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Isparian
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Posted - 2005.09.27 16:28:00 -
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I looked thourgh the boards - and all suggestions about Kestrels are abuot 2 patches old.
How they work now? ... missile boats any good now?
I'm fairly new to EVE - so looking for some info how to set up the ship.
Learning by own mistakes is fun, but too expensive fun for me atm. :/ :)
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2005.09.27 16:51:00 -
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my complex runing setup (1/10)
hight:
4xrocket lauchers
med: ab, sb, cap reacharger
low:2x nanofiber
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Isparian
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Posted - 2005.09.27 16:55:00 -
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what that (1/10) means? .... some paramater about hte complecses?
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2005.09.27 16:58:00 -
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It's the difficulty level. 1/10 is the easiest, 10/10 is the hardest.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2005.09.27 16:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Isparian
what that (1/10) means? .... some paramater about hte complecses?
its complexes place to kill rats and find rare bpc
u can find complexes list here:
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Karthik
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:02:00 -
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Perfect boat for most Level1 combat missions.
There is another thread (in these forums?) that dicusses their setups, and the main complaint is the inability to load four missile launchers simultaneously with low skills. I have never had that issue. I am currently running nothing fancy:
4* Standard Missile Launcher I
Small Shield Booster
2* Power Diagnostic systems (increase four different ship stats by 3 to 7%)
I load Sabretooths in two and Bloodclaws in the other two. All targets get two missiles (one of each) until I learn what they can take. There is a fair amount of kiting involved with multiple targets (and since I don't mount an AB, you have to be careful) but targets drop quick.
You really need decent skills to fly a Kestrel adequately to offset the weaknesses. I will be finished with Weapon Upgrades 3 tonight and this should allow me to change my setup a bit, my pertinent missile skills are all 3, and the basics (Engineering, Electronics, Navigation, etc.) are all 3 as well.
I also use the Kestrel to rat in low sec space, and I was able to take down 50K rats without issue. This was BEFORE the recent AI patch, so I suggest you start smaller before you try it. The biggest issue I have with her (and my current skills) is top speed. For courier type missions I use a Condor with AB; for Mining I have a Bantam fitted out to mine, and for combat I use the Kestrel. Right tool for the right job :).
Lastly, don't use them for Level2 missions. Upgrade to a cruiser, and if you are following the Caldari path, missiles are a valid option. Up your skill points in the missile tree and buy a Caracal. This avoids hybrid turrets entirely and allows you to devote more skill points to less weapons (and to other side skills that are directly relevant to the ship you are piloting).
Start small, practice, and good luck.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 27/09/2005 17:07:00
4 x rocket launchers (bet nameds you can fit)
1x afterburner, 1x small shield booster, 1x 'ew mod' (tracking disruptors work pretty well vs. cruisers)
1x ballistic control 1x nanofiber
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Antic
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:11:00 -
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anyone got a decent PVP setup for the kestrel now after all the patches?
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Antic
anyone got a decent PVP setup for the kestrel now after all the patches?
hmm
4xrocket arbs
1xmwd 1x web 1x scrambler
2x nanofiber?
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Antic
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
hmm
4xrocket arbs
1xmwd 1x web 1x scrambler
2x nanofiber?
hmm how will the cap hold on that one?
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:25:00 -
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Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 27/09/2005 17:28:01
Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 27/09/2005 17:27:31
Originally by: Antic
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
hmm
4xrocket arbs
1xmwd 1x web 1x scrambler
2x nanofiber?
hmm how will the cap hold on that one?
not for long :P
how this?
hight 4xrocket
med: mwd, scrambler, small capacitor battery II
low:capacitor power relay II
or
hight same
med: mwd , small sb II , scrambler
edited low: hmm dont know :P
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Antic
anyone got a decent PVP setup for the kestrel now after all the patches?
hmm
4xrocket arbs
1xmwd 1x web 1x scrambler
2x nanofiber?
If you've the CPU for it, drop the nanos in favor of ballistic controls.
Depending on what you're going after, you may want to swap the web for a tracking disruptor or remote dampener.
(and as ever, best mods you can afford to lose :))
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Antic
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:47:00 -
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Is teh MWD really a good idea over an AB? considering that you get the sig radius of a small moon while using it :P
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2005.09.27 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Karthik
Perfect boat for most Level1 combat missions.
There is another thread (in these forums?) that dicusses their setups, and the main complaint is the inability to load four missile launchers simultaneously with low skills. I have never had that issue. I am currently running nothing fancy:
4* Standard Missile Launcher I
Small Shield Booster
2* Power Diagnostic systems (increase four different ship stats by 3 to 7%)
So you mean leaving 2 midslots empty is good? You are really gimping yourself a lot with that.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2005.09.27 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
Originally by: Karthik
Perfect boat for most Level1 combat missions.
There is another thread (in these forums?) that dicusses their setups, and the main complaint is the inability to load four missile launchers simultaneously with low skills. I have never had that issue. I am currently running nothing fancy:
4* Standard Missile Launcher I
Small Shield Booster
2* Power Diagnostic systems (increase four different ship stats by 3 to 7%)
So you mean leaving 2 midslots empty is good? You are really gimping yourself a lot with that.
i think its wery hard to put somethink more on this setup
but i think i low will be better mirco aux power core and sb in med
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Isparian
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Posted - 2005.09.28 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Karthik
Perfect boat for most Level1 combat missions.
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Lastly, don't use them for Level2 missions. Upgrade to a cruiser, and if you are following the Caldari path, missiles are a valid option. Up your skill points in the missile tree and buy a Caracal. This avoids hybrid turrets entirely and allows you to devote more skill points to less weapons (and to other side skills that are directly relevant to the ship you are piloting).
Start small, practice, and good luck.
About the lvl2 missions (assuming you mean lvl2 Agent missions) - that's what I'm after ...
ATM I'm flying Merlin with 150mms and 2 launchers, shield booster, and warp core stabilizer (and some other modules (armor&hull repairs?!)
Anyhow - I CAN do lvl2 agent missions in it (done 3 so far) ... biggest baddy I've taken out was 56K bounty pirate (for some reason my missiles wouldnt hit him at more than 16K away - so had to orbit him at that distance to hit (rails alone were not beating his armor repair speed ;) ... so if I'm careful - I'm fine
I was just wondering - if Kestrel would allow me to complete those mish faster and safer.
(as for the cruiser - I'm still ways off on cash for that .. not to mention outfitting it so I dont loose it in the first battle)
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2005.09.28 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Isparian
Originally by: Karthik
Perfect boat for most Level1 combat missions.
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Lastly, don't use them for Level2 missions. Upgrade to a cruiser, and if you are following the Caldari path, missiles are a valid option. Up your skill points in the missile tree and buy a Caracal. This avoids hybrid turrets entirely and allows you to devote more skill points to less weapons (and to other side skills that are directly relevant to the ship you are piloting).
Start small, practice, and good luck.
About the lvl2 missions (assuming you mean lvl2 Agent missions) - that's what I'm after ...
ATM I'm flying Merlin with 150mms and 2 launchers, shield booster, and warp core stabilizer (and some other modules (armor&hull repairs?!)
Anyhow - I CAN do lvl2 agent missions in it (done 3 so far) ... biggest baddy I've taken out was 56K bounty pirate (for some reason my missiles wouldnt hit him at more than 16K away - so had to orbit him at that distance to hit (rails alone were not beating his armor repair speed ;) ... so if I'm careful - I'm fine
I was just wondering - if Kestrel would allow me to complete those mish faster and safer.
(as for the cruiser - I'm still ways off on cash for that .. not to mention outfitting it so I dont loose it in the first battle)
dude fastest way to make lvl2 kill is caracal
5xassault
ab,sb,2xpasive shield hardeners ( kin, thermic)
low: 2xbalistic
just join my corp and i will biuld this ship for u :P
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Greyshadow
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:09:00 -
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Ok my kestrel setup
High
4 x Rocket Launchers (named if possible)
Med
1 x Afterburner (once again named if pos)
1 x Shield Booster T1 (T2 if you have the skill)
1 x Cap Booster I (with 50's)
Low
Ballistic Control
Cap Power Relay
The lows are pretty flexible, although would recommend something to help your cap, find this setup manages to sustain my shields while taking on 0.5 rats although I use a named Shield Booster T2
Hope that helps
"Everybody is a winner baby thats the truth, well apart from the losers who lose obviously" |
LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:10:00 -
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ebil inty killer:
4x rocket
scram, 2x web
400mm plate, mapc
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
ebil inty killer:
4x rocket
scram, 2x web
400mm plate, mapc
Thats a nasty setup. But you have to time the webifiers well, you wont win if you get a blaster taranis to close 
You wont win against my claw with its current setup either, I can tank that damage quite a long time.
For level 2 missions, I would use this setup:
4 * rockets
ab, shield booster, kinetic passive hardener
2 * pdu
Not sure its enough for the harder ones, like informant unless you have gistii ab and gistii shield booster, but its the best I can think of.
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Indigo Callypso
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:43:00 -
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Lukec said: ebil inty killer:
4x rocket
scram, 2x web
400mm plate, mapc
Could you explain, in detail, why two webbers. Sorry, I am a noob. Is it you need the slow down power of two or do you have to time them so there is never a gap in the webbing?
Thanks
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Indigo Callypso
Lukec said: ebil inty killer:
4x rocket
scram, 2x web
400mm plate, mapc
Could you explain, in detail, why two webbers. Sorry, I am a noob. Is it you need the slow down power of two or do you have to time them so there is never a gap in the webbing?
Thanks
cos in this setup is no ab/mwd and to keep white inty will be posible only duoble webed it
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Greyshadow
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Posted - 2005.09.28 17:34:00 -
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This needs to be put on the setups thats a sticky as its the most up to date one.
"Everybody is a winner baby thats the truth, well apart from the losers who lose obviously" |
wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2005.09.28 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 28/09/2005 20:36:03
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Originally by: LUKEC
ebil inty killer:
4x rocket
scram, 2x web
400mm plate, mapc
Thats a nasty setup. But you have to time the webifiers well, you wont win if you get a blaster taranis to close
You wont win against my claw with its current setup either, I can tank that damage quite a long time.
For level 2 missions, I would use this setup:
4 * rockets
ab, shield booster, kinetic passive hardener
2 * pdu
Not sure its enough for the harder ones, like informant unless you have gistii ab and gistii shield booster, but its the best I can think of.
why pdu in low? its not make big diferense in so small ship
i think 1x balistic 1x nanofiber can work better
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.09.28 21:48:00 -
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i use a ballistic and 100mm nanofiber plate
just wait till the mk2 - i will be able to fit 2 BCUs, and still go faster 
and this is the first kes setup thread in a LONG time where no-one has mentioned standard launchers! \o/
progress at last...
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.09.28 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 28/09/2005 21:49:36
no, wait. this guy did.
ah well, he left 2 mids empty. shows how much he knows
nt to mention that he is fitting sabretooths to his kes. on caldari lvl1s. against guristas. 
nuff said
Originally by: Karthik
Perfect boat for most Level1 combat missions.
There is another thread (in these forums?) that dicusses their setups, and the main complaint is the inability to load four missile launchers simultaneously with low skills. I have never had that issue. I am currently running nothing fancy:
4* Standard Missile Launcher I
Small Shield Booster
2* Power Diagnostic systems (increase four different ship stats by 3 to 7%)
I load Sabretooths in two and Bloodclaws in the other two. All targets get two missiles (one of each) until I learn what they can take. There is a fair amount of kiting involved with multiple targets (and since I don't mount an AB, you have to be careful) but targets drop quick.
You really need decent skills to fly a Kestrel adequately to offset the weaknesses. I will be finished with Weapon Upgrades 3 tonight and this should allow me to change my setup a bit, my pertinent missile skills are all 3, and the basics (Engineering, Electronics, Navigation, etc.) are all 3 as well.
I also use the Kestrel to rat in low sec space, and I was able to take down 50K rats without issue. This was BEFORE the recent AI patch, so I suggest you start smaller before you try it. The biggest issue I have with her (and my current skills) is top speed. For courier type missions I use a Condor with AB; for Mining I have a Bantam fitted out to mine, and for combat I use the Kestrel. Right tool for the right job :).
Lastly, don't use them for Level2 missions. Upgrade to a cruiser, and if you are following the Caldari path, missiles are a valid option. Up your skill points in the missile tree and buy a Caracal. This avoids hybrid turrets entirely and allows you to devote more skill points to less weapons (and to other side skills that are directly relevant to the ship you are piloting).
Start small, practice, and good luck.
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Antic
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Posted - 2005.09.28 21:51:00 -
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what do you use in mids hippo?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.09.28 21:53:00 -
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There is a single kestrel setup that can kill any inty or AF in EVE with lots of luck and tons of skill. Naphtalia taught me this, and while I personally haven't used it much, I have seen it wreck countless ships that cost 20 times as much.
4xrocket (the better named the better, II is best)
2xweb, 1xdisruptor
1x400mm plate, 1xMAPC
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.09.28 22:00:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 28/09/2005 22:01:00
Originally by: Antic
what do you use in mids hippo?
a combination of AB, warp scram, web and tracking disrupt for PvP
this obv depends on what i'm fighting. with a web i have taken down inties.
with a tracking disruptor, u can be almost impossible to hit to a lot of ppl
for PvE, i dnt fly a kes, but u can't go wrong by adding an extra cap recharger (real easy to fit - specially the low end named ones)
i would definitely add an afterburner
a passive hardener for the NPCs you are fighting is a good move as well (kinetic for guristas)
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Xianthar
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Posted - 2005.09.29 04:41:00 -
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if you wanna hunt inties use
4 x rocket tech II
2 x webbers 1 x scram
1 x 400MM tung plate 1 x MAPC
that requires eng 5, elec 5, and weapon upgrades 5.....and thats
with a 7.5km scram....but that should be enough with the 2 x webbers on board.....you'll spew rockets like crazy and have over 1000 armor :) if you must have a 20km scram, drop down to named launchers and it will fit.
for PvE/bad fitting skills use one of the MWD variants already listed....
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