WTB corporate LP tax

Doesn't make any sense that you call it warfare when all you have to do is just run from the opposite faction and then come back when they leave and dplex down any progress they made.

How about a 1 ship per faction max in novices so we could get some 1 on 1 pvp

Timer rollback to starting state when no-one is in the plex.
In order for the timer to run, a ship of the maximum size allowed in the plex needs to be there.

Do all of us agree on what FW should look like? No.

Does the name Factional Warfare imply fighting occurs? Yes.

Is the "Warfare" the main theme in Factional Warfare? No.


So CCP, read some ideas and choose to do something, who cares if you please everyone. Fact of the matter is you look like scared children afraid of losing subscriptions instead of the awesome juggernauts in the PVP MMO industry you used to be. Stop waiting for something like Dust to help, stop worrying that it won't work right and it might get exploited. DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT ALREADY!

Been playing 10 years. I get it that you believe in making your decisions more carefully now than you used to, but damn. We shouldn't have to wait 2 years for things like this to be fixed because you gotta figure out how to please everyone.


What stupid new thing you doing this next patch? More exploration? Really?!?! Damn, can we get more boring than that? Maybe change the name to PVE online instead of EVE online.

WAKE UP CCP!

Maybe they are doing something. They know they Cant please everyone. Did you ever think maybe you are one of the people they decided not to please?

FW is getting much more fighting in the past months. That means fun for everyone involved and therefore I would not call it "broken".

Does it need some fixes still? for sure. I-¦d love to see some of the ideas expressed elsewhere and in this thread, to wit:

As Chatgris said:

1. Timer rollback to starting state when no-one is in the plex.
2. In order for the timer to run, a ship of the maximum size allowed in the plex needs to be there.

And as Michael Chasseur said:

3. Wtb corporate lp tax.

And if you want to claim that more PVP has happened, show some proof instead of just claiming it has.

Timer rollback to starting state when no-one is in the plex.

CCP should just make a change where it makes the warzone a warzone instead of low sec mission running.

Instead of ranting I want to make one simple idea known.

I think that kills made in Solar system should be applied to the control of that solar system. Math and explanation:

To win control of a system you must gain 100% control (put system into vulnerable) and kill the ihub.

Each plex that you complete (orbit a beacon for 10, 15, 20 or 25 min.) gives you .7% additional movement towards control (towards caputering of defending.)

For easy math (and simplicity of overall thought) all math is done at T1 control.
Novice - 10 min - 5,000 LP
Small - 15 min - 8,000 LP
medium - 20 min - 12,700 LP

So if I do the easy math which is running the Novice sites only: this is simple showing not exact numbers:

To push the system to 100% from 0% would take 143 sites. (novice sites)
5,000 LP per site (5,000 x 143 = 715000)
715,000 LP given to pilots for 100% control of a system.
If you earn LP for PVP kills (which is based off of the insurance payout) then those LP payments should be matched and paid into the ihub and used towards the max % of flip.

IE: Killing a hurricane gives (lets say) 5,000 LP payout. That means that the pilots involved receive 5,000 LP and the ihub receives 5,000 LP towards the max of 715,000 or whatever arbitrary number CCP wants to give it.

This would bring PVP into the front line where pvp actually matters. Killing a enemy BS fleet is worth more then 5 hours of sitting afk with a cloak frig plexing.

Since the payouts are based on insurance payouts (dont quote me but im pretty sure its either insurance or its the amount of the ship value x some %. Since LP payouts are always a fraction of the ship kill this will prevent people from abusing it since it will not be worth the isk loss.

This is a warzone, why does PVP not matter?

Best example is the Amarr Militia and Fweddit. Fweddit has a massive amount of kills and PVPs all the time. Yet the minmatar are (were) winning the warzone due to broken farming mechanics.

This brings this question to my mind:

"IS THIS A WARZONE OR IS THIS LOWSEC MISSION RUNNING?"

everything is exploitable.

This is a warzone, why does PVP not matter?

Best example is the Amarr Militia and Fweddit. Fweddit has a massive amount of kills and PVPs all the time. Yet the minmatar are (were) winning the warzone due to broken farming mechanics.

So many threads have urged CCP to do something, can't recall us ever having a DEV response in any of them. Many of us care about FW though so have to support these calls.

There are many great ideas and it is true that changes cannot make everyone happy. May own take on the situation is that the ISK earning potential needs to be crushed so that:

1. You can earn enough to fund PVP. But really, who needs 500+mil a day to PVP!?!
2. It is not the most lucrative PVE activity in EVE.
3. The winners do not have such an advantage that allies will becomes enemies just for ISK (extremely bad mechanics)

So for this I suggest:

T0 = Base LP
T1 = +5%
T2 = +10%
T3 = +15%
T4 = +20%
T5 = +25%

This is still very healthy ISK potential to maintain a nice hangar of ships and maintains some incentive for Sov (we have another Tier Bonuses that should matter as much) whilst not being over the top.

Pilots in EVE spend a lot of time and effort to get an extra 3-5% advantage in their activities so I am not sure why FW currently involves bonuses and penalties like +225% and -50%.

Just flatten the playing field a little. No need for code re-writing or anything fancy to at least try this, and should hopefully make FW less of a farmville.