lol

I think it's also important to note that new players are not children, in fact they are typically grown-ass men and that this is a computer game, not real life, nothing bad happens if you lose a spaceship.

They don't need protecting from anything. It's the game that needs protecting from people like the terrible OP who'd diminish its richness in the name of "protecting new players."

= duel request

100% proof that you are wrong....

check ur inbox... kill mail that started me off on this rant is in there

tip: dont assume we are all lieing out of our arses....

anyone else wants the km ask... [unless there is a way to link it here, but its not my kill or loss so i really cba...]

I never said newbies are never victims of awoxing, but it is dishonest to suggest they are the primary or only targets of it, and to use that entirely untrue premise to justify massive gameplay changes that are not required at all, and serve no purpose other than to further nudge EVE towards being yet another toothless, coddling boring mmo

It's also disingenuous to suggest that by fixing this, you will protect 'newbies', when in fact this would only be a small measure in that direction, as they would still be capable of being hurt or taken from a thousands and thousands of other ways, all legitimate mechanics.

i do fully agree. there does need to be more things in place. maby something that will be better accepted: a link to corp kills and such available when atleast being offered a place... it is true they exist out of eve... but afaik... they are not directly accessible with eve's current mechanics... that and from the perspective of new players... eve is the only mmo i know that allows the games version of a "clan/guild" to be able to ruin the experience... like i keep saying.... the meta game itself is part of what makes eve great... and i can see where some people are coming from... but i also see where some others are comiung from - that it will ruin their ability to use such mechanics to grief and harass players that really need to be looked after... just a little bit better.

and to all you lovely people that have decced.... go frack yourselves... nuf said :) - im not gunna back down from the stance that SOMETHING needs doing on this matter... if not the proposed change, then open to sugestions... [was considering ccp's input on related matters re rules and such.... but i have seen ALOT of similar sugestions go with little or no support....]

and btw - frack isnt a swear word, so dont even try going down that crying route....

http://thewritepractice.com/how-to-use-an-ellipsis-correctly/

It's not harassment or griefing. Often there's profit involved - because when you spend say, 200 mil ISK on a battleship and awox a 5 bil bear toy, say 2,5 bil drops - you're 2,3 bil richer. It's profit - it's business.

and to all you lovely people that have decced.... go frack yourselves... nuf said :)

Have people really wardec'd you over this?

Yup.

Someone has to hold the carebears accountable.

i do fully agree. there does need to be more things in place. maby something that will be better accepted: a link to corp kills and such available when atleast being offered a place... it is true they exist out of eve... but afaik... they are not directly accessible with eve's current mechanics...

the meta game itself is part of what makes eve great... and i can see where some people are coming from...

Have people really wardec'd you over this?

Edited to fix broken quote

[I guess EvE is a game of consequences

yes sir.... 4 so far... :/

i propose:

the removal of the ability for corp members to shoot eachother, without entering a duel, in high sec, without concord interfierence.

with the new duel system, is there any need for it to remain

it only causes issues such as it being risky to bring people into a corp, and has also been used by experienced players to lure newbies in just to be killed....

can anyone give me a reason why it SHOULD stay?

/KoS

At the very least we can say that the current system makes trust into something somewhat valuable

No it doesn't. It just encourages solo play in a mmo. You won't find a more paranoid and unsociable bunch anywhere else.

I've got plenty of people I trust. Would turn over my most expensive assets to, and my clone.