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Octoven
Phoenix Productions
Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:05:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Hmm, new probe system, looks like it has been dumbed down to me.
As a vet player you WOULD say that. Compared to the original probe system, the current one is dumbed down too. At the end of the day it comes down to ease of use. Id rather have the new system and spend less time scanning, which equals more profit then to keep the current one which, yes is more complex, but time consuming as well.
The other side of this is ensuring you dont need lvl 4 skills in scanning just to find something inside 5 minutes. This will definitely help newer players who need tutorials and still training time to utilize the archaic scanning system that hasnt changed since 2009.
As CCP mentioned multiple times at fanfest, they want to make game play more intuitive and less like work. We players play the game to enjoy it, not have a literal second job. 80% of new player scanning time is consumed in just setting up the damn probes.
As for the stargates....not sure how that will work out tbh. I doubt they will ever connect to w-space. It is possible they may allow connections to jove and colonize it; however, the bigger question is how to get there? Right now if you want to get to another system you use a stargate or a wh, short of them introducing wh in jove or wh in a new cluster....you cant really get the materials to the new system to build a gate. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
3288
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Posted - 2013.04.26 21:52:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Also, the interesting part isn't stargate construction GÇö it's what's required to make it a valuable addition: stargate destruction.
^this
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
2135
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Posted - 2013.04.26 21:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Lin Gi'Do wrote:or jove space, or back to Earth? Who knows. Jove space sounds more liklely, since they've said that they're going to open up that part of space.
I think it would be rather anti-climactic and a waste of resources if it was just Jove space. Jove space isn't all that big. It's one more region. If they are going to put all the effort in to make this awesome new feature of making stargates, which will likely have limited ranges, which would make them only useable by a small portion of EVE if allowed only to connect to Jove space, then it would just be a waste. My guess would be a large number of new systems placed into the game that can only be accessed by the players building gates and making their own paths through the new universe of systems. These will obviously be 0.0 additions. Maybe the counterpart to the new WH additions.
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Muscaat
EVE Markets
40
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Posted - 2013.04.26 22:14:00 -
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Tank Talbot wrote:The new hacking GÇ£mini-gameGÇ¥ left me puzzled because it didnGÇÖt look like the DEV hurricane was mounting hacking modules. It could have just been a lousy stream for me though.
Soundwave did heavily caveat that part of the demo with "it won't look like this", and there were plenty of dev hacks involved too, so I wouldn't put too much weight on exactly what was shown there. |
Solaris Ecladia
High Flyers
Unclaimed.
58
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Posted - 2013.04.27 01:13:00 -
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Arcosian wrote:Trendon Evenstar wrote:Arcosian wrote:My question is assuming stargates are going to make titans look like a cheap frig in terms of cost why would any alliance want to foot the bill so everyone else can use it? It would have to lead to great rewards and only be accessible by the alliance, who would have the resources to do such a thing?  That's kinda my point. If any alliance is able to construct the first stargates and get a foot hold into jove space it would be almost impossible to take it from them with gates being inaccessible to everyone else. I'm just guessing here but it seems like the only way in would be destroying the gate and building a new one which one can only guess how long and expensive a process that would be or hacking(?) the gate with the new code-breaker system. Assuming one can hack the gate it would only buy a few mins(?) before a fleet could move through so at best it would just slow them down a bit.
because absolutly no systems anywhere have more than 1 gate right? |
Sethose Olderon
Honourable Company of Gentlemen
19
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:14:00 -
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Arcosian wrote:My question is assuming stargates are going to make titans look like a cheap frig in terms of cost why would any alliance want to foot the bill so everyone else can use it?
Perhaps if the owner(s) were to allow others usage, you could charge fees for the privilege, which could equate to a large chunk of change. Especially so if the stargate was in a system on a trade route, or just simply a popular system.
It could even be possible to charge an exorbitant amount as a disincentive, but still catch the occasional idiot, or border-line alcoholic.
In the end it's a good idea, it's gives players more things to build and destroy. Less NPC, more Player Freedom.
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
Solar Assault Fleet
465
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:20:00 -
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Seagull invited the audience to dream.
And "Colonisation" was one possible theme for the future.
I'd say that it's a better dream than playing with barbies, but still a dream.
What was interesting in Seagull's "look to the future" was that while sticking to 6 month expansions, they also keep longer targets.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
231
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:34:00 -
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Which panel was this? For those of us who have been working this weekend and don't have the HD live stream 24/7. |
Mara Tessidar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
853
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:35:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Also, the interesting part isn't stargate construction GÇö it's what's required to make it a valuable addition: stargate destruction. If all you can do is build new ones, it'll be a one-time thingGǪ 
x for outpost destruction 
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
Solar Assault Fleet
465
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:39:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Which panel was this? For those of us who have been working this weekend and don't have the HD live stream 24/7.
EvE past, present and future.
The "Colonisation" part is as can be guessed at the end of it ...
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
232
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Posted - 2013.04.27 09:45:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:Which panel was this? For those of us who have been working this weekend and don't have the HD live stream 24/7. EvE past, present and future. The "Colonisation" part is as can be guessed at the end of it ...
I don't see it on the Twitch TV list, was it in the last 24 hours? |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
Solar Assault Fleet
465
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Posted - 2013.04.27 10:10:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:Which panel was this? For those of us who have been working this weekend and don't have the HD live stream 24/7. EvE past, present and future. The "Colonisation" part is as can be guessed at the end of it ... I don't see it on the Twitch TV list, was it in the last 24 hours?
http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2208288
Around 1:25 ish, Seagull/Andie dreams of the future.
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Steve Spooner
Mordu's Military Industrial Command
Circle-Of-Two
47
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Posted - 2013.04.27 11:05:00 -
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No more pestering titan pilots for bridges? :3 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4739
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Posted - 2013.04.27 11:05:00 -
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Steve Spooner wrote:No more pestering titan pilots for bridges? :3
I'm sure there will still be plenty of that.
Module activation timers are buggy. CCP please fix. |
Alyxportur
The Inf1dels
Insidious Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.06.15 17:50:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:I'd say new systems, so EVE can grow indefinitely.
Allowing stargate foundations to be anchored on wormholes (only ones with WH space C1 to C5, not the direct WHs) and then the necessary 'upgrades' dumped in (like what you do for a nullsec outpost) before downtime = creating new space. Of course, whenever a wormhole is 'taken out of commission' like that, it would be replaced by an identical one.
So.... anyone with poses anchored in the previous wormhole would now live in the same nullsec region as the alliance who founded the stargate..... That would necessitate the creation of some sort of anti-foundry things that people could anchor in wormholes (similar to TCUs) so that unless those AFTs are absent or killed, the wormhole can't be founded into a stargate. |
Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
423
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Posted - 2013.06.15 17:58:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:I'd say new systems, so EVE can grow indefinitely.
I think you're on to something...
Yarr |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4270
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:38:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Abrazzar wrote:I'd say new systems, so EVE can grow indefinitely. I think you're on to something...
But then every Tom, ****, and Harry would be able to create their own system if they aren't careful.
I really don't want to stumble across a Star Gate that leads to "Bobs Hole". 
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Allus Nova
Blitzkrieg.
Insidious Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:10:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:to wormholes? to Jove space? to new systems? to Earth in the EVEGATE?!?!?!?!
I would love to see WH space be made into normal space though construction of a stargate on either ends of the WH. Material costs could be HUGE (say 2x station cost perhaps?) and it would cost on both sides of the gate, but it would allow for an infinitely expanding Eve area...it would be epic.
Have the sleepers just move, or make them even lower trusec systems with sleeper rats and sites. Would love to see some -1.1 to -1.9 systems. Make PvE Fleet warfare relevant beyond incursions. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2499
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:27:00 -
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...sure stargate construction. Why not. Just like 7 years ago when they said we'd be walking in stations someday. SoonGäó 
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Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
393
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:47:00 -
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Allus Nova wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:to wormholes? to Jove space? to new systems? to Earth in the EVEGATE?!?!?!?! I would love to see WH space be made into normal space though construction of a stargate on either ends of the WH. Material costs could be HUGE (say 2x station cost perhaps?) and it would cost on both sides of the gate, but it would allow for an infinitely expanding Eve area...it would be epic. Have the sleepers just move, or make them even lower trusec systems with sleeper rats and sites. Would love to see some -1.1 to -1.9 systems. Make PvE Fleet warfare relevant beyond incursions.
Hell no, get away from my wspace.
Create new regions for the stargate construction yes. It can easily be spun as "new regions" have been found and the empires are set to expand. |
Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
423
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:51:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Lugia3 wrote:Abrazzar wrote:I'd say new systems, so EVE can grow indefinitely. I think you're on to something... But then every Tom, ****, and Harry would be able to create their own system if they aren't careful. I really don't want to stumble across a Star Gate that leads to "Bobs Hole".
Stargates could take a massive amount of materials to construct, around on par with a station. Additionally, it could lead to a randomly generated system that is pre-named by CCP's old system naming algorithm. With such a large cost, it could be somewhat of a big event when a new system is opened. Regions/constelations would be formed by an algorithm speading out from a new system.
Lets just hope that someday someone will open a gate to "Jita-Jita Prime"
Yarr |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1634
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:54:00 -
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Glad this content rich thread was necro'd.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
477
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Posted - 2013.06.15 21:00:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:to wormholes? to Jove space? to new systems? to Earth in the EVEGATE?!?!?!?!
And after the jump to Earth....
The New Eden Ambassador, Savior of Highsec, James 315 meets with the Earth Ambassador from Star Trek Online, ConstantineGrey aka desmonpark, to iron out the gate travel arrangements between our galaxies.
ConstantineGrey was last seen on May 13th appearing in a Miner Bumping article, vowing never to return to New Eden.
How will the negotiations fair?
To be continued...
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