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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.09.25 16:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Drawing Board
There is easily room for one more battleship for each race so we should add that long coveted third battleship.
how long has this been on the drawing board. is it gonna get off the drawing board and into development anytime soon?
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Buraken v2
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Posted - 2005.09.25 16:56:00 -
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
omg this is the best news like.. evar, better then dreadnaughts, frighters and all that Jazz
BRING IT OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
/me kisses his bs lvl5 skill
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Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
Originally by: TheKiller8
Uh what's stopping you from fitting expanders on a freighter?
No slots?
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.09.25 17:01:00 -
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My guesses are:
Caldari: Rail platform
Gallente: don't care
Amarr: don't care
Minmatar: don't care
 
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Azuriel Talloth
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Posted - 2005.09.25 17:02:00 -
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Don't recall seeing it when I last read the DB, a couple of weeks ago. I think it's a new entry.
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2005.09.25 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa
My guesses are:
Caldari: Rail platform
Gallente: don't care
Amarr: don't care
Minmatar: don't care
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2005.09.25 17:12:00 -
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well the drawing board had comet mining for how long? So add that time to the new entry and + the amount of time it takes to get comet mining and that is when we get tier 3 battleships :)
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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.09.25 17:13:00 -
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Tier2 battlecruisers as well. Just don't make them turn like bricks this time :\. They're not supposed to be battleships, let the agility reflect that.
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Corvus Crax
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:05:00 -
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A battlecruiser based on the real world battlecruiser or pocket battleship, would be fun ;)
Fast as a cruier but with a few battleship size weapons...paper gunsboats? Of course! Fast torpedoboats? You bet! Dead within first few seconds of fleet combat? You guessed it! 
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:10:00 -
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omfg.. wish i could belive it..
Centuria > whoot?
Centuria > you stalking me? :)
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madaluap
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:13:00 -
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i want a sleek sexy looking gallente bs which has special mwd bonus and highbase speed...
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Ravenge
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Crax
A battlecruiser based on the real world battlecruiser or pocket battleship, would be fun ;)
Fast as a cruier but with a few battleship size weapons...paper gunsboats? Of course! Fast torpedoboats? You bet! Dead within first few seconds of fleet combat? You guessed it!
The present BC's are based that way... there was two schools of thought.. the big guns, weak armour (the british way.) or the strong armour, medium guns (the german way.) unfortunatly it was the german way that was the better.. Best example being the Hood.. which was destroyed when a single shell peirced its deck armour and hit the mag.
Having big guns and no tank would make for the british style of BC pointless in Eve.. due to the high DPS and gank set ups that are about.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:40:00 -
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Caldari: Gunship! 8 highslots, 3 missile hardpoints, 6 gun hardpoints, boni to hybrid optimal range & damage!
Gallente: 4:4 Mixed gun & missile ship, armor tank, boni to missile & hybrid damage!
Minmatar: 4 guns, 4 smartbombs, FAST, CPU, shield tank, massive boni to smartbombs damage & energy efficiency.
Amarr: 3 missile hardpoints, 4 guns. One utility highslot. Slow. Drones. Boni to tracking disruptors & warp scrambler range.
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: JoCool
Caldari: Gunship! 8 highslots, 3 missile hardpoints, 6 gun hardpoints, boni to hybrid optimal range & damage!
Gallente: 4:4 Mixed gun & missile ship, armor tank, boni to missile & hybrid damage!
Minmatar: 4 guns, 4 smartbombs, FAST, CPU, shield tank, massive boni to smartbombs damage & energy efficiency.
Amarr: 3 missile hardpoints, 4 guns. One utility highslot. Slow. Drones. Boni to tracking disruptors & warp scrambler range.
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lol smartbomb bonus...
Centuria > whoot?
Centuria > you stalking me? :)
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Azuriel Talloth
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum
Originally by: JoCool
Caldari: Gunship! 8 highslots, 3 missile hardpoints, 6 gun hardpoints, boni to hybrid optimal range & damage!
Gallente: 4:4 Mixed gun & missile ship, armor tank, boni to missile & hybrid damage!
Minmatar: 4 guns, 4 smartbombs, FAST, CPU, shield tank, massive boni to smartbombs damage & energy efficiency.
Amarr: 3 missile hardpoints, 4 guns. One utility highslot. Slow. Drones. Boni to tracking disruptors & warp scrambler range.
^^'
lol smartbomb bonus...
Sounds fun 
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:55:00 -
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Battleship sized Vagabond!!!!11one
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:57:00 -
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Minmatar: 4 guns, 4 smartbombs, FAST, CPU, shield tank, massive boni to smartbombs damage & energy efficiency.
Looks alot like a typhoon except the bonus and shield tanking. I'd say make the new minnie bs a speed boat designed for use with autos (8 turrets maybe?), then adjust the typhoon bonuses abit.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:07:00 -
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if they do this it should be:
Caldari: Rail Platform
H 6 5 turrent 2 launcher
M 5
L 4
bonus to 10% Hybrid Range and 5% Hybrid Damage
Gal: Damper
H: 5 all turrent
M: 6
L: 4
Bonus: 10% bonus to Damper falloff per level, 5% Bonus to Damper stregth per level
Mim: Dedicated Autocannon boat
H: 7 7 turrent 2 missile
M: 3
L: 5
Bonus: 5% ROF bonus, 20% bonus to afterburner effectiveness per level. (essentially make a afterburner work like a MWD at lvl 5 is the goal)
These are how I would see a new lower end BS (high end ones are good enough we don't need even more powerful BS) I would price these at around 40-50M build price
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Idara
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: JoCool
Amarr: 3 missile hardpoints, 4 guns. One utility highslot. Slow. Drones. Boni to tracking disruptors & warp scrambler range.
NO WAY IN HELL
Give the Caldari a railplatform, don't even think about messing with the Amarr like that.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:14:00 -
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Well, it's pretty obvious that Caldari lacks a rail platform and Gallente lacks a proper EW platform. Oh, and it's not very likely it'll be EW falloff, by the way.
To give either Amarr or Gallente a missile abomination is to incite riots.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:33:00 -
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personally, i think it shouldn't be a tier 3 -it should be ANOTHER tier 2 - for around 110-120mil (like the current ones) and balanced to be on par with the current raven,mega,apoc,tempy
that way, if some amarr dnt want drones, or some gallente dnt want a sensor damp ship, or some caldari dnt want to use rails then they dnt have to use that ship, and dnt feel they are missing out on the best BS with the best stats
my ideas:
caldari: a rail platform (following the moa tradition). opt range and tank bonuses
amarr: drones (following arbitrator). nosfer, extra drone bonus. very few midslots (2-3?)- to avoid being uber with EW - the nossies make up for this. less drones than domi.
gallente: sensor dampener (celestis style). damper range, damper strength bonuses
minny: fast, close range AC ship (stabber!). max speed, dmg bonuses
/me waits for the flames to start
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:38:00 -
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good god what is with all the 4:4 slot layouts.. havent we learned from the nightmare/typhoon that those suck ....
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Arabian Goggle
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Idara
Originally by: JoCool
Amarr: 3 missile hardpoints, 4 guns. One utility highslot. Slow. Drones. Boni to tracking disruptors & warp scrambler range.
NO WAY IN HELL
Give the Caldari a railplatform, don't even think about messing with the Amarr like that.
I agree. One of the major reasons I trained Amarr was to use LASERS and get away from missles. I am sick and tired of seeing Amarr ships (Sacrilege) with missle hardpoints. I HATE MISSLES. We need an Amarr ship with turret points and bonuses to damage, or nos, or neutralizers or something useful.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:56:00 -
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If they make another Amarr bs...
It shouldn't be turret oriented, we have the Armageddon.
It shouldn't be tank oriented, we have the Apocalypse.
It should be EW + drone oriented imo. It would be kind of like a Dominix just with less tanking ability.
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Idara
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Posted - 2005.09.25 22:24:00 -
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Then why would you bother? If they give the Amarr Drone BS a better drone controlling ability, the Domi/Gallente people would moan and whine, so it couldn't be better than the Domi, so you'd might as well just get a Domi.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2005.09.25 22:37:00 -
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I think its reasonably safe to say a third Minmatar battleship will be called the Hurricane, given the precedence set by the other two
(hawker aircraft built three fighters during WWII - The Typoon which was known for its use of rockets with its guns, the Tempest which was a fast straight gun fighter and the Hurricane, which was the mainstay of the RAF, it seems too much of a coincidence looking at the ships we have to be not at least a little inspired by it)
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Bruchpilot
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Posted - 2005.09.25 22:46:00 -
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Well I could imagin the Caldari need a Railboat but what about the others? Amarr need a Nos/Neut specialised ship maybe, like the Bahlgorn but there have to be a few drawbacks. Maybe crapy cap and only 6 heavy drones. Gallente need an EW platform, crap speed, 10 drones, 4 turrets. But I can't imagine what Minmatar need. Maybe a fast missileboat with 5-6 launchers (not as powerfull as a Raven) to continue the tradition of the Breacher.
While they are at it they can fix the Phoon. It has to be a longrange ship with 6 turrets a range and a dmg bonus. It needs more meds and less lows/high slots. And maybe Minmatar can get a mid range gun like all other races too?
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Gian Bal
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Posted - 2005.09.25 22:53:00 -
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make this, do that... lets see what tier3 brings, if it comes, of course
what i really dislike are peeps that start what WWII ships were able to do. guys, nobody is interested in!!!
i'm able to travel lightyears in not more than seconds.
if u want to fight in space on a WWII- battlecruiser, pls make sure i'm your opponent first
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.09.25 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm
I think its reasonably safe to say a third Minmatar battleship will be called the Hurricane, given the precedence set by the other two
(hawker aircraft built three fighters during WWII - The Typoon which was known for its use of rockets with its guns, the Tempest which was a fast straight gun fighter and the Hurricane, which was the mainstay of the RAF, it seems too much of a coincidence looking at the ships we have to be not at least a little inspired by it)
I thought Hurricane would be logical since storm names are popular amongst Minmatar ships (typhoon, tempest, cyclone). However the WW2 reference is most informative and appreciated.
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.25 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: JoeSomebody on 25/09/2005 22:56:07
Originally by: Masta Killa
My guesses are:
Caldari: Rail platform
Gallente: don't care
Amarr: don't care
Minmatar: don't care
i second that.
bonuses: 10% hybrids range, 5% shield resist
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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.09.25 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa
My guesses are:
Caldari: Rail platform
Gallente: don't care
Amarr: don't care
Minmatar: don't care
My bet is:
Caldari: Rail boat
Gallente: EW (sensor dampeners)
Amarr: EW (tracking disruptors)
Minmatar: EW (target painters)
Seeeeeee... all the whining about EW for other races and rails for caldari can stop now.
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