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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2005.09.25 02:19:00 -
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I'm not going to argue opinion. I believe what i believe and so far I haven't been proven different.
^_^ now on a nicer subject, do you like my new bio? Sieesa made it but I don't feel it is h0mo-erotic enough. thoughts?
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Tyto
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Posted - 2005.09.25 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss I'm not going to argue opinion. I believe what i believe and so far I haven't been proven different.
^_^ now on a nicer subject, do you like my new bio? Sieesa made it but I don't feel it is h0mo-erotic enough. thoughts?
Bliss, get your own thread instead of hijacking ours.
With regard the animosity you are trying to stoke between JF and UK... I understand the why, it obviously helps your cause, but really, JF and UK are mature enough to see through this admittedly transparent attempt.
On a personal note, I have never seen you in combat with your Amarrian masters, so I hope you won't mind if I don't take your military analyses too seriously.
Shuo Ban- thank your blade for me. You have managed to cut through a lot of the murk on this thread.
"If we don't change, we don't grow. If we don't grow, we aren't really living."
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2005.09.25 12:47:00 -
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When dealing with Jade never forget where her main frontline is and has always been: propaganda battles on the board.
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Shuo Ban
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Posted - 2005.09.26 09:27:00 -
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Just like u PIE guys ..... heck half of the battles are won through that ... oh right u never did win any battles my bad .....
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2005.09.26 09:33:00 -
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At least we don't have to hide behind alter egos in the Hedion University and can mostly write in complete words already.
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Shuo Ban
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Posted - 2005.09.26 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: Shuo Ban on 26/09/2005 09:42:13 whats an alter ego ?? and im in the republic military school for my expertise in hand to hand combat .... oh sorry forgot ur an Amarr Slaver....
ME ...... GOOD ....... YOU ....... BAD ....... ME ....... NOT ....... LIKE .......YOU .....
back to the topic though, Jericho Fraction an allience or corp ?? -----------------------------------------------
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:53:00 -
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Jericho Fraction is a single corporation Shuo Ban. Moderately sized but very good at stirring up hornet's nests. At the moment we are promoting the cause of anti-territorialism and revolutionary freespace ethics in the North at odds of about (according to the alliance registry pages) 30 to 1.
And I know I'm not losing 
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Shuo Ban
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Posted - 2005.09.27 08:54:00 -
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Is it true u promote free sex and stuff like that ?? Ur like free naked dancing and such ? or is it just my drity brain workin here?? U do have some very pretty members i have 2 admit .....
Yah blade what ?? ya i know im out of line but i have 2 know ..... yes yes i know if they support freedom as such they will not be offended by my questions..... No i am not being silly its an important ........ NO ! i will not !! right im very upset at u now .....
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.09.27 11:10:00 -
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Im sure there was space in this thread for debate in between the ego's, but i think that space has now been eaten up. Ushra'Khan has no interest in JF as far as I am aware, and there is no reason why we should.
Feel free to debate over it however, i shall have some trading cards drawn up for you all to play with.
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Just a simple warrior.
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Dallenn
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Posted - 2005.09.27 20:07:00 -
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When one can think out of one's little sandbox, the TPFM decision to fight for freedom on a different front makes sense.
I can speak from personal experience as I as well once fought against the Amarr empire and its militant loyalist groups. However Matari fighters from this war move on, because they have largely reached their goals. The CVA zealots today are either incapable or unwilling to protect the falling Amarr empire, having lost their military power and now taking refuge in 0.0 space.
In other words, despite still engaging in grievous crime against our people, the Amarr empire is hardly the single most threatening regime in our star cluster. The Empire is technologically backward and weak in its capacity to follow the social evolution that the rest of the star cluster is going through. It is likely to fall in a very short span of history, allowing new freedom to countless Minmatar and members of other bloodlines in slavery.
Today's most capable political and military entity is the capsuleer community - that means you and me. We have technology and organization which allows extreme mobility and ceaseless warfare, should the need be. But if you, as a capsuleer pilot, are living in an area of space whose resources by and large have been exhausted, under a hierarchical regime, you are weakening yourself significantly.
Therefore I urge you - my fellow Minmatar pilots - to cooperate with capsuleers of Caldari and Gallente origin, as well as with Amarrian insurgents, and to reach for the resources in deep 0.0 space. This is the road of cooperation and building of freedom on the frontier which you eventually need to take, should you wish for the tribes to have a future in our star cluster.
To Shuo Ban: I have found out light, comfortable clothing works best when dancing... most of the time! 
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.09.27 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/09/2005 21:36:02
Originally by: Dallenn When one can think out of one's little sandbox, the TPFM decision to fight for freedom on a different front makes sense.
I can speak from personal experience as I as well once fought against the Amarr empire and its militant loyalist groups. However Matari fighters from this war move on, because they have largely reached their goals. The CVA zealots today are either incapable or unwilling to protect the falling Amarr empire, having lost their military power and now taking refuge in 0.0 space.
In other words, despite still engaging in grievous crime against our people, the Amarr empire is hardly the single most threatening regime in our star cluster. The Empire is technologically backward and weak in its capacity to follow the social evolution that the rest of the star cluster is going through. It is likely to fall in a very short span of history, allowing new freedom to countless Minmatar and members of other bloodlines in slavery.
Today's most capable political and military entity is the capsuleer community - that means you and me. We have technology and organization which allows extreme mobility and ceaseless warfare, should the need be. But if you, as a capsuleer pilot, are living in an area of space whose resources by and large have been exhausted, under a hierarchical regime, you are weakening yourself significantly.
Therefore I urge you - my fellow Minmatar pilots - to cooperate with capsuleers of Caldari and Gallente origin, as well as with Amarrian insurgents, and to reach for the resources in deep 0.0 space. This is the road of cooperation and building of freedom on the frontier which you eventually need to take, should you wish for the tribes to have a future in our star cluster.
To Shuo Ban: I have found out light, comfortable clothing works best when dancing... most of the time! 
So when the CVA operate in 0.0 space to complement our normal operations we're "taking refuge", but when Jericho Faction set up base in 0.0 you're "reaching for resources"?
Congratulations, with your prejudiced use of language you'll fit in very well with the other Jericho fantasists.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2005.09.27 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Im sure there was space in this thread for debate in between the ego's, but i think that space has now been eaten up. Ushra'Khan has no interest in JF as far as I am aware, and there is no reason why we should.
Feel free to debate over it however, i shall have some trading cards drawn up for you all to play with.
I didn't intent to start a flame or anything, I was only commenting on the following comment:
Originally by: Ly'sol I could swear the UK has been spitting a lot of fight'n words.
sorry for any angst I might have caused 
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Dallenn
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Posted - 2005.09.28 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
So when the CVA operate in 0.0 space to complement our normal operations we're "taking refuge", but when Jericho Faction set up base in 0.0 you're "reaching for resources"?
An easy shot I see... However it is off the mark as we have not beaten our chests about "protecting" an empire, its rulers, citizens and various organizations.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.09.29 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Im sure there was space in this thread for debate in between the ego's, but i think that space has now been eaten up. Ushra'Khan has no interest in JF as far as I am aware, and there is no reason why we should.
Feel free to debate over it however, i shall have some trading cards drawn up for you all to play with.
I didn't intent to start a flame or anything, I was only commenting on the following comment:
Originally by: Ly'sol I could swear the UK has been spitting a lot of fight'n words.
sorry for any angst I might have caused 
Angst? I like you....
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Vulkyn
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Posted - 2005.10.02 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Vulkyn on 02/10/2005 12:21:06 Hmmmm..... how much is the price for this freedom ? what do you have to sacrifice for your way? nothing is for free not even freedom in itself....
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Shuo Ban
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Posted - 2005.10.02 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dallenn To Shuo Ban: I have found out light, comfortable clothing works best when dancing... most of the time! 
Me like !!! blade like !!! me want more details !! -----------------------------------------------
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Shidhe
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Posted - 2005.10.05 16:44:00 -
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OK, can someone tell me (the one who slept through all my geography and philosophy exams) what this actually means?
There are about 70,000 pilots. In the planets there are hundreds of billions... How can we just walk away and pretend that they arent our responsibility?
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Tyto
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Posted - 2005.10.05 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shidhe OK, can someone tell me (the one who slept through all my geography and philosophy exams) what this actually means?
There are about 70,000 pilots. In the planets there are hundreds of billions... How can we just walk away and pretend that they arent our responsibility?
I'm sorry Shidhe, I'm not sure I understand your question. Would you care to elaborate?
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Azrael Callidor
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Posted - 2005.10.08 17:05:00 -
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I feel the need to add my thoughts into this thread, it's been staring at me for a while!
TPFM this is a little late, but I wish you all the best in your endeavours with Jericho. I respect the reasons for the transition and I think they are entirely valid, though some of my brethren think otherwise.
Firstly, I'm not exactly sure why people don't understand what Jericho do... they've explained so many times, in most cases very eloquently. I suspect its a lack of desire to read their entire posts.. I suggest giving the skim-reading a miss. If you still have trouble, get a dictionary because you are clearly missing something
Anyway, with respect to what they do.. Jericho's quest for "freedom" is an admirable one in my opinion. It transcends the everday notions of what the concept means and challenges those that are seduced by the dogma of their respective societies to think twice. This can only be a good thing.
Hell, I would go as far as saying I have a real affinity with freespace ideals and I would be proud to fly under their banner for their cause. However I'm a pragmatist. Fighting physical slavery may only one aspect of "freedom", its even only one aspect of my agenda, but it makes a real difference to real peoples lives. Though the arguements that we indirectly propogate slavery are weak at best, we will never end slavery I fear, no matter how many Matari freedom fighters believe we will. The Amarr Empire is strong, and even if we could remove it, that would just be... wrong. We could just walk away, but then who would stand in the way of the oppression?
Regardless, we do our best and that is enough in many cases. For now it's a cause worth pursuing. I might add that similarly, however noble the pursuit, Jericho doesnt appear to be dismantling empires and their philosophies either... Even unachievable goals can be worth fighting for sometimes...
Fly well Jericho, particularly ex-TPFM. ---
AC
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Tyto
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Posted - 2005.10.08 19:07:00 -
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Thankyou for your best wishes Azrael, they are warmly received.
It certainly appears that there are some members of Ushra Khan able to see beyond their battles with Amarr.
The dream we are fighting for is not as far from the Ushra Khan dream (see other posts for details). I can't explain to you how gratifying it is to operate in 0.0 without the restrictions of thuggish Alliances controlling your every move. It is even more gratifying to be a part of a movement which is working to inspire empire based corps into making the move into 0.0.
0.0 really is not as bad or difficult to operate in as many of those alliances would wish you to believe. Maybe some time soon, Jericho will have the pleasure of the company of members of Ushra Khan in Pure Blind. That would be something to look forward to, swapping war stories over a few drinks.
Ushra Khan, fly well.
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