I have no collateral to offe

I currently run 4 exhumer / production characters without Orca Support and I supply about 60% of the mineral cost by mining my own minerals. Which helps keep profits high.

What a brilliant idea!

Dammit....thats where my production profits have been going... I knew I should have mined my own minerals for free

Mining billions of minerals monthly ? That sounds do-able.

What, you mean you are not out mining 23/7/365? It seems I am not the only /fail manufacturer here

Mining billions of minerals monthly ? That sounds do-able.

Dammit....thats where my production profits have been going... I knew I should have mined my own minerals for free

obvious I know but the statement was made because there are other people here asking for loans to cover the cost of minerals to make profit.
With my own mining I can make much more profit then if I was looking for a loan with minerals.
It is a slower start up but once I have bpos in hand with the added support I can make a ton more isk.

That is why you are getting ''a certain type of responses'' .

I think we need an access sign when clicking on MD.

The minerals I mine are free:

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Also seriously when you ask for a loan of 70 PLEX with zero rep or viable BP you are either trolling or stupid. That is why your getting these replies.

So let's take that Noxcium you are mining for 'free'.

Lets imagine you sell it for the price you are using - today's Jita Sell Price of 844 isk.

1822140 * 844 = 1,537,886,160 isk (1.5 billion)

Why don't you save yourself the hassle and just sell that instead?

The tritanium that you mined is another 750 million.

Offer people shares in your new mining business.

Sorry that is just how I run my business, I have slowly built it up to what it is now.
I am just looking for a little help to get it boosted and in before summer patch. As it is prices are going up almost by the day.

What you're failing to understand is that mining your own minerals has no impact on your manufacturing profit. The minerals have value X. The manufactured good has value Y. Assuming Y>X, Y-X = the value you added by building those raw materials into a finished good.

Your mining does absolutely NOTHING to keep manufacturing profits high. It simply supplements manufacturing income with additional, extremely time-consuming mining income.

That you're running 4 exhumers instead of 3 exhumers and an Orca doesn't really fill me with confidence, either.

2 Billion invested on a character whose business plan is making a loss at making things.

I should try this, I'll soon have as much cash as flakeys.

Isk recieved. But not really.

30 BC are much more easy to relocate and when strategically placed can sell in 2-3 days.

So your entire production thing is a devaluation of the minerals you mine...

LOL it is two bil I can make that back in a night.

My isk is never in the red so I am not losing isk by no means.

Yeah, genius, that's because you're generating income from mining. Not exactly a shocker given that it's virtually impossible for anyone to fail to generate income from mining. A blindfolded glass of orange juice could do that.

[quote=Cavalira]Or I could take a "loss" but not really get the isk faster get the needed support characters and bpos and when summer patch hits and everyone wants bc's to up grade to the navy ones they will go up in price and surpass there mineral cost.

It's enough to plex four accounts for multiple months as well as have back up money for the accounts I intend to purchase.

It's enough to plex four accounts for multiple months as well as have back up money for the accounts I intend to purchase.

Okay, and? What do you think this means, exactly?

What it ACTUALLY means is that you spend enough time mining to buy a plex and pocket some excess money.

Congratulations on not completely wiping out all of your mining income with lossy, inefficient production.

Plex four accounts for four months (bought two in one month) have extra plex sitting around and 12 bil wallet how much do you make

To boldly go ...

"Where no capsuleer has gone before"


Polly contact me ingame I have a proposal for you

If you guys have nothing useful to add, please refrain from posting pointless and flaming type responses. thank you.

Ships move faster and I will have some left over and be in a good spot for summer patch. Anyone with researched bp for destroyers and bcs will be swimming in isk.

Didn't you quit eve ages ago aish?

resubbed last month to take a peek but won't be here for long :)

... I am trying to obtain bpos for certain ships before summer patch inflates everything thru the roof...

... Anyone with researched bp for destroyers and bcs will be swimming in isk...
... and when summer patch hits and everyone wants bc's to up grade to the navy ones they will go up in price and surpass there mineral cost ...

I was going to respond with a boring suggestion along the lines of pausing your manufacturing for a little while and selling minerals to buy bpos, but then I caught these snippets:



Would you consider pledging your crystal ball as collateral? Mine does not provide that kind of timely intelligence. I recently bought some researched BC bpos which were priced at a steep discount to NPC price because it is currently not possible to produce BC's at a profit. I am glad to hear that my gamble will pay off after Odyssey hits.

There is a lot of things that hint to prices readjusting.
It might take a little while for things to settle down but you will start to see BC selling for a profit again.
and once that happens and people see it they will try to monopolize on this by inflating prices on things such as bpo and bpc prices .

If you guys have nothing useful to add, please refrain from posting pointless and flaming type responses. thank you.

What system do you mine in?

LOL let me disclose that right here on the open forums and subject my self to gankers and griefers.
I have a potential business partner, in the works some isk is still needed to acquire one orca pilot and one extra miner / production character.

Isk needed to cover would be around 12 billion ISK. Despite all the people who would spend theirs days flaming me I intend to further my isk making potential and continue to look for investors or business partners.
Any further posts that are off subject and I will seek ISD assistance, I have asked for people to stop harassing me if you are not a potential business partner or investor please do not respond and find something better to do with your time.