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Corey Fumimasa Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance 286	Posted - 2013.04.19 13:01:00 - [1] - Quote I realize this question is tough to pinpoint, its not all one way or the other. 30% I'm flying one of my preferred ships/fits 60% I'm flying something that I'm pretty happy with, but its a pain in one way or the other; MWD instead of AB, or a ship that I'm lower skilled with than my primary racial, or just something that I have to fly back to a staging point to get setup. Still a good fleet and one I'm happy to be in, but I often think 'damn, this would work better with "x", or Ugg this thing is so slow compared to "z". 10% of the time I suck it up and fly something that I would rather not just to fill a slot in the doctrine. Those fleets are rewarding in their own way and its something that over the long term is good to do, but I wouldn't do it more than 10% of fleets. What about you? -áCorebloodbrothers & Ali Aras for CSM: Ring mining & bottom up income, new player balance, NRDS
Angelique Duchemin Serenity Prime Kraken. 467	Posted - 2013.04.19 13:09:00 - [2] - Quote Never. Literally. We miss you Saede.
Corey Fumimasa Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance 286	Posted - 2013.04.19 13:13:00 - [3] - Quote Angelique Duchemin wrote: Never. Literally. I kind of chuckled when I read this. Is this because of your alliance doctrines or are you not actively playing or something? -áCorebloodbrothers & Ali Aras for CSM: Ring mining & bottom up income, new player balance, NRDS
ACE McFACE Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve Hopeless Addiction 1210	Posted - 2013.04.19 13:15:00 - [4] - Quote I like flying most ships, so 80%? You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument!
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance 4612	Posted - 2013.04.19 13:16:00 - [5] - Quote I always fly the doctrine ships with the proper indicated fittings, because only properly fitted doctrine ships are eligible for reimbursement in my corp/alliance, because fleets work best when fittings are homogenous between ships of the same type and role, because the fleet commander needs to know the capabilities of every ship in their fleet in order to be maximally effective, and because the fits we use are debated carefully among many people in my alliance with way more experience than me and therefore mine may not actually be a better fit. Debates and suggestions for new fittings or alterations or even entirely new doctrines are welcome of course and often do lead to change. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix
Karl Hobb Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium 1612	Posted - 2013.04.19 13:41:00 - [6] - Quote I'd say 55% of the time I'm flying what I want to fly because we have no doctrine or I'm flying solo. The rest of the time I'm not in the right ship for the job. Professional bad guys were unfortunately not available so instead they sent me. Voter response is quite good this time around: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qCaz2OlMecY/UWhTTh_NfFI/AAAAAAAAPOE/ryjfQkApycs/s1600/05.jpg
Caviar Liberta Moira. Villore Accords 108	Posted - 2013.04.19 13:52:00 - [7] - Quote Fleet doctrine is fine as long as its defined loose enough to keep people coming to fleet up Shield or Armor, after that you just ask that you have the basics covered ie tackle, support (logi, ecm). As long as you don't try to dictate what exact ship to fly people will be happy with what they fly. When I Fleet up I find out which fleet type it is, frigate/dessie, cruiser, etc then ask if they need logi or dps and fly according to what is needed. So I always show up in a ship I'm more than happy to fly otherwise I wouldn't have taken the time to buy, build and put it where it is needed in the first place.
Tah'ris Khlador Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation 755	Posted - 2013.04.19 13:57:00 - [8] - Quote 90% of the time I fly what I want. 10% of the time I btch about what the other fleet members chose to fly. I'm Denzel Washington.*
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc 355	Posted - 2013.04.19 14:03:00 - [9] - Quote 100% of the time. But eh, I like all the ships we use, and I'm the CEO. It helps I guess. G££ <= Me
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance 4614	Posted - 2013.04.19 14:22:00 - [10] - Quote Caviar Liberta wrote: Fleet doctrine is fine as long as its defined loose enough to keep people coming to fleet up Sure. There's a list of ships that are acceptable to bring (including categories that include multiple ships e.g. ewar, fast tackle, stealth bombers, dictors, HICs, etc.) and fittings that are acceptable for each. For the non-SRP ships there are recommended fittings but people are free to choose their own (and of course they get flamed if their fit is stupid). For the SRP ships the fits are doctrine-specific and mandatory. If you can't fly a properly fitted ship appropriate to that doctrine then you have no business being in that fleet. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Casoff 1019	Posted - 2013.04.19 14:24:00 - [11] - Quote I want to fly what'll help the fleet :(
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 98	Posted - 2013.04.19 14:25:00 - [12] - Quote 90% of my time I fly the Caldari Navy Logistic Support station, it's slow but very comfy. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper.
Caldari 5 The Element Syndicate 57	Posted - 2013.04.19 14:30:00 - [13] - Quote 100% ships that I want to fly, but then I'm mostly a solo player Shield Fleet POS bash? Ergh, Shield Geddon with Sentries Ok? :P Defence fleet, Shield Geddon again with Pulse and Heavies Ok? :P Crazy Caldari/Minmatar Centric Pilots and Fleets
Sexy Cakes Have A Seat 253	Posted - 2013.04.19 14:33:00 - [14] - Quote I'd say probably 50/50. I dislike flying anything below a battlecruiser unless its an assault frig or interdictor for lowsec pvp. A lot of the time people want to fly cheap **** :( Not today spaghetti.
Lady Ayeipsia Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 605	Posted - 2013.04.19 14:36:00 - [15] - Quote Fleet doctrine? Um... Can someone help me out on this concept? I'm a little fuzzy on this. Oh wait... RvB... We simply fly whatever we wish so long as it fits the size requirement for an arranged match and is something we wish to lose.
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Casoff 1019	Posted - 2013.04.19 14:41:00 - [16] - Quote Sexy Cakes wrote: an assault frig or interdictor for lowsec pvp. we need to talk.
baltec1 Bat Country 6033	Posted - 2013.04.19 14:43:00 - [17] - Quote 99%
GallowsCalibrator GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 270	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:26:00 - [18] - Quote baltec1 wrote: 99% Never not flying megathrons.
Dave Stark 2685	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:27:00 - [19] - Quote 100%. retriever, for ever! or, at least until it's reduced to scrap metal.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 3184	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:27:00 - [20] - Quote 30% of the time I fly what the FC tells me to fly. 70% of the time the FC tells us to fly whatever we want to fly. The other 70% of the time I fly the CQ like a boss. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Alec Freeman The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 240	Posted - 2013.04.19 16:43:00 - [21] - Quote Considering im the person who made the majority of my corps fleet doctrines I never seem to have this problem ^^
Angelique Duchemin Serenity Prime Kraken. 471	Posted - 2013.04.19 17:12:00 - [22] - Quote Corey Fumimasa wrote: Angelique Duchemin wrote: Never. Literally. I kind of chuckled when I read this. Is this because of your alliance doctrines or are you not actively playing or something? I joined up as Armour logi. Skilled at it too and the Alliance is 100% shield. I have 9 fully fitted Augorors that just collect dust. Currently training for the Osprey with a T2 fit. But to be fair no logi player can ever get by just by specializing on either of the two. You have to be versatile. And armour fleets will come in time Other than that I don't have a single fit that features weapons. I am a logi/scout pilot so whenever it's time to break out the naga fleet or arty fleet or glass cannon fleet I'm going there as T1 tackle. But I have never been in a fleet I didn't have a good time in so no complaints. We miss you Saede.
Garresh Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 112	Posted - 2013.04.19 17:17:00 - [23] - Quote 100%. I fly solo. This Space Intentionally Left Blank
Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District 362	Posted - 2013.04.19 18:23:00 - [24] - Quote I'm normally happy with everything I am asked to fly, so 90% I am happy with what I'm in and maybe 10% I'm not? My normal FC knows my strengths as a pilot and where he can use them, that's normally the roles I enjoy most as well because I'm good at them. As for fittings I fly what I am told, if they want MWD and not AB then I fly MWD, if they want shield and not armour I fly shield. I'm not going to stop my fleet performing the way it should because I want to fly something which has no place in it. Lieutenant Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Atrocitas 3368	Posted - 2013.04.19 18:30:00 - [25] - Quote I fly what I want 100% of the time. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Corey Fumimasa Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance 286	Posted - 2013.04.19 18:54:00 - [26] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: I fly what I want 100% of the time. -Liang Hey Liang, seems like you have been away for a while. Wb if thats the case. -áCorebloodbrothers & Ali Aras for CSM: Ring mining & bottom up income, new player balance, NRDS
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Atrocitas 3369	Posted - 2013.04.19 18:59:00 - [27] - Quote Corey Fumimasa wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: I fly what I want 100% of the time. -Liang Hey Liang, seems like you have been away for a while. Wb if thats the case. Thanks. I've been spending all my days (and nights) working. :-/ -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Daimon Kaiera 224	Posted - 2013.04.19 19:17:00 - [28] - Quote I want to fly a Tengu 100% of the time. I am not trained for a Tengu. Therefore I never fly what I truly desire. Here by talk start if go able?
War Kitten Panda McLegion 1910	Posted - 2013.04.19 19:30:00 - [29] - Quote Eve-kill says enemy chance of survival is ~7.5% I like to fly something that gets the job done, so I guess 92.5% of the time I'm flying what I want to fly. I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Felicity Love STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate 484	Posted - 2013.04.19 19:36:00 - [30] - Quote Depending on which alt I'm flying, the "like to fly" percentage ranges between 50% and 100%. Fleet alts, usually jump in a logi -- as I have loved those ships since they became part of EVE. Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies"
darmwand Repo. 110	Posted - 2013.04.19 20:34:00 - [31] - Quote 100% stuff I want to fly, mostly solo or tiny gang fights though. darmwand Repossession Agent http://www.repo-corp.net/ Recruitment is OPEN
Sarah Schneider PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 1961	Posted - 2013.04.19 20:48:00 - [32] - Quote I'd say 90% of the time. I fly what I want, if the fleet don't have anything that suits my version of what I want, I don't join that fleet at that time. It's simple. But to be fair, we don't even have CTAs. If that's what you mean. "I'd rather have other players-áget shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Doc Severide Caldari Provisions Caldari State 35	Posted - 2013.04.19 20:50:00 - [33] - Quote Garresh wrote: 100%. I fly solo. This for 3 1/2 years. Quit my last corp when the resident loud mouth was crying about the ship I was flying...
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1234	Posted - 2013.04.19 23:48:00 - [34] - Quote Tah'ris Khlador wrote: 90% of the time I fly what I want. 10% of the time I b*tch about what the other fleet members chose to fly. Shame what you want to fly has cap dependent hardeners an afterburner and T1 plates because you're terrible.
Dheeradj Nurgle Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 345	Posted - 2013.04.20 01:53:00 - [35] - Quote I always fly what I like. Blackbirds, Falcons, and Scorpions. Sup nerds.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 7600	Posted - 2013.04.20 02:44:00 - [36] - Quote A fleet doctrine has a number of ships for every role: DPS, antisupport, logistics, ewar, heavy tackle, fast tackle, and others. If you can't find a role you enjoy, I don't know what to say! mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8
Bruce Kemp Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE 26	Posted - 2013.04.20 03:58:00 - [37] - Quote 100% all the time, No one dictates wtf i fly.
Dread SinJin Dark Energy. 6	Posted - 2013.04.20 04:07:00 - [38] - Quote i fly 100% of what i want. this is due to the fact in not a biological drone for a null FAIL alliance. if i was you id leave because youll never be happy bieng told how,what,when,where to fly
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance 4621	Posted - 2013.04.20 10:54:00 - [39] - Quote Dread SinJin wrote: i fly 100% of what i want. this is due to the fact in not a biological drone for a null FAIL alliance. if i was you id leave because youll never be happy bieng told how,what,when,where to fly lel Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix
Corey Fumimasa Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance 287	Posted - 2013.04.21 18:41:00 - [40] - Quote Angelique Duchemin wrote: I joined up as Armour logi. Skilled at it too and the Alliance is 100% shield. I have 9 fully fitted Augorors that just collect dust. CVA doctrine has both shield and armor. The armor fleets are awesome. I was out last week in a full blown Aug/Guardian under Abaddons, just really impressive to see. Anyway if you want to put those Augoror's to use I'm sure there's a CVA corp that would be willing to sign you on. =-) Slavery is self choosen, only the unclaimed are not free. ...Book of Reclaiming: Hall of the Goat

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