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Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
445
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Posted - 2013.04.14 16:15:00 -
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Out of the 4 available the Caldari and Minmatar are disqualified for having bonuses to weapon systems since the one I'll be flying won't be armed.
That leaves the Anathema and Helios. The Anathema has an odd bonus to capacitor. I'm not sure how useful this bonus actually is. The Helios on the other has a drone bonus and I'm not sure how I feel about that. In case of rogue drones ambush maybe? The ship can't tank at all so I'm not sure how useful the drones will be. We miss you Saede. |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1297
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Posted - 2013.04.14 16:47:00 -
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It really depends on what you want to do with it.
Pure scouting, it probably doesnt matter.
For WH space i personally prefer the Helios. That one drone may not seem like much, but you actually can kill T1 haulers running their PI, or scan alts flying in T1 scan frigs etc. I prefer the drone to a local gun as it gives me more range choices
If you want additional high slot options, such as a salvager, or cyno, along with a probe launcher, then the helios falls short. |

Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
116
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Posted - 2013.04.14 16:49:00 -
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Last time I checked they all had combat bonuses... |

Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
445
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Posted - 2013.04.14 16:50:00 -
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A salvager would be great.
The main purpose is gravimetric scanning but also defensive scanning for enemy ships. If while scanning for asteroid belts I would find something worth poking with a salvager or hacking device then that would be great too.
Drake Doe wrote:Last time I checked they all had combat bonuses...
They all have two Frigate Skill bonuses. The Anathema on the other one has one combat and one capacitor instead of two combat. We miss you Saede. |

Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
66
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Posted - 2013.04.14 17:06:00 -
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anathema is also cheaper than all the others for some reason if that influences your choice at all.
Also the cap bonus means it can do longer warps which can be useful sometimes. |

Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
116
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Posted - 2013.04.14 17:09:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:A salvager would be great. The main purpose is gravimetric scanning but also defensive scanning for enemy ships. If while scanning for asteroid belts I would find something worth poking with a salvager or hacking device then that would be great too. Drake Doe wrote:Last time I checked they all had combat bonuses... They all have two Frigate Skill bonuses. The Anathema on the other one has one combat and one capacitor instead of two combat. The cap bonus technically counts as combat because of the high cap drain of amarr weaponry, but then again it can be used for other things. |

Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
13374
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Posted - 2013.04.14 17:10:00 -
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It doesn't really matter which one you use. They can all fit the same probe launcher and the same scanning rigs. The rest is just minor details.
From a PVP point of view I prefer the Cheetah since it is faster, which is nice when trying to make good warpins, but it is also a PITA to fit. We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |

Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
186
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Posted - 2013.04.14 17:47:00 -
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The Cheetah also has a bit more cargo space. |

FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
142
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:11:00 -
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I can fly all of them, but usually avoid the Helios. The missing high slot sucks. There are lots of interesting things you can put there. The Anathema is my usual go to because it is way cheaper than the Cheetah. |

Kata Dakini
Undefined Array
2
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:03:00 -
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Two high slots on covops is pretty fail. |
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Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
67
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:07:00 -
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Kata Dakini wrote:Two high slots on covops is pretty fail.
probe launcher and cloak, what else you going to put there?
Salvager? gun? what??? |

Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
449
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:20:00 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:I can fly all of them, but usually avoid the Helios. The missing high slot sucks. There are lots of interesting things you can put there. The Anathema is my usual go to because it is way cheaper than the Cheetah.
Cheap is good. I expect to lose a few.
We miss you Saede. |

Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
116
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:33:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Kata Dakini wrote:Two high slots on covops is pretty fail. probe launcher and cloak, what else you going to put there? Salvager? gun? what??? A cov ops cyno which is bonused on that hull |

Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
68
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:21:00 -
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Drake Doe wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:Kata Dakini wrote:Two high slots on covops is pretty fail. probe launcher and cloak, what else you going to put there? Salvager? gun? what??? A cov ops cyno which is bonused on that hull
Hadn't even thought of that. Thanks! |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1624
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:49:00 -
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Cheetah is by far the best covops. Reasons being it's the fastest, most agile and can fit 2 nanos at covops 5 (with a proper fit.) |

Cage Man
186
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Posted - 2013.04.15 01:00:00 -
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To be honest with you, your reasons for excluding ships is flawed imo. What you need is a cloak, probe and a prop mod. The rest is possibly unimportant. I can however say that my buzzard has escaped many an attempt to be grabbed in wh space simply because with its natural shield buffer and enough slots to put an OK passive buffer. I have on many occasion been uncloaked and managed to get away in low armor or structure thanks to some shield amps. My lows have warp core stabs in them and the rigs are scanning. You also mentioned salvaging and and hacking, but you exclude the one ship that has enough highs and mids to do what you want based on a bonus you have no plans to use...  Oh PLEASE!!! CCP Fozzie Can I haz a Navy moa....... |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
139
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Posted - 2013.04.15 01:13:00 -
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Anathema. Stats don't matter, so all that's left is which one looks best. |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1297
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Posted - 2013.04.15 01:40:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:To be honest with you, your reasons for excluding ships is flawed imo. What you need is a cloak, probe and a prop mod. The rest is possibly unimportant. I can however say that my buzzard has escaped many an attempt to be grabbed in wh space simply because with its natural shield buffer and enough slots to put an OK passive buffer. I have on many occasion been uncloaked and managed to get away in low armor or structure thanks to some shield amps. My lows have warp core stabs in them and the rigs are scanning. You also mentioned salvaging and and hacking, but you exclude the one ship that has enough highs and mids to do what you want based on a bonus you have no plans to use... 
Maybe excluding the ones that she can't fly? |

Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives
142
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Posted - 2013.04.15 02:04:00 -
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I see many people discounting the usefulness of having a gun on your covops, trust me, it's worth it (unless you want the high foir a covops cyno), you can gank unsuspecting haulers and other covops, I fly a Cheetah and fit mine with scram/web/mwd and a 200mm AC in the high and have actually managed to snag a couple haulers and enemy covops. |

Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2013.04.15 02:20:00 -
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I like the cheetah for it's speed but prefer the anathema for easier fitting, having a -covops cloak, -a cyno, -an expanded probe launcher, -a microwarpdrive -AND a point
all online is a godsend in 0.0.
Try fit that and 2 nanos on any other covops, good luck.
[Anathema, prober] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
[empty med slot] Fleeting Warp Disruptor I Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I [empty med slot]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Cynosural Field Generator I Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
You can put some offline utility mods in the two free midslots.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
142
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Posted - 2013.04.15 02:26:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Kata Dakini wrote:Two high slots on covops is pretty fail. probe launcher and cloak, what else you going to put there? Salvager? gun? what???
Covert Cyno Cyno Salvager II
For the hell of it, I fit a rocket launcher II on one of my covops on a probing alt. I scanned down a neutral destroyer that logged off with aggro and got a solo kill with my Buzzard. The whole time I was shooting him I was thinking, "This is gonna be really awesome unless he logs back on!" |

Cage Man
186
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Posted - 2013.04.15 03:23:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Cage Man wrote:To be honest with you, your reasons for excluding ships is flawed imo. What you need is a cloak, probe and a prop mod. The rest is possibly unimportant. I can however say that my buzzard has escaped many an attempt to be grabbed in wh space simply because with its natural shield buffer and enough slots to put an OK passive buffer. I have on many occasion been uncloaked and managed to get away in low armor or structure thanks to some shield amps. My lows have warp core stabs in them and the rigs are scanning. You also mentioned salvaging and and hacking, but you exclude the one ship that has enough highs and mids to do what you want based on a bonus you have no plans to use...  Maybe excluding the ones that she can't fly?
First line of her post....
Derath Ellecon wrote: Out of the 4 available the Caldari and Minmatar are disqualified for having bonuses to weapon systems since the one I'll be flying won't be armed.
Oh PLEASE!!! CCP Fozzie Can I haz a Navy moa....... |

Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
455
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Posted - 2013.04.15 04:32:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:To be honest with you, your reasons for excluding ships is flawed imo. What you need is a cloak, probe and a prop mod. The rest is possibly unimportant. I can however say that my buzzard has escaped many an attempt to be grabbed in wh space simply because with its natural shield buffer and enough slots to put an OK passive buffer. I have on many occasion been uncloaked and managed to get away in low armor or structure thanks to some shield amps. My lows have warp core stabs in them and the rigs are scanning. You also mentioned salvaging and and hacking, but you exclude the one ship that has enough highs and mids to do what you want based on a bonus you have no plans to use... 
I'm excluding the helios for lacking a high slot. As for the other three they have the same amount of high and mid slots.
I'm not fitting tank on my CO ship at the cost of it's efficiency to do its job. I'll have ten shipped up to be sure and if I get caught I'll just grab another one.
We miss you Saede. |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
3326
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Posted - 2013.04.15 05:00:00 -
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I think the Helios is probably the best one unless you're looking to use that third high slot for something interesting (covops cyno). The biggest problem with the Helios, to me, is that they nerfed the hell out of its looks. I generally fly the Anathema now.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
563
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:14:00 -
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Sjugar wrote:I like the cheetah for it's speed but prefer the anathema for easier fitting, having a -covops cloak, -a cyno, -an expanded probe launcher, -a microwarpdrive -AND a point
all online is a godsend in 0.0.
Try fit that and 2 nanos on any other covops, good luck.
[Anathema, prober] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
[empty med slot] Fleeting Warp Disruptor I Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I [empty med slot]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Cynosural Field Generator I Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
You can put some offline utility mods in the two free midslots.
I like it.
Currently I'm considering this setup:
[Anathema] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Co-Processor II
1MN Microwarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Remote Sensor Dampener II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Expanded Probe Launcher I Covert Cynosural Field Generator I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
And then keeping the cyno offline per default and in case I ever end up needing one I can offline the MWD and activate it.
Other than that it feels like a waste to have a salvager in the third high slot which was my other alternative.
On and help me find an answer for this question: Can enemy drones attack you without the enemy ships having locked you? Because if they can then the sensor damp won't be of much use. We miss you Saede. |

Lyza Kimbo
Cat Scratch Fever
3
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Posted - 2013.05.16 03:52:00 -
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Sjugar wrote:I like the cheetah for it's speed but prefer the anathema for easier fitting, having a -covops cloak, -a cyno, -an expanded probe launcher, -a microwarpdrive -AND a point
all online is a godsend in 0.0.
Try fit that and 2 nanos on any other covops, good luck.
[Anathema, prober] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
[empty med slot] Fleeting Warp Disruptor I Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I [empty med slot]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Cynosural Field Generator I Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
You can put some offline utility mods in the two free midslots.
What's a "point" ? |

Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
563
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Posted - 2013.05.16 04:08:00 -
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Lyza Kimbo wrote:Sjugar wrote:I like the cheetah for it's speed but prefer the anathema for easier fitting, having a -covops cloak, -a cyno, -an expanded probe launcher, -a microwarpdrive -AND a point
all online is a godsend in 0.0.
Try fit that and 2 nanos on any other covops, good luck.
[Anathema, prober] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
[empty med slot] Fleeting Warp Disruptor I Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I [empty med slot]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Cynosural Field Generator I Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
You can put some offline utility mods in the two free midslots.
What's a "point" ?
Warp scramblers/disruptors are called "points" The scrambler being a short point and the disruptor a long point. We miss you Saede. |

DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
165
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Posted - 2013.05.16 05:12:00 -
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The best Probe ship come June 4th is any ship you can physically undock from Station in!! CCP is basically dumbing down probing so much that any ship with the base skill of Astrometrics LvL 1 (which every new player after June 4th starts with) will be able to find all but the hardest sigs. Scanning support skills will have such a lowered effect from now that all of us who trained them up to 4/5 essentially wasted that time. Now, to be fair, having said support scanning skills won't HURT and will help you find those pesky little 1.27% results, but I digress.
I'm not upset about the changes but I wish CCP hadn't taken the blanket approach to the new system, in that they're making it all basically the same with no real value to increasing one's skills (especially support skills) in scanning, or even bother with Imps. The Operative:-á"There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now".
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds:-á"You have no idea how true that is". |

Le Badass
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
81
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:45:00 -
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Helios or Buzzard because they're the best for covops-on-covops combat :) |

Cable Udan
The Tuskers
173
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Posted - 2013.05.16 08:19:00 -
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Anathema for me.
It looks like a golden version of Slave I. http://chasingtheblueflash.blogspot.com/
My Pirate Blog |
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feihcsiM
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
236
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:13:00 -
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I like the Buzzard for probing, with it's slot layout it has utility as a covert cyno or suicide point ship when needed.
Outside of the probing I have to say the a brawl fit Helios is bloody fantastic as an unexpected combat ship - 145dps (nearly 160 with void), twin webs, nearly 6k ehp against lowest resist and almost guaranteed to be engaged. It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. |

Darlew Demian
Continuum. Nuclear Confusion
0
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:44:00 -
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any suggestions on how you would fit the buzzard for lowsec probing? was thinking about trying some professional sites in lowsec, there are just too many people in HiSec....
altought i'm unshure if i should go for CovOps frig or stick around with my arbitrator |

Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
2847
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Posted - 2013.05.16 10:01:00 -
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Not much difference between a covops fit for lowsec or hisec exploration. Nanos in the lows, profession mods in the mids, cloak, probes, offensive module. Medium Ancillary Shield booster is nice for tanking the random spawns and staying on the cans (I dual box a scanner who cracks the cans and an Ishtar/Proteus to handle the rats so I can run every site I find), but the major downside of covert ops is the lack of dps- there are many mag/radar sites with plenty of rats. While it's technically possible to for example drone kite them with a Helios, it's really not that sensible.
For this reason I'd go for the T1 versions, come with more combat potential and also bonus to the profession mods.
However, things will change a lot in a few weeks- skill changes and the new modules will make scanning a lot easier, and you'll probably be able to scan well with just about any ship with enough slots to dedicate for scanning enhancers... but they will also remove the rats from mags and radars, so the decision is mostly about what you want to do- combat exploration sites can be much more lucrative, and all scanning frigates are bad for those.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |

Vaihto Ehto
16
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Posted - 2013.05.16 10:05:00 -
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After Odyssey there's no reason to fly anything other than Buzzard or secondarily Helios. Why would you not use an alt to post on the forums? |

Darlew Demian
Continuum. Nuclear Confusion
0
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:42:00 -
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Vaihto Ehto wrote:After Odyssey there's no reason to fly anything other than Buzzard or secondarily Helios. you do know that rat's can still spawn in prof. sites because of a trigger? there is no initial spawn, but they still can show up....
btw, are prof. sites in lowsec more rentable than hisec? is it worth the risk? |

Bea Love
IX Legio Hispana Aquila Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2013.05.16 17:09:00 -
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I prefer the Anathema - it because of the warps. I dont really know - are there any aligntime base differences?! Its also looks amazing :)
(the cheetah i dont really remeber but, a time ago there were green engine trails on it?! if the engine trails would be green - i would fly the cheetah :))
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Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
235
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Posted - 2013.05.16 17:14:00 -
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When we have access to all these new modules I'd say the cov ops with the most mids. |

Ersahi Kir
Infinite Mobility SpaceMonkey's Alliance
163
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:45:00 -
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Considering that they haven't started tech II teiricide I think is a poor decision to make a ship choice based on the current covert ops ships. Picking the one you like looking at the most has extra meaning now since that's all that's likely to be the same. |

Edwin McAlister
Interstellar Engineering and Electronics INC
0
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:57:00 -
[39] - Quote
the ultimate probe ship (at least in my opinion)
TENGU
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer (subsystem bonus 10% increase to scan strength of probes per level) Tengu Defensive - Supplementary Screening Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration (can fit covert ops cloak) Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
HIGH SLOT Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Salvager I Sister's Expanded Probe Launcher Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
MED SLOT Adaptive Invul Field II 10MN AB II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Medium Shield Booster II Codebreaker I Analyzer I
LOW SLOT Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II
RIGS Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I (this rig increases ships scan probe strength) Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
I can scan down sights and clear them with 1 ship, no swaping ships, .. swap out the modules as you think would best suit your needs, these suit me fine for what I use it for (over kill in most cases, as I operate in high sec space for the current time being, at least until back from deployment)
with the new scan modules (midslot) incomeing possibly, can swap out some of the over kill defensive stuff and replace with those
my skills and this ship, put the probes at a base sensor strength of 114.8 (vs 44 base sensor strength unmodified)
Ed |

Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
564
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:27:00 -
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Edwin McAlister wrote:the ultimate probe ship (at least in my opinion)
TENGU
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer (subsystem bonus 10% increase to scan strength of probes per level) Tengu Defensive - Supplementary Screening Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration (can fit covert ops cloak) Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
HIGH SLOT Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Salvager I Sister's Expanded Probe Launcher Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
MED SLOT Adaptive Invul Field II 10MN AB II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Medium Shield Booster II Codebreaker I Analyzer I
LOW SLOT Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II
RIGS Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I (this rig increases ships scan probe strength) Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
I can scan down sights and clear them with 1 ship, no swaping ships, .. swap out the modules as you think would best suit your needs, these suit me fine for what I use it for (over kill in most cases, as I operate in high sec space for the current time being, at least until back from deployment)
with the new scan modules (midslot) incomeing possibly, can swap out some of the over kill defensive stuff and replace with those
my skills and this ship, put the probes at a base sensor strength of 114.8 (vs 44 base sensor strength unmodified)
Ed
Yes but it's a Tengu. It's a carebear mission running ship. I can't bring that to null. I'm going to look like a douche.
Might as well stick a T1 cloak and a probe launcher on a faction battleship for all the laughs I'll get anyway in that case.
We miss you Saede. |
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Cameron Freerunner
Long Jump.
17
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:53:00 -
[41] - Quote
Sjugar wrote:I like the cheetah for it's speed but prefer the anathema for easier fitting, having a -covops cloak, -a cyno, -an expanded probe launcher, -a microwarpdrive -AND a point
all online is a godsend in 0.0.
Try fit that and 2 nanos on any other covops, good luck.
[Anathema, prober] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
[empty med slot] Fleeting Warp Disruptor I Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I [empty med slot]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Cynosural Field Generator I Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
You can put some offline utility mods in the two free midslots.
[Cheetah, Cheetah 1] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Faint Warp Disruptor I [empty med slot] [empty med slot]
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Covert Cynosural Field Generator I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
pretty close. i'll fiddle with eft a bit more |

Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
85
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Posted - 2013.05.18 10:34:00 -
[42] - Quote
I'd say #1 is either helios or anathema. Helios can fit a lot of hero tackle, TD, webscram while the anathema is (thanks to rockets) the deadliest covops. Or....
[Anathema, :censored:]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
1MN Afterburner II X5 Prototype Engine Enervator J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Expanded Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe Rocket Launcher II
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
If you want to squeeze combat in. Afterburner is very situational - in w-space, mwd is normally way preferred for zipping away from wormholes after jumping. With a mwd, you won't get caught by a lone sabre. |

Myrkala
Royal Robot Ponies Happy Cartel
61
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Posted - 2013.05.20 13:35:00 -
[43] - Quote
Angelique Duchemin wrote:Edwin McAlister wrote:the ultimate probe ship (at least in my opinion)
TENGU
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer (subsystem bonus 10% increase to scan strength of probes per level) Tengu Defensive - Supplementary Screening Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration (can fit covert ops cloak) Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
HIGH SLOT Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Salvager I Sister's Expanded Probe Launcher Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
MED SLOT Adaptive Invul Field II 10MN AB II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Medium Shield Booster II Codebreaker I Analyzer I
LOW SLOT Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II
RIGS Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I (this rig increases ships scan probe strength) Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
I can scan down sights and clear them with 1 ship, no swaping ships, .. swap out the modules as you think would best suit your needs, these suit me fine for what I use it for (over kill in most cases, as I operate in high sec space for the current time being, at least until back from deployment)
with the new scan modules (midslot) incomeing possibly, can swap out some of the over kill defensive stuff and replace with those
my skills and this ship, put the probes at a base sensor strength of 114.8 (vs 44 base sensor strength unmodified)
Ed Yes but it's a Tengu. It's a carebear mission running ship. I can't bring that to null. I'm going to look like a douche. Might as well stick a T1 cloak and a probe launcher on a faction battleship for all the laughs I'll get anyway in that case.
The only reason you would wan't a Tengu is that you can ignore bubbles... which this fit can't.
Anyways, after the patch with the new modules we might actually see T3s become even better probers than Covert Ops ships because of more midslots to fit them... |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:26:00 -
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The only thing that sucks with Helios is that puking design a-la golf man. For probing the 4 of them are nice but don't do anything else than probe or fit guns and bait other frigs, to clean your sites use another ship. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Taktar thopom
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:38:00 -
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Explothema post Odyssey :
[Anathema] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Codebreaker II Analyzer II 1MN Microwarpdrive II Cargo Scanner II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Core Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe Cynosural Field Generator I /OFFLINE
Small Emission Scope Sharpener I Small Memetic Algorithm Bank I
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