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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2005.09.25 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: JarmenKell on 25/09/2005 22:24:05
Edited by: JarmenKell on 25/09/2005 22:23:33
Hello.
nice to see we broke thru the 16k barrier tonight
Well, i got Pretty bored with eve, so i ve started something thats kinda of missing.
and its something i done pretty damn well with my PvP charchter.
We Provide service ei:
*Infiltrate Into Corporations or Alliances to gather intel EI: members list, Pos Location, Use map features like
Corp memebrs in Space
*Get TS or Ventrillo IP+Password if needed.
*Use Covert Ops ships to Spy on your enemy.
And loads more of different Tricks & Methods of Sabotage.
I Barely Started This Today but i will be Dedicated into this work. Put all my effort and game time into it, to make sure all Clients Are Pleased.
As you see the corp count is at 1, thats because my team mates will not be joining the corp but using their alts to infiltrate.
If any One wants to join me, let me know, ur ID will remain anonymous.
oh AND more Girls are needed.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2005.09.25 22:24:00 -
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can you give me a free test, so i can give free pr to you if your successfull? :P
"We brake for nobody"
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2005.09.25 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: JarmenKell on 25/09/2005 22:25:21
 Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
can you give me a free test, so i can give free pr to you if your successfull? :P
and who is your Target?
eve mail it to me of course
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Cyrius Petrowski
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Posted - 2005.09.26 03:21:00 -
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Call me crazy...but I think there might be some legality issues of you obtaining people's TS info and passwords under false pretenses. I'm no lawyer myself, but have seen the fallout of these kind of actions. And quite frankly even if you find this to be a new and fun way to play the game, when you start including peoples r/l assets like voice servers and forums you could find yourself in quite a bit of trouble. I for one certainly hope so!
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.09.26 07:16:00 -
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pretty low way of play the game,,
well well hope u enjoy it tho jarmenkell.. becouse thats what this game is about
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Posted - 2005.09.26 08:21:00 -
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wat a load of crap!
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.09.26 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: JarmenKell
*Get TS or Ventrillo IP+Password if needed.
Are you stupid. 
Originally by: JarmenKell
*Use Covert Ops ships to Spy on your enemy.
Must be stupid, as all corps sort of HAVE THEIR OWN, why trust an outsider.null
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[IAC] Teh best noob corp in the world.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.09.26 10:21:00 -
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I think you missed the point (or I did) - he'll make a corp that makes alts for use in spying.
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.09.26 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla
I think you missed the point (or I did) - he'll make a corp that makes alts for use in spying.
Using an alt to gain OUT OF GAME info, that people have used REAL LIFE MONEY for shud not be allowed, MY POINT that is.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:18:00 -
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How many Guiding Hand Social Club's* do you rate yourselves as? 0.2 maybe?
* Standard EVE measurement for duplicitous deeds.
That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.
-- Ancient "Dirt" Religious figure. |
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:05:00 -
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510 people read this topic, 5 idiots felt its necessary to Flame about it calling me Stupid, and that every corp has its own agents that do that.
iam pretty sure not every one in 0.0 will sit in an agent lvl 3 mission just to get info were targets are, and thats what jarmenkell will be doing, obviously this aint my main at the moment but used to be, i will not do Jobs Against : PA NBSI or SA .
and de not ASK why, i am all ready on my first couple of assignment.
its not Easy work, but resaults are all Ready in. 
sory for those who don t like my Idea, but its just the way it is, so Enjoy.
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Red Adept
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:25:00 -
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JarmenKell,
You are putting your account and corporation at risk by publically posting your desire to maliciously gain access to voice/data servers such as TS or Ventrillo.
You may think it's a game, but you are apparently unaware of the trouble you could get into either in-game (banned) or out of game (the law) if you actually persue "*Get TS or Ventrillo IP+Password if needed."
I worked with a guy who did something he thought at the time was just for fun when he was a kid, and he's got a lifetime felony on his record for it...
The laws in the U.S. are getting stiffer every month on stuff like this.
Take my advise and stay clear of getting in the business of pimping out access information to people's voice servers.
-Red Adept.
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2005.09.27 01:10:00 -
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ok maybe not the comms info, i see your point.
but you won t get banned of the game for giving info of some one on were they are based etc.
there is no law against it. so its not an exploit.
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Aceformat
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Posted - 2005.09.27 03:26:00 -
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The game offers so much in the way of complexity and depth that indeed this sort of procedure has been done countless times before, sometimes on a small scale sometimes on a grand scale, it happens all the time, one guy joins a corp gets decent privilages then rapes everything out of the corp one night and does a runner!
This tactic stated above is very low and dishonest, but it's nothing more than espionage on a game wide scale.
kudos JarmenKell for trying this line of gameplay, although the public announcement won't win you many friends, I'm sure it could be very profitable ISK wise, and alot of effort should see it blossom.
Might give the CEO's of all corps something else to worry about also!!
As for me personally I think this type of gameplay is very dirty and cheap, are you like this in rl?? A backstabber I mean?
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Travel Girl
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Posted - 2005.09.27 05:29:00 -
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This is as illegal or bannable as loging your main while hostiles outnumber you to use an alt to mine, npc or what ever imo. Furthermore this kinda of tactics have already been used in game n noone got banned to my knowledge. I dont like the idea, but that doesnt make it illegal. |
Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.09.27 06:35:00 -
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An ethical spy...
Tisk
Jarmen,
Do both sides....you obviously got love for alliances in the North. And I will tell you right now you are an amature. You will make a name for yourself if you use your main as the spearhead for the venture and work for and against your allies.
Come on man...be an equal oppertunity employer.
Besides...I need to get a spy in JF...I hate them all. Ooops
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.09.27 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Travel Girl
This is as illegal or bannable as loging your main while hostiles outnumber you to use an alt to mine, npc or what ever imo. Furthermore this kinda of tactics have already been used in game n noone got banned to my knowledge. I dont like the idea, but that doesnt make it illegal.
so long it is inside the game.
gaining access to a third party program however is very illegal.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2005.09.27 07:37:00 -
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I think its a good idea, allthought the TS,ventrillo trick is low, and you should not use it.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2005.09.27 10:06:00 -
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yeah i know i got rude of it.
FYI iam not a backstaber in RL. thats my sister.
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:23:00 -
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Spys, alt is ruin this game
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odoso
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Posted - 2005.09.27 18:37:00 -
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I think that this would be good for intel, i.e: who's freinds of who, naps, etc.
If I am an alliance that is accepting a corp into it, I would love any details on that corp. To make sure we are not being infiltrated.
Giving of passwords etc. that is not something I agree with. But informants on the pay.... that is cool.
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Katjia
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Posted - 2005.09.27 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Katjia on 27/09/2005 20:22:42
i like this idea ran something like this with some alts in psychokat scouts and for all you wanna be lawyers out ther if the person manages to get the ip and pass for a ts server it is ussually given to em out of trust...you wouldn't give a stranger a key to your home ...... so all that legal mumbo jumbo is crap... gets flashback to naughty rl days and remembers a term..social engineering ;)
edit: oh yeah and us laws are not the world laws so get over yourselves.
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Katjia
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Posted - 2005.09.27 20:24:00 -
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almost forgot....
US laws are not the worlds laws so get over yourselves...remembers another term ..ethnocentric.
gah spelling is soooo overated.... |
JarmenKell
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Posted - 2005.09.27 21:04:00 -
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british laws could be weird, today i read the papers, and aparently staring at babys in clinics is now banned, and considered a crime against humanity.
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Katjia
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Posted - 2005.09.27 22:03:00 -
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what if it's a really ugly baby.....
gah spelling is soooo overated.... |
odoso
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Posted - 2005.09.27 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: odoso on 27/09/2005 22:04:42
ITS A FREAKING GAME..... 
I know I would not wana be spied on. But I also know that I would like spies on my side.
High Admiral
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2005.09.28 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: odoso
Edited by: odoso on 27/09/2005 22:04:42
ITS A FREAKING GAME.....
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dude, if there was jsut more people like you who understand those 3 words.
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Gwindor
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Posted - 2005.09.28 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: Gwindor on 28/09/2005 02:21:15
This is illegal actually and is proscutable in the usa, im sure that other international business and lawenforcment would also not allow such a thing. Someone mentioned that is isnt the usa. However it doesnt matter, cyber crime in the usa, from over seas is delt with through that goverment or lawenfocrment agency in that country, people have been arrested and tried in other countries for internet crimes aimed at scamming, stealing and handing out peoples information. You also wnt to make sure that the "server info and pass" you take is not actually hosted on a company, that makes it even worse.
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Ethan Tomlinson
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Posted - 2005.09.28 02:47:00 -
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good for the US they are babies....and i live there
oops looks like its quantanamo for me
anyways Jarmen great idea you also may want to use an agent to find people in space. I like this sort of espionage **** especially since ccp said they would implement this into the game and havn't yet...
anyways good luck and i also agree with the outside of game stuff... if you can get away with it go for it...I personally wouldn't because i dont care enough but im sure plenty of people would love that server and in my opinion it is the same as getting a spy into an alliance chat who cares if its in the game or not i think its still the same thing
GL m8
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quellious
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Posted - 2005.09.28 12:01:00 -
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Hi guys,
CCP has already stated that spying is allowed, and this is not thiefing to empty other corp hangars if you are in conflict with them.
I also don't like the idea, but as usual, you know that you might get spyed, you need to adapt.
However, meta gaming is forbidden. According to my understanding you might not spy any IRL information.
Ciao.
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