With the way game mechanics forces those in NULL to have to organize to survive means they'll have an overwelming organizational advatage even though the majority of Eve does live in HI SEC, then NULL then LO SEC then WH's ( I'm not sure but WH population may be overtaking lo soon if trends continue, guess we'll see what Dr E says @ Fanfest if the demographics are still the same or WH's have overtaken lo population after the FW nerf) .

Voter apathy is part & parcel to the game mainly due to mechanics which naturally fragment the largest populations of EVE but still it doesn't have to mean CSM's votes have to only garner >20% of the electorate to vote. Do yourself a favor & vote even if its only for 1 or 2 slots & not the whole 14 slate.

And you expect yelling at the people who already read the forums is going to improve voter turnout, why?

And that's bad because CCP blindly follows through with whatever the CSM proposes, no matter how one sided, biased and imbalanced it may be.

This is the last weekend of the CSM8 elections if you don't vote you are effectively the reason those that did vote will have more say then you did will. With the way game mechanics forces those in NULL to have to organize to survive means they'll have an overwelming organizational advatage even though the majority of Eve does live in HI SEC, then NULL then LO SEC then WH's ( I'm not sure but WH population may be overtaking lo soon if trends continue, guess we'll see what Dr E says @ Fanfest if the demographics are still the same or WH's have overtaken lo population after the FW nerf) .

Voter apathy is part & parcel to the game mainly due to mechanics which naturally fragment the largest populations of EVE but still it doesn't have to mean CSM's votes have to only garner <20% of the electorate to vote. Do yourself a favor & vote even if its only for 1 or 2 slots & not the whole 14 slate.

Null needs representation at the moment. I don't live there and even I can see that. Hell I'm a "carebear" and I can see that.

Because he's BATMAN !

NULL has had overwelming representation the past 3 CSM's.... why's it now different then the last 3 years? It sure didn't save us from Incarna

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The CSM not being able to stop something that was not disclosed to them is evidence of... what, exactly?

While I agree with your general premise, not voting is voting for null, I disagree with your statement that GÇ£the majority of EVE lives in highsecGÇ¥.
I know this has been bandied around this forum for a long time, but I just donGÇÖt see it. Sure, I think the majority of characters are in hi sec. but given what I see in my own corp and from the people I talk to here, a huge percentage of the characters in hi sec are null and lowsec alts.

I have 5 chars across 2 accounts. 2 of them are in Null in TRIBE. The rest are in high sec. Does that make me a highsec player even tho both my mains live in null?

This is the last weekend of the CSM8 elections if you don't vote you are effectively the reason those that did vote will have more say then you did will. With the way game mechanics forces those in NULL to have to organize to survive means they'll have an overwelming organizational advatage even though the majority of Eve does live in HI SEC, then NULL then LO SEC then WH's ( I'm not sure but WH population may be overtaking lo soon if trends continue, guess we'll see what Dr E says @ Fanfest if the demographics are still the same or WH's have overtaken lo population after the FW nerf) .

Voter apathy is part & parcel to the game mainly due to mechanics which naturally fragment the largest populations of EVE but still it doesn't have to mean CSM's votes have to only garner <20% of the electorate to vote. Do yourself a favor & vote even if its only for 1 or 2 slots & not the whole 14 slate.

Darth is absolutely correct. Whenever you read a post from someone trying to persaude you not to vote, as yourself:

Who benefits if you don't vote?

NULL has had overwelming representation the past 3 CSM's.... why's it now different then the last 3 years ( or does NULL need more representation every moment?) ? It sure didn't save us from Incarna

Darth is absolutely correct. Whenever you read a post from someone trying to persaude you not to vote, as yourself:

Who benefits if you don't vote?

You'd be better off spamming local in Empire than yet another thread telling people to vote. It's all the carebears that don't even visit the forum that you should be looking to convince.

I'm batman :D... It was not disclosed???? & you got that from which NDA breaker

part of me hopes they don't vote. have you noticed most of the dumb ideas that pop up on the forums are from high sec players and/or npc alts?

not that null sec players don't occasionally come up with stupid ideas, but not so nearly as frequently as high sec players.

Last I checked, CSM 5 was the one that made us go "hey, wait a minute, this is bullshit" and get involved, because that CSM was making recommendations for changes which were made from ignorance on how nullsec works, and which were actively detrimental to nullsec.