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AntiHero
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Posted - 2003.07.30 03:25:00 -
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Hralti... I could live with that.
But the most important item that all of you naysayers seem to miss is that if GMs can abuse a name change situation... What's next? To remove a ship or a couple of 650 scouts from your hangar? Think about it.
Oh, and by the way, here is the definition of antichrist: 1. an opponent of or disbeliever in Christ 2. the great antagonist of Christ 3. a false Christ
The word antichrist does not mean you are against christians, or it would be 'antichristian.' In reference to the first definition... it would apply to almost 2/3 of the worlds population. There are many disbelievers that Christ was the messiah.
- Antichrist Blackship Industries
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Lilith
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Posted - 2003.07.30 03:31:00 -
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Right, and I'm the ***** of Babylon. (According to one doctrine).
(Actually, as the handmaiden of Inanna I used to lead the people to the Temples for Love Rituals.)
What the GM did was out of line and blatently, wrong.
For what it's worth, I think you should get at least one free month for your public humiliation.
Then I think the GM responsible should be put out here for a public tar and feathering.
starts to rip the stuffing out of her eider pillows Better to be an enemy than a slave. |

Zephillis
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Posted - 2003.07.30 03:31:00 -
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Quote: why post this here where only a bunch of pointless board whiners will see it, and it will most likely get locked, instead of emailing support?
Bottom Line is this post is a waste of time. NO ONE WHO MATTERS CARES.
You must not matter then..
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Karif
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Posted - 2003.07.30 03:40:00 -
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Karif, any name, or word can be considered offensive to anybody, look at your post for instance you are using Vulgarity, by your fashion of writing I would say that you are a moron, uneducated, and just plain outright ignorant
You mean the notion that reality, and by definition language, is a subjectively constructed entity that is reliant entirely on the participants' interpretation of the events?
Impressive - I suppose I could dig up Weber's exact quote, but that'll suffice for now.
Either way, I'll explain it a bit further since you don't get it:
*If* reality is subjectively constructed, then those with the ability to impinge their views on others might be considered to possess power. The people with the power in this situation would not be those crying here about how unfair the universe is.
Yes Timmy, the people with the power in these circumstances would be those that changed the name. We call this REALITY 101 for those of us who live in it.
Because THEY have the power, THEY are the ones that ultimately make the decision on what is and is not a violation of said TOS. All it would take would be for ONE of said members to take offense the name, and summarily change it as it is within their mandate to act upon that which can be construed as offensive to others.
This is exactly what happened I suspect. While the name it was changed to is stupid and perhaps just as unacceptable. This does not invalidate the fact that your name was a violation of the TOS and needed to be changed. Since you were not online with the character, however it was found had no choice but to change the name without your consent (since your consent is not necessary, read the the @%#!Q#@ TOS) or even warning. Since it is something rather obvious, the GM in question may have just made the change knowing full well your first actions would be to petition to have it changed to something you would prefer as opposed to Loving Jesus.
There is this horrible notion, predominately in North America, that the customer is always right. Customers NEVER try to take advantage of producers, of course. The reverse is always true mind you - CCP is ALWAYS out to screw us over.

Seeing as you're taking such great offense at having the name "Antichrist" stripped, perhaps you can explain why you chose it in the first place and why you feel this it is unfair, given the demographic market that EVE is aimed at, why it should not be considered an offensive name by others?
And yes, I do rely on vulgarity. Act like the south end of a north facing horse and some people, for some irrational reason, treat such folks in kind.
SEE: Reciprocal nature of the universe. =============================== Deception + Information + Skill |

The Drip
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Posted - 2003.07.30 03:41:00 -
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You advanced the storyline too much, we've only heard of:
Eve Genesis Eden
We are still missing Adam, Moses, some plagues and stuff, and you have to pick ANTICHRIST?
No wonder man, that's in the back half of the Bible.
The name you chose is probably in the design docs for a year down the road, and is used for some roleplay/content crap.
:)
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Indesin
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Posted - 2003.07.30 03:42:00 -
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*looks around*
I just realized, my nick has the letters S-I-N... I hope I don't become Warm Fuzzy.

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Spike Spiegel
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Posted - 2003.07.30 03:47:00 -
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Ya...this was in my opinion very unprofesionally handled. Shoulda gotten an evemail stating that he needed to change his name in the next 24 hours or somethin...
They took mah budz name...unless they give it back or let him change his name im doin character name searches for "offensive" names...if he goes down im takin punks with him 
Until then I stand next to mah boy...hell..cant someone roleplay the bringer of the apocalypse in eve? Besides..i know for a fact a guy had th name JesusChrist...what happened to him?
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Zephillis
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Posted - 2003.07.30 03:50:00 -
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Karif, I find your name offensive I will petition it, therefore they will change it, that is what your novel boils down too. And that CCP can do whatever they want that they are the POWER and that is REALITY, well I do not know the reality you live in, but in mine and tons other you fight for what you belive in, not go into a submissive state and let then walk all over you to do so is weak and cowardly. I am paying them to play this game, if they screw me over (Business or person in general) then I will rise up and fight it. Unlike some people.
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AntiHero
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Posted - 2003.07.30 03:52:00 -
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Karif...
I see you keep checking back to see how this situation evolves. Well here is what I see... You are simply a mildly (at best) intelligent person who likes to hear himself speak. If you wish to write a book on human nature, find yourself a publisher, don't waste Evesters time with your useless drivel.
'Nuff said, Antichrist Blackship Industries
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.07.30 03:55:00 -
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Glad to see the idiot GMS and Devs are still as caught up in their own personal vision of their favorite invisible man as the rest of the monkeys.
Evolve people.
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Indesin
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Posted - 2003.07.30 04:03:00 -
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Why doesn't someone make the character name "AntiJesus" and we'll see what happens.
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Bas Rutten
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Posted - 2003.07.30 04:10:00 -
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Someone give the responsible GM the book "The Antichrist" by F.W. Nietzsche as present ... there¦s more to that word with a philosophical approach. ____________________________________
Deny the Urge - brutal Death from Germoney
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Spike Spiegel
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Posted - 2003.07.30 04:11:00 -
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Im surprised no mods or anyone has responded to this yet...im waiting for the almighty *click* in which case I will start another one if Anti doesnt...
If there gonna start changing "offensive" names...they need to do it 100%..not just 1 name..
Come on CCP...show some proffesionalism..at least respond to the thread
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M0RPHEUS
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Posted - 2003.07.30 04:14:00 -
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i get my named changed = i quit... Ask me nicely and I won't pod you... |

Spike Spiegel
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Posted - 2003.07.30 04:54:00 -
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Ya but M0RPHEUS whats offensive about your name? Or am I missing something completely obvious because its late and my brain is dead hehe...
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Zephillis
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Posted - 2003.07.30 04:56:00 -
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Your brains allways dead Spike, regardless of the time of day or wether or not your tired... 
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DeathMan
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Posted - 2003.07.30 05:04:00 -
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Spike = Brain Dead = Yes
Reason Its all those drugs that this hippy does. 
Deathman Admiral Blackship Industries
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Karif
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Posted - 2003.07.30 05:24:00 -
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I am paying them to play this game, if they screw me over (Business or person in general) then I will rise up and fight it. Unlike some people.
Oh, yes, tell us all how REPRESSED you are by the big bad nasty CCP. Even when YOU are in the wrong you will fight it because you cannot possibly be wrong. After all, the customer is always right. Even when they're trying to cheat, lie and defraud a company.
However, please petition CCP to change my name because *you* find it offensive. Call it a hunch, call it a firm grasp on understanding human behavior, but I suspect my name will remain unchanged.
Want to make a little bet on this one skippy?
If you wish to write a book on human nature, find yourself a publisher, don't waste Evesters time with your useless drivel.
Pot meet kettle, kettle meet pot.
You're the one crying about your stupid name getting changed "unfairly", despite the fact - as I outlined - it was well within the scope of enforcing the TOS for a GM to make such a change.
My apologies for documenting your stupidity. In the future, to avoid such events, you might want to avoid making public your stupid actions. =============================== Deception + Information + Skill |

GALAGA
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Posted - 2003.07.30 05:49:00 -
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Maybe it wasnt the GM's, perhaps the Almighty himself was sending you a message. :) ----------------------------------------------- "The Light shineth in the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not." |

Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.07.30 06:17:00 -
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Quote:
... You're the one crying about your stupid name getting changed "unfairly", despite the fact - as I outlined - it was well within the scope of enforcing the TOS for a GM to make such a change. ...
It may be within the scope of the ToS for a GM to make such a change. But it is outside the scope of a professional customer service representative to further make an ass out of a customer.
If a GM decided to change my name right now, I could ***** about it. But it'd be his perogative, limited only by his imagination in finding a way to justify it. However if said GM changed my name to something that I considered humorous at my expense....Well, I'd raise enough hell the name 'Antichrist' might be fitting.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

CenZor
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Posted - 2003.07.30 06:23:00 -
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2003.07.30 06:43:00 -
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The person who changed his name should have given him:
a) a warning first b) an reason why its offensive to them c) an option to change it to something else
automatically setting it to "Loving Jesus" may be funny for them, but is totally unproffesional in their approach.
Nice way to keep customers  _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Nightwing
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Posted - 2003.07.30 06:50:00 -
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Actually, I find the name "Loving Jesus" to be MUCH more offensive than "Antichrist"
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Indesin
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Posted - 2003.07.30 07:07:00 -
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That's it, lets all file a petition about the offensive Loving Jesus nick.
Ohh the humanity.
Someone's going to get a warning over this, and I doubt it will be Loving Jesus (or Antichrist as he was once known?).
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Kerago
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Posted - 2003.07.30 07:16:00 -
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Well, according to google, Kerago means "to trumpet" in some dead language. As such, it is offensive (because that guy got a trumpet stuck up his ass in American Pie 2). As such, I guess I can kiss my nick goodbye huh?
Absolutely unacceptable if true. I've seen some arbitrary crap in various MMORPG's but that's just not cool. Come on polaris reps, you are usually very quick to edit and lock, why haven't you responded with an explanation? You think you have enough people in this game you can **** them off willy nilly?
CCP, I hope you actually read these boards occasionally and don't rely on volunteer staff. The boards for a game like this are vital to the long term continuation of the game. Sure, you have to wade through a lot of idiots and whiners, but that's also the best indication of what your problems are. Whiners will always find something to whine about but ignore them at your peril. ________________________________________________
Ya Hya Chouhada, Long live the fighters. |

Drutort
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Posted - 2003.07.30 07:29:00 -
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regardless of the GM's action. There is nothing in the TOS saying how they have to do there job really, but the thing you did agree was to the TOS.
And others are right though, if you were not online etc to have your name changed then, it would be up to the GM to do so.
Btw it isnt like they will not change it to something else.
Although i would still have to say that they should have emailed you, and said that they have changed your name temp, and to reply back to them with a new name. support Idea: QuickInfo an alternative to ShowInfo
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CARGO FULL
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Posted - 2003.07.30 07:56:00 -
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Quote: unprofessional? mabey. I am glad to see the devs having fun esp at the expense of the Anti-christ. How seriously can anyone take such a customer? lol.
If CCP wants to be around until Christ returns,and I seriously doubt they will, even if he returns next Spring, they should not F with customers like that.
How serious do you take someone who names themselve something so utterly retarded...? As serious as you do any other paying customer. The problem with this game is that there is no respect. And that is no way to run a business online or not.
If the arguement holds that the name is offensive, as many of the names in Eve probably are to some, then the CUSTOMER should have been given notice and the opportunity to change it themself. But that goes back to the whole respect thing. They take our money and sheeit on our faces. Please, keep taking money, and dropping your Dooks on my face. This game is so sold on eBay.
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Blood Silver
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Posted - 2003.07.30 08:21:00 -
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Edited by: Blood Silver on 30/07/2003 08:21:26 it was offensive to me cause i was the formaly known jesus christ o-O 
we hear your screams and we try to answer them ok... next |

Tabius
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Posted - 2003.07.30 08:26:00 -
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Personally, I would Permenantly Ban anyone with that name.... you're lucky I'm not a GM :)
what a loser....
Get your petty evil kid behind back in pre-school where you belong.
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Macumba
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Posted - 2003.07.30 09:09:00 -
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Maybe they changed it because it was a crap name, not an offensive one.
They should of changed it too "Breast Fed Too Much".
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