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Trevedian
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:05:00 -
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I had the winning bid on a Centus X-Type 1260HP Large Armor Repairer yesterday. After the auction, I logged on to find this message...
Barbeque
2005.09.25 22:16:00
Hi,
You can pick up your armor repairer in Agil VI - Moon 2 - Concord Logistic Support.
P.S. I forgot to set up the price for that escrow. It will be cool, if you will transfer 740 mil to this char.
Thank you
I quickly snatched up the rep... Then I got this message...
Barbeque;
2005.09.25 23:48:00
I see that you already pick up an escrow... Sad that you didn't transfer money for the item you won. I was honest to you...
I'm just curious how other people would handle this. He made the mistake and forgot to put a price on the escrow... If I did the same I wouldn't expect 1 isk back.
My corpmates urged me to pay him something, so I sent him 740 isk. Is that fair? I'd like to hear your suggestions.
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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nightjackel
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:16:00 -
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Man, thats a tough call. On one hand you want to seem like a cool guy. But on the other He did enter the item with out double checking. HUMM..... Well 
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:18:00 -
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You bid at an auction and agreed to pay for the item, his mistake was in not utilising a game mechanic to make you pay. By not paying him it is saying you cannot be trusted in business unless there is a game mechanic to force you to keep your word. But hey you play a pirate so gaining ISK is what your char is about.
Personally I would pay.
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Ashraaf
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ashraaf on 26/09/2005 14:22:36
Edited by: Ashraaf on 26/09/2005 14:22:04
i said it's up to you
he does a mistake and lose a good item and lot of money
740 isk i think it's insulting,
i would prefer an answer that it's your mistake so pay for it and no money than
you could give him all the money, the starting bid, nothing, a part you find fair
but it's a game, i'm not sure add to the faulty is "fair game"
The fact of a winning auction mean that it's a trust between you and him. And could said your not to be trust could be a part in your decision
All i could said, it's up to you. What you'll be considering as fair or faulty
P.S. If you think my advice is good for you, please give me his name, i could ask him 10% of the money after you give him 740M. ;) (Joking)
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:22:00 -
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I check 3 times to make sure I'm asking for the right amount from the escrow, he should have been more diligent imo 
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Afillia Holmes
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:23:00 -
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I'm sure 740 isk will do just fine Trev...dont worry about it.
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FooB2
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:41:00 -
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i think you should make him pay you 740 mil, and then take it and kick him in the nuts.
but seriously, if i did that same mistake and put an escrow up for free, you know you would sieze the chance to take something for free, wether it be 1 trit or dreadnaught. and all i would get back is "its your fault, check your escrow next time dumbass".
thats exactly what people say to others who pay 112 million for that unit of megacyte, because they simply didnt check it. and i dont see any difference in this case. everyone should know well by now that everything done on escrow should be checked, twice or thrice, just to make sure its exactly what its meant to be.
he's not untrustworthy at all, hes just like 99% of all other eve players out there.
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:47:00 -
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its the pirate way.. to steal and plunder.. i whould do the same
Centuria > whoot?
Centuria > you stalking me? :)
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Firstname Lastname
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:48:00 -
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It's mean but hey, he should've checked, especially with something that valuable. I remember selling a guy an armageddon once for 100 mil because I said I 'made a typo and would pay him back 30m after he claimed it'. Stupidity should be punished, and this is one of those occasions where you actually can punish for it.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:48:00 -
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I'd pay the guy the agreed price to be honest. Its just a game and isk is nothing compared to being a nice guy and doing the decent thing. Never know whats going to happen in the future and you might as well be straight with people.
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Domalais
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:59:00 -
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I would pay. It would be one thing if you found a 0 isk escrow on market and bought it, but in this case you agreed to pay and now you aren't.
No different from podding after ransom has been paid.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: Deja Thoris on 26/09/2005 15:00:34
Pay the price agreed in the auction.
I mean, the day firstname lastname takes a side on an issue, you know the opposite way is the right and acceptable thing.
Having said that, the guy who put the auction up is a dumbass
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:05:00 -
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lol thats some pwnage right there.
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Yarek Balear
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:07:00 -
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Hmmmm, number of options here...
Honourable = Pay the man his isk
Pirate that doesn't care = keep the item
Evil = seek him out and pod him for the cheek of asking for his isk back...
The choice is yours, but people's opinions on you are formed according to your actions - it just depends the value you place on being held in high regard...
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Majir Kry
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:13:00 -
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The seller should of just closed the escrow and started again instead of mailing the winning bidder about he mistake.
Having said that you agreed a fee and now you are refusing to pay it - You may find yourself blacklisted by some corps/players in future auctions.
I would pay, but only because I would want to use the uactions again and wouldnt want to miss out on an item I have been looking for because someone remembered i didnt pay once.
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cheru
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Hans Roaming
You bid at an auction and agreed to pay for the item, his mistake was in not utilising a game mechanic to make you pay. By not paying him it is saying you cannot be trusted in business unless there is a game mechanic to force you to keep your word. But hey you play a pirate so gaining ISK is what your char is about.
Personally I would pay.
^ What he said. But I would ask for a "finder's reward".
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Meow Meow
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:17:00 -
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A tough call maybe but I've got to go with "it's their own stupid fault" as they made three key mistakes.
1 They dealt with a pirate
2 They forgot to set price
3 They were stuppid enough to tell you that they'd set up the escrow for free (something that's only setup specifically for a character ingame and they told you to go looking for it)  otherwise you wouldn't have even thought to have gone looking for it...
The odds are stacked against..
The only thing that might sway it is if you want to do business again... THAT'S ALL!!!! 
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Suladriel
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:32:00 -
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The carebear in me says I would pay him the money. 
The pirate in me says, tough, his fault for not setting the price on escrow.
One thing for sure, I don't think many people will trust you from now on.
I'm not famous, nor infamous.
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Ashraaf
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:38:00 -
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Suladriel i think he could be trusted but never let your eyes far away from him 
More that Trev asking for advice maybe he found that's not an easy answer to pay not pay.
Keep info about your decision
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Weebear
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:52:00 -
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Tell him he forgot to restrict the name as well, and demand compensation 
Seriously though the agreement was there before the accident with Escrow, so you should pay the person.
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Zeromancer
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:53:00 -
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wouldn't have expected anyting but a insult from a person like you trev, if i had done the same.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:01:00 -
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ur name is a recognised and probably respected name on the EVE forums, he may have just trusted you.. id pay him the isk.
d solo.
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Trevedian on 26/09/2005 16:02:42
Originally by: Majir Kry
The seller should of just closed the escrow and started again instead of mailing the winning bidder about he mistake.
Having said that you agreed a fee and now you are refusing to pay it - You may find yourself blacklisted by some corps/players in future auctions.
I would pay, but only because I would want to use the uactions again and wouldnt want to miss out on an item I have been looking for because someone remembered i didnt pay once.
He couldn't cancel the escrow because it was tied to my name for 7 days... Barbeque needed to wait until the escrow expired.
If I knew Barbeque it would be a different story, but I don't so f*** him... Besides, I sent him 740 isk (which I didn't need to send anything). So really all he is losing is 90 isk, (Cost him 850 to make the escrow).
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Ashraaf
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ashraaf on 26/09/2005 16:09:15
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He couldn't cancel the escrow because it was tied to my name for 7 days... Barbeque needed to wait until the escrow expired.
He mail you that you could have your item, he is honest and assume that you're honest too
He could have wait and pray you don't check, and do it in one week with the money checked
that change a lot in the process
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:07:00 -
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Lol Trev, if I didn't know the guy I'd bloody well keep it and not give him squat
Originally by: James Lyrus
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:07:00 -
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well then.. not that I have the isk to throw around on items like this, but I don't know what's I'd do.
If I did plan on paying him it'd be at a discount price for "all the trouble" .
Tbh it's someone you don't know, and don't have to deal with again if you choose not to. It's all down to your in-game morals (I say in-game becasue I've decided that IGMorals and OOGMorals arn't the same).
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Sirilius
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:09:00 -
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Reminds me the time when Neon bought a 30km scambler for a 1 isk. If Trevs pays then I would have to demand a 1bill of the nubber cause the sad truth is, its the person who setted up the escrow who is at fault. Not too much different from PVP, you make a nub mistake you die and lose iskies, here you lose isk without the cool PvP funz0r.
Anyway, I'm broke.. wts Sirilius!
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:11:00 -
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Pay.
I might be ebil, but I am always good to my word.
A deal is a deal.
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Refinierre
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:11:00 -
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The title of this thread should be changed to WWCD versus WWPD... (What Would Carebears Do VERSUS What Would Pirates Do)
Its plain to see the dichotomy between how they approach things...
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Trevedian
If I knew Barbeque it would be a different story, but I don't so f*** him... Besides, I sent him 740 isk (which I didn't need to send anything). So really all he is losing is 90 isk, (Cost him 850 to make the escrow).
This isn't a flame but you now have publicly demonstrated your trustworthiness in business that does not have a game mechanic to force you to keep you to your agreement.
Saved you a few ISK, but will it cost you more in the future?
Outreach Executive
Huzzah Foreign Affairs
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