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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.09.28 08:38:00 -
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It is with a sincerely heavy heart, that I must withdraw KIA from our current contract.
An internal split, which was developing b4 this contract, has finally erupted.
KIA has lost no fewer than 10 core members in the last few days, and as such we simply cannot fulfill this contract in the manner we know our employer, and our own selves, deserve.
Having spoken to our employer, we have decided this course of action to be taken.
I take full and unequivable responsibility for this situation, and no blame lies anywhere else but at my own feet.
KIA will be taking stock for the next couple of weeks, and then decide on the path we must take to ensure happyness for our corp members.
My deepest apologies to our Employer, and my open apologies to BoB, thank you for a smackless and respectful engagement, we only wish that we could of offered you the fight that KIA have been known for.
Flame away I guess.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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SkaffenAmtiskaw
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Posted - 2005.09.28 08:42:00 -
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:(
Shame that - best of luck in the future Eddz + everyone else in KIA. ______
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2005.09.28 08:45:00 -
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Can i be the first to say
LOL
Sorry cant help myself 
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KoeShadowhawk
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Posted - 2005.09.28 08:47:00 -
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Edited by: KoeShadowhawk on 28/09/2005 08:47:46 Just great.
Finally some fun by IMP paying you guys 2 fight us. And you go and start errupting n **** 
GL in the future though, hope everything works out.
Ps.
HEY IMP , NEXT MERC CORP PLZ < YARRRRR 
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budman905
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Posted - 2005.09.28 08:48:00 -
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Sorry to hear eddz  Hope KIA can regain there strenth, members and dont go down the road that S.A.S are going down atm. Good luck in the future i guess and good luck to the remaining KIA members in what they do next aswell.
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Deka Kador
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Posted - 2005.09.28 08:51:00 -
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budman and KIAEddz.........why don't you two solve your respective corps. problems and merger?
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.28 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra Can i be the first to say
LOL
Sorry cant help myself 
Seconded 
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.09.28 09:00:00 -
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Good luck to Kia.
@ Imperium: haha, next please.
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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.09.28 09:02:00 -
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If the KIA guys I know from beginnig are still in control, I know that it will rise again to be a PvP force to be reckoned with. The guys I know in KIA are good PvPers, beyond reproach.
I looked at the recent bloodbath on the BoB killboards and noticed that ALL of those slaughtered were names I did not know. This indicates to me that an influx of "non-KIA worthy" members has happened. Growing large is not always growing better. KiaEDDZ, I know you will fix this.
KKIAEddz, KiaGarpy, KisStumpy, ARTEGG (dude I miss you), and many other of those friends I made in KIA early on need to take back control, because they would have not let this happen.
KIA is one of Eve's "staples" when it comes to PvP and I am sure that things will be sorted out and you will return to the battlefield in victory once again.
You guys ROCK in my book, always.
****take
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.09.28 09:02:00 -
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Sorry to hear that Eddz, for KIA, your employer and indeed, BoB. It's always a hard thing when a dedicated crew looses a number of players for whatever reason, can really take the heart out of both your battle line and your players.
Best of luck in the coming weeks getting the handle back on KIA and I hope you get those nancy boys back from WoW!
Fly safe.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.28 09:06:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 28/09/2005 09:05:58 Take it easy eddz...
Go finish with bf2 then come back stronger and better ;)
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2005.09.28 09:10:00 -
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BF2 is just me and a few peeps, not nearly enough to have affected recent changes, Basically I bought the server and stole the KIA name. :D
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2005.09.28 09:15:00 -
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Im sure BOB payed KIA to attack em cause boredome is ebil in this game. Praeludium to success |

Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.09.28 09:18:00 -
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Hm my respect for kia corp just got even higher, i have to say.
But i feel sry for bob not getting anny action tho ;/ _________________ http://asuya.eve-killboard.net/ |

Johann Swiftblade
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Posted - 2005.09.28 09:23:00 -
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It's a shame that. Hope it all works out and you can come back and give it another go in the future.
Good luck
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Fred0
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Posted - 2005.09.28 09:59:00 -
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What a sad thing this is. GL KIA. Only one Mercenary entity left to try on bob, and they are npc'ing with them in delve. 
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D'Artagnan
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: ****take If the KIA guys I know from beginnig are still in control, I know that it will rise again to be a PvP force to be reckoned with. The guys I know in KIA are good PvPers, beyond reproach.
I looked at the recent bloodbath on the BoB killboards and noticed that ALL of those slaughtered were names I did not know. This indicates to me that an influx of "non-KIA worthy" members has happened. Growing large is not always growing better. KiaEDDZ, I know you will fix this.
KKIAEddz, KiaGarpy, KisStumpy, ARTEGG (dude I miss you), and many other of those friends I made in KIA early on need to take back control, because they would have not let this happen.
KIA is one of Eve's "staples" when it comes to PvP and I am sure that things will be sorted out and you will return to the battlefield in victory once again.
You guys ROCK in my book, always.
****take
****take i miss you to dude but i am still here just not playing atm. I just cant kill enough goblins in L2 atm 
GL to Eddz and the rest of the boyz hopefully one day we will have all the old team back and we can get back to the way it was
Lots of Love to all Artegg
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:09:00 -
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nice to see such an open and honest post.
Unfortunately didnt get to fight any of you, BNC hogged that ;-P.
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RogerWilco
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:17:00 -
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Hope u get things sorted fast, and get hired for a second go...
keep them comming imp... |

darth solo
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:21:00 -
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Same happened to us, we lost bout 10 of our really good pvpers to RL and were left with new recruits and lower skill point ppl..... while they tried very hard, they just couldnt keep our corp at the lvl we were used to.. they also couldnt compete with the blobs that ppl are insisting in being part off. Where did all the skill go?.
Alot of folks are gonna say its due to the heavy loses they took, looking at the BOB killboard in all due respect, most were ganks.. Their is big difference in being outclassed to being outnumbered.
1 corp taking on full alliance is never easy.
luck KIA, i expect 10 pages of flames btw.
d solo.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo Alot of folks are gonna say its due to the heavy loses they took, looking at the BOB killboard in all due respect, most were ganks.. Their is big difference in being outclassed to being outnumbered.
Mate, this was just a dumb thing to say and will do nothing but provoke flames from both sides, especially when you have no clue about what was going on.
Don't turn this thread into a flamefest.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: Ku''Gras on 28/09/2005 10:34:49
Originally by: darth solo
Alot of folks are gonna say its due to the heavy loses they took, looking at the BOB killboard in all due respect, most were ganks.. Their is big difference in being outclassed to being outnumbered.
1 corp taking on full alliance is never easy.
luck KIA, i expect 10 pages of flames btw.
d solo.
You were not even remotely involved and you have to start the flamebaiting and additionally state you expect future flames?
And no, there were no "heavy losses". Some losses, but not heavy so there's no reason to believe those played any major part in this. You won't see any of us going to claim our kills made any difference.
EDIT: ops. I got in too late. my forum powers are less l337 than db preachers.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:34:00 -
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"Alot of folks are gonna say its due to the heavy loses they took, looking at the BOB killboard in all due respect, most were ganks.. Their is big difference in being outclassed to being outnumbered."
Uhmm darth, with all due respect and stuff, most of these losses came from BNC engagement which, by how it looks on fraps recordings, was more than even... so please, don't spin? :/
Eddz and KIA guys, good luck \o/
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Gilad Pellaeon
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:40:00 -
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A conciderable number of "Old School" KIA have not been playing for nearly six Months now.
At times Eve seemed like a second job trying to get people organised and keep people happy, when all we wanted to do was have fun and blow people up. Maybe one day the old days will return, and we will be laughing at InkZ's n00bishness again.
A lot of people may see EddZ as an arrogant SOB, but he is rightly proud of what he created with KIA. And the people who wanna flame him for it make baby Jesus cry.
To the guys who have recently left KIA. Thanks for all you time and effort. You made us proud. EddZ and the "old School" KIA. Thanks for all the memories. You made this game worth playing for me. Thanks.
As for calling myself, InkZ, Gumpy, Iratus, Duplex, Clash etc etc nancy boys for playing WoW!? Our Silverleaf pwns ur Veldspar. 
Bye all. Have fun. _
KIA Corp - Mercenaries for Hire Contemptuous arrogance FREE with every contract |

Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gilad Pellaeon As for calling myself, InkZ, Gumpy, Iratus, Duplex, Clash etc etc nancy boys for playing WoW!? Our Silverleaf pwns ur Veldspar. 
*mutters in a sotto voice* Bunch o'fairies. 
Ach, best of luck no matter what game you play . . . evenifitisthespawnofevilfromblizzardsungodlyloinswhichisknownin allitsevilgloryasWoW . . *cough*
I think we can all agree that KIA will always be a respected corporation, and I am certain that you'll be back on top of your game once things are sorted out.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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drewitzu
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
Alot of folks are gonna say its due to the heavy loses they took, looking at the BOB killboard in all due respect, most were ganks.. Their is big difference in being outclassed to being outnumbered. d solo.
As one of the players who was on the receiving end in the two engagements in question , I can confirm that we were slightly outnumbered in the first and more or less equal, in terms of numbers, in the second. They were not ganks. My respect goes to the BOB guys I "met" for a smack free "war" and their fighting abilities.
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:04:00 -
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Im NOT playing WoW i playing BF 2 with guns like REAL man and stuff  _________________
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:07:00 -
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sheesh... i didnt flame, im saying KIA dont have the numbers as they had already confirmed, i can relate to that as the same thing happened to us..
killing ppl by ganking is perfectly ok.. its hard for small corps to compete when they dont have the numbers.
dont dictate to me what i can or cannot write. some are so bitter they see things that are not even there. now keep it real and respect what others have to say.
d solo.
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Dracorimus on 28/09/2005 11:13:17
 Too bad Eddz, and to the rest of the KIA lads, was hoping you would stick it out and give us a damn good showing...
Gl in your future ventures in EvE or whichever game you play... I can't say anything about WoW tho, I play it also Guildwars hehe..
Nothing beats Eve for the PVP tho, so hopefully you will come back stronger and try again so we can have some fun and shannanigans in space...
Respect.
Hats off to you -
For more than a single foe to attempt to fight the Reikoku at once is an act of supreme folly. |

Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:12:00 -
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To all non-involved parties, please refrain from giving views on how BOB or KIA fights, it leads to smack and useless arguments, me points at Darth Solo.  -
For more than a single foe to attempt to fight the Reikoku at once is an act of supreme folly. |
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: drewitzu
Originally by: darth solo
Alot of folks are gonna say its due to the heavy loses they took, looking at the BOB killboard in all due respect, most were ganks.. Their is big difference in being outclassed to being outnumbered. d solo.
As one of the players who was on the receiving end in the two engagements in question , I can confirm that we were slightly outnumbered in the first and more or less equal, in terms of numbers, in the second. They were not ganks. My respect goes to the BOB guys I "met" for a smack free "war" and their fighting abilities.
Then i apologise for defending u.. it seems like u were just outclassed according to the killboard. I just seen lots of loses with many ppl on the mails, and not many kills, leading me to believe u had very few numbers..
d solo.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:18:00 -
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This is not directed towards anyone, so take it as you will:
Unless you've ever tried to run or be part of a serious Merc outfit, you have no ground to stand on when it comes to flaming Eddz or the core fighters of KIA. Being the CEO or a long time member of a dedicated merc corp is one of the hardest jobs in the game.
Just look at the number of "merc corps" who have come and gone. There are very few who have stood the test of time and stayed true to the path. From the top on down, KIA was a shining example of how to do things right.
Major kudos to Eddz for doing what he always does: come out and honestly tell the community what the deal is.
Eddz, myself and the MC wish you nothing but the best. Hopefully you can get things back on track. If there is anything I can do to help, don't hesitate to ask. -
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Lungorthin
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:24:00 -
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Kudos to KIA for being good sports :)
I was hoping, praying and expecting an attack from the famous KIA Dreadnaughts. We wanted to test defence for a change and drilled and prepared a lot for it. Well I shall continue to hope that one day someone else tests our defences. :)
Lungorthin
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:25:00 -
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Ah, one serious question eddz...
Are you going to remove the War Dec?
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Yamabushi
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Yamabushi on 28/09/2005 11:29:06 Edited by: Yamabushi on 28/09/2005 11:27:52 sorry to hear about your internal problems.. i hope KIA gets back to old strength fast....I wish you all the best
http://asuya.eve-killboard.net/
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MyFire
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:31:00 -
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GL KIA... I hope that everything works out good !
And don't forget that in every "organization", there are times when the s*hit hits the fence. Those are the times when ppl show their REAL characters. That happens in eve and RL too.
Try to make the best of it . Try to learn from mistakes .
Anyway... GL again 
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: Sun Ra Can i be the first to say
LOL
Sorry cant help myself 
Seconded 
Can I just add that in no way does this reflect the feelings of Millennium.
The guy has held his hands up on eve-o and explained the situation.
Did I miss where we got so 'uber' all of a sudden ? Leave the smack to others, lets play our game not theirs 
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:42:00 -
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Respect KIA. Takes a brave man to setup up, swallow his pride, and do whats best for his corp, no matter the consquences
Hope you can rebuild and come back to your former glory mate
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:48:00 -
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Props to KIA for taking the contract in the first place. That was a brave move, which may not have paid off in the end, but man it was balsy.
KIA put up some good fights, and kept trying.
I hope Imperium don't start smacking KIA, because they could learn a thing or two from them.
Well done KIA.
Oh EddZ ... I hope things come together for KIA soon ... and I hope you guys still managed to make some ISK out of the whole thing, you deserve it. ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |

TWD
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:55:00 -
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My view of this contract:
We have most of our people in 0.0 space, and anyone in empire space treats it as 0.0 when an empire war is active.
That means to either travel in a fast ship, use a scout in anything bigger or move in groups (again with good scouting).
That is why losses on our side were kept to a minimum and pretty much all of them were due to (consensual) PvP engagements.
KIA are not new players either, they have some good PvPers. |
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.09.28 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 28/09/2005 12:02:59
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: drewitzu
Originally by: darth solo
Alot of folks are gonna say its due to the heavy loses they took, looking at the BOB killboard in all due respect, most were ganks.. Their is big difference in being outclassed to being outnumbered. d solo.
As one of the players who was on the receiving end in the two engagements in question , I can confirm that we were slightly outnumbered in the first and more or less equal, in terms of numbers, in the second. They were not ganks. My respect goes to the BOB guys I "met" for a smack free "war" and their fighting abilities.
Then i apologise for defending u.. it seems like u were just outclassed according to the killboard. I just seen lots of loses with many ppl on the mails, and not many kills, leading me to believe u had very few numbers..
d solo.
The problem with looking at kill-mails is that they make all fleet kills look like ganks. Everyone is working on taking down the enemy one ship at a time, so the mail shows one ship killed with lots of parties involved. This gives the impression that the ship was alone, no matter what size fleet it was part of. ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |

TheJay
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Posted - 2005.09.28 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: Sun Ra Can i be the first to say
LOL
Sorry cant help myself 
Seconded 
Can I just add that in no way does this reflect the feelings of Millennium.
The guy has held his hands up on eve-o and explained the situation.
Did I miss where we got so 'uber' all of a sudden ? Leave the smack to others, lets play our game not theirs 
Wasn't anything to do with MLM indeed, just feelings from the not too distant past re KIA
Anyway, gl hf with whatever you do lads 
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.09.28 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo Then i apologise for defending u.. it seems like u were just outclassed according to the killboard. I just seen lots of loses with many ppl on the mails, and not many kills, leading me to believe u had very few numbers..
Darth, c'mon man, as a pvp outfit you KNOW that, if you get ganked, you made a mistake and deserved it. You also know that it is quite within the realms of possibility that any force that engages another, with equal numbers but literally ZERO support, isn't going to be able to hold the enemy down and is gonna die in droves because they can warp out.
Don't let your personal opinion of BoB cloud your perception of things that happened, you're better than that.
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zincol
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Posted - 2005.09.28 12:10:00 -
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i wub eddz!
Maybe we should make a corp named "SASKIA" kinda sexy name too ^^best of luck m8.
w00t!
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.09.28 12:13:00 -
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I hope KIA can sort thmeselves out and come back stronger in the future.
Also respect to them for taking the contract in the first place, it was never ever going to be easy. It's just a shame it broke their corp within a week!
Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here |

DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2005.09.28 12:55:00 -
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el oh el,
That being said i wish all the oldschool KIA, i remember and loved fighting from the "good old days" of the NVA and BM-C, the very best of luck in whatever they decide to do.
<3
-Havo ------------------- DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - yarr tbh "Take from the rich and put it on eBay" - zincol |

KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2005.09.28 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: KIAInkZ on 28/09/2005 12:59:45 KIA 4TW :)
It's just a shame this all blew up when we were taking on such a big contract and is really crappy timing.
Sorry I couldn't be there you help you guys, but picking flowers and killing dragons is a full time job :(
KIA seem to have these mishaps occur at least once a year, and we've come this far so I'm sure EddZ will sort it out. ---
Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk |

Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2005.09.28 13:08:00 -
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shame to hear KIA 
I was in most of the engagements with KIA and the smack free local was a refreshing change from some encounters i have been in on. I hope you guys get it sorted, and thanks for the fun in the skirmishes we had.
Hope to see you guys back and contracting again when the time is right. I went and picked flowers for about 5 months in WoW, but then the game runs a touch dry, and the call of EVE will happen again . GL in any of your gaming adventures.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2005.09.28 13:38:00 -
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Aww man! That sucks!  I hope you can sort it in some way and return in whatever shape or form that will suit you the best. KIA is to good of a name to just fade away...
Good luck and let us know if there's anything we can do to help!
Regards, LOWA
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.09.28 13:44:00 -
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Can we see and end of contract results  ---------------
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Galavet
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Posted - 2005.09.28 13:50:00 -
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Good Luck Eddz, get you corp sorted bro and come back with guns blazing.
Galavet
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Sivona
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Posted - 2005.09.28 13:52:00 -
[52]
Good Luck on recovering Eddz, what you did was sensible. Hope to see you flying again, you've been a shining light of the merc profession.
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Zajo
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Posted - 2005.09.28 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: Zajo on 28/09/2005 14:24:23 Im sorry to hear about your current situation, those of you who know me from KIA and the rest, i wish you all the best of luck.
Im my mind KIA will always be one of the best pvp corps in EVE, lots of respect to you all.
Love/miss you guys and girls ...
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-= You Will Survive Only On The Breath Im Finished With=-
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.09.28 14:27:00 -
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Oh well I'm sure you'll soon recover, when you do, please come back again, I didn't see a single KIA in space throughout the war :(
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre |

Noveron
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Posted - 2005.09.28 14:33:00 -
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Id really like to know what happened exactly, but then again, Im sure noone will tell :)
Good luck in the future anyways KIA, hope things get solved.
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2005.09.28 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius Can we see and end of contract results 
As both bob and KIA keeps a complete both kill & loss board you can look on either one of them.
The bob one is pretty crowded so it's easier to look at KIAs.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2005.09.28 14:50:00 -
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Sad to see this happen with KIA, but I hope and believe you'll be back in force sometime in the future.
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CLEISTHENES2
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Posted - 2005.09.28 15:24:00 -
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GL for the future and hope you guys recover for the future.
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Alberta
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Posted - 2005.09.28 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Gilad Pellaeon A lot of people may see EddZ as an arrogant SOB, but he is rightly proud of what he created with KIA.
I did and still do to a reasonable extent (let's face it, he is ). This post clearly shows he has much more depth of character though.
Best of luck in the future guys and gal. Hope to see you back to strength before too long.
My Thoughts on Game Balance |

Ja5on
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Posted - 2005.09.28 16:13:00 -
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was fun fighting you guys and be able to leave local minmized and never see it blink. GL recovering and hope it doesnt take too long as i like watching kia videos. Any chance of a video from this war?
TomB [XXPIM] lightly hits you, doing 7890.8 damage. |
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2005.09.28 16:20:00 -
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nooooooooo gl guys n girls,sad day indeed.
p.s give clash a kick from me 
T2 shuttles have been released, they're called Ares and Raptor.-Vathar.
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KIAStumpy
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Posted - 2005.09.28 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: ****take If the KIA guys I know from beginnig are still in control, I know that it will rise again to be a PvP force to be reckoned with. The guys I know in KIA are good PvPers, beyond reproach.
I looked at the recent bloodbath on the BoB killboards and noticed that ALL of those slaughtered were names I did not know. This indicates to me that an influx of "non-KIA worthy" members has happened. Growing large is not always growing better. KiaEDDZ, I know you will fix this.
KKIAEddz, KiaGarpy, KisStumpy, ARTEGG (dude I miss you), and many other of those friends I made in KIA early on need to take back control, because they would have not let this happen.
KIA is one of Eve's "staples" when it comes to PvP and I am sure that things will be sorted out and you will return to the battlefield in victory once again.
You guys ROCK in my book, always.
****take
Thanks 4 the nice word m8y But i am not far away :) Good luck pete sorry it had to happen mid bob war But it was coming tbh Anyway but good luck
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2005.09.28 17:20:00 -
[63]
Good luck eddz matey. i spent 2 years flying with you guys and it was awesome. im sure it will all work out again.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.09.28 17:36:00 -
[64]
Always a shame to see any corp with a long and rich history go through troubled times. On a personal level for a long time now BNC and KIA have had a little bit of friendly(ish!) rivalry and we have a healthy respect for KIA. Indicative of the relationship is the fact that we've several senior KIA players joining BNC, despite the fact we've been hostile to each other for well over a year now.
It's a great shame that you weren't on top form for this contract as we'd have loved pitting our best against yours and making a real fight of it. These things happen from time to time though and on behalf of all at BNC we hope you get back on your feet, rebuild and live up to your reputation.
We were going to war dec you straight back again when the contract ended but I guess that won't be necessary now.
Good luck and all the best.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.09.28 17:41:00 -
[65]
Originally by: darth solo Then i apologise for defending u.. it seems like u were just outclassed according to the killboard. I just seen lots of loses with many ppl on the mails, and not many kills, leading me to believe u had very few numbers..
d solo.
Nice to see you apologise for defending KIA mistakenly. Of course on behalf of BNC I accept your gracious apology for the implied insult to our pilots abilities as well. 
Considering the grief you give other people about smacking on the forums you excelled at getting both feet in your mouth this time.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Draximus Cane
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Posted - 2005.09.28 17:48:00 -
[66]
A sad day, good look KIA guys
Just goes to show hard the Merc business is
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Bruchpilot
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Posted - 2005.09.28 17:59:00 -
[67]
First I want to whish KIA best luck in their future, hope your problems get solved. We know how it feels like...
Second, stop flaming Darth. He's at least half right at what he said. As someone confirmed you don't take any risks so he's right to question the skill an avarage BoB pilot has cause you didn't prove it yet (not talking about some outstanding players)! You got very good leaders, this is out of question but by no means you prove to be good PvPers just cause your members know how to lock a target and hit f1, f2, f3...
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.28 18:03:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Bruchpilot First I want to whish KIA best luck in their future, hope your problems get solved. We know how it feels like...
Second, stop flaming Darth. He's at least half right at what he said. As someone confirmed you don't take any risks so he's right to question the skill an avarage BoB pilot has cause you didn't prove it yet (not talking about some outstanding players)! You got very good leaders, this is out of question but by no means you prove to be good PvPers just cause your members know how to lock a target and hit f1, f2, f3...
Perhaps you didn't quite follow the advice giving to solo above?
No one cares, take your flaming elsewhere.
thx, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.09.28 18:07:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Bruchpilot Second, stop flaming Darth. He's at least half right at what he said. As someone confirmed you don't take any risks so he's right to question the skill an avarage BoB pilot has cause you didn't prove it yet (not talking about some outstanding players)! You got very good leaders, this is out of question but by no means you prove to be good PvPers just cause your members know how to lock a target and hit f1, f2, f3...
Err... frankly no I won't 'stop flaming Darth', he had an indirect pop at my corporation and it was totally unjustified. The fights he referred to were far from the type of fight where a number of people just hitting F1, F2, F3.. would have been sufficient.
We have been respectful to KIA throughout this episode and then someone uninvolved jumps in with no knowledge of what actually transpired and gets it totally wrong. He deserves pulling up for it, as I would expect him to do to me if it happened in reverse.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.09.28 18:17:00 -
[70]
Can we stop the who is flaming who contest please?
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.09.28 18:25:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Bruchpilot First I want to whish KIA best luck in their future, hope your problems get solved. We know how it feels like...
Second, stop flaming Darth. He's at least half right at what he said. As someone confirmed you don't take any risks so he's right to question the skill an avarage BoB pilot has cause you didn't prove it yet (not talking about some outstanding players)! You got very good leaders, this is out of question but by no means you prove to be good PvPers just cause your members know how to lock a target and hit f1, f2, f3...
Lol, it is obvious you have NO clue about the fights that transpired between BNC and KIA as far as taking risks and skill. If you DID have any knowledge on what happened you would be saying the exact opposite of this. ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.09.28 18:26:00 -
[72]
Best of Luck KIA
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.09.28 18:47:00 -
[73]
Much respect to KIA for taking the contract in the first place, and even more for fielding some good battles. Sorry to hear about your internal troubles, i have a freind or two in kia, and we were really hoping for a full-on conflict. As too the battles that were had, they were far from ganks (at least fights i was in), the primary engagement we were outnumbered severely in BS, but had the advantage of full support - a classic case of eve strategy at its best, it couldve gone either way. I personally had a great time, there was no smak at all from either side, only respect and sportsmanship. I wish KIA the best in its time of trouble, and hope to see you in full force doing what we all know you do best soon. GF KIA.
To IMP: lol
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Easy Target
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Posted - 2005.09.28 19:12:00 -
[74]
Good luck KIA, rebuilding is hard. Hope you all make it back..
Always respected you since the days of the old venal alliance.
No smack is nice. :)
I really should update my sig.... O_O -----------------------------------------------
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Darkcraft
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Posted - 2005.09.28 19:56:00 -
[75]
Ahhh the good old days, how they are missed. I'm sure we'll pull through we always have. Just hope the old boys and new can stick together out of game, be in on the battlefield(2) or dancing like a nonce in a patch of flowers :P, and in our regular meets. Would be nice to get us altogether, ex members and all throughout the ages, for a ****up.
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Airpizza II
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Posted - 2005.09.28 21:14:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Blacklight Always a shame to see any corp with a long and rich history go through troubled times. On a personal level for a long time now BNC and KIA have had a little bit of friendly(ish!) rivalry and we have a healthy respect for KIA. Indicative of the relationship is the fact that we've several senior KIA players joining BNC, despite the fact we've been hostile to each other for well over a year now.
...
We were going to war dec you straight back again when the contract ended but I guess that won't be necessary now.
Good luck and all the best.
One word: Lub 
Thx Bob for not turning this into a flamefest 
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.09.28 21:23:00 -
[77]
To bad some think we got into this due our recent contract wich isnt at all .
As for BoB ty very much for yer support and understanding and thx to others for the support .
and for those who havent a clue ..CS is good for you , you can flame there whatever you want ;)
Whatever happens KIA still lives on , not only in EvE its more diversed and a very good bunch to hang out at ;) _________________
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2005.09.28 22:01:00 -
[78]
...running kia... 
sry, I'll buy you a beer sometime 
gl
You Will Cry My Name_________ Sponsored by: Omnicore Systems - "Building for the people"
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.09.28 22:13:00 -
[79]
Im now getting called a smacker?, huh?... i just said some things that i seen.. i looked at the BOB killboard, seen alot of KIA deaths and not alot of kills, i presumed this was because KIA had very few numbers and were being overpowered by BOB, as the topic title/post would lead us all to believe ...
i cant believe u are trying to dictate what i post.. just because i do not have a BOB/5 alliance logo under my name does not mean im not allowed to post on these forums.. iv been using them long before most of u, and prob will be long after ur gone...
d solo.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.09.28 22:23:00 -
[80]
Originally by: darth solo Im now getting called a smacker?, huh?... i just said some things that i seen.. i looked at the BOB killboard, seen alot of KIA deaths and not alot of kills, i presumed this was because KIA had very few numbers and were being overpowered by BOB, as the topic title/post would lead us all to believe ...
i cant believe u are trying to dictate what i post.. just because i do not have a BOB/5 alliance logo under my name does not mean im not allowed to post on these forums.. iv been using them long before most of u, and prob will be long after ur gone...
d solo.
stop derailing the thread please. Atleast dont bring us into it
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2005.09.28 23:19:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Nira Li ...running kia... 
sry, I'll buy you a beer sometime 
gl
yeh so like so many back then in dual mwd frigs/ceptors and stabs eh .
dont get this thread like that altho i didnt gave the perfect response .
things happens , lives changes and all that if you chose to flame at that so be it , then you're no more to me as CS kinda generation guy .
As for things happening , you cant put a date on it simpel as that altho i guess people feel the need to flame it wich is sad tbh coz 99 % dont even have a clue .
Wether we once were sworn enemies (ingame) of BoB now i can say take an example to them when you respond .
If you dont have a clue dont flame if you have or feel the need to respond , respond with yer main and no it doesnt has much to do being a merc corp .
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Retirement closing in .
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.09.28 23:56:00 -
[82]
Man, too bad you couldn't have had this strength of character when dealing with the aftermath of one of your guys fudging a 1v1.
GL I guess.
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.09.29 00:06:00 -
[83]
KIA has been a part of EVE since the start, i really hope you guys will pull this one through and recover. If not, it would be yet another tragic loss of a great corp from the old school.
God Speed Eddz.
I might have ATUK in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.09.29 00:17:00 -
[84]
Sad to see you go KIA, only time I ever actually encoutered you guys was during the short period I was in the Phoenix Alliance. Good luck on rebuilding and may you return to your previous glory 
On a side note, lets not start flaming others for intepreting killboards the wrong way. Not everyone conducts 2 hours of research into every involved corp's killboard to get a 90% accurate report to post 
Anyway, safe flying to KIA corp  _________________________________ God is always on the side with the best artillery. |

Berneh
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Posted - 2005.09.29 00:35:00 -
[85]
I Bummed The Lord

Originally by: Oveur (at the eve radio party 05) You havent seen anything yet
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2005.09.29 01:19:00 -
[86]
Lol the recruiting powers of BNC and the miners is too extreme for the likes of KIA JK, gl to you guys and i wish i could have been there for some of the fights. -----------------------
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ScoRpS
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Posted - 2005.09.29 02:25:00 -
[87]
I dont know the finer details but i do know its sad news 
Hope u do find a way to resurect KIA to its former glory 
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SweatySack
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Posted - 2005.09.29 04:02:00 -
[88]
Good luck KIA. Drop me a line in game when you can Eddz.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2005.09.29 07:21:00 -
[89]
There is no animosity between BoB and KIA. I don't know if anyone else noticed but there is a whole lot of respect between us. Everyone also knows we had nothing to do with what happend to them.
Hope you guys get back on your feet soon and start kicking tailpipe soon.
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2005.09.29 07:33:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Abdalion Can we stop the who is flaming who contest please?
I think you're the only one who can stop it really. ------- K. Raven
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Hackett
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Posted - 2005.09.29 08:35:00 -
[91]
Good luck lads & lass - but I doubt u will need it.
If theres another London eve meet I'll buy u all a beer ;)
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Learesh
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Posted - 2005.09.29 10:34:00 -
[92]
sry to hear that about KIA. i wish u guys the best of luck in the future and i hope u solve your problems and come back stronger
As goes for IMP wabbits... Here we come *****es Right before you lay in your coffin you are gonna say my name! |

Nira Li
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Posted - 2005.09.29 10:39:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Lord ofRedemption
Originally by: Nira Li ...running kia... 
sry, I'll buy you a beer sometime 
gl
yeh so like so many back then in dual mwd frigs/ceptors and stabs eh .
dont get this thread like that altho i didnt gave the perfect response .
things happens , lives changes and all that if you chose to flame at that so be it , then you're no more to me as CS kinda generation guy .
As for things happening , you cant put a date on it simpel as that altho i guess people feel the need to flame it wich is sad tbh coz 99 % dont even have a clue .
Wether we once were sworn enemies (ingame) of BoB now i can say take an example to them when you respond .
If you dont have a clue dont flame if you have or feel the need to respond , respond with yer main and no it doesnt has much to do being a merc corp .
ok, 1: You wont get any beer 2: I have a clue but I have never ever got one good fight from KIA not in north and not when you were down in south, so I don't have any kind of respect for you and I probably never will. 3: I bet you play even more CS then me cuz I hate that game 4: It's sad that you corp can't continue with your contract but it didn't suprise me at all that you weren't abel to comlpete it.
Other than that gl, you need it
You Will Cry My Name_________ Sponsored by: Omnicore Systems - "Building for the people"
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Ribbo
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Posted - 2005.09.29 11:08:00 -
[94]
the early days of the second coming of kia were some of my best in eve, and the meetups legendary, gl rebuilding.
Ribbo
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csebal
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Posted - 2005.09.29 11:11:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Learesh sry to hear that about KIA. i wish u guys the best of luck in the future and i hope u solve your problems and come back stronger
As goes for IMP wabbits... Here we come *****es
I've seen DBP post, and though.. oh my.. now this thread - despite of it having nothing to do with bob or imp - will be turned into a bob-imp flame fest. It didnt happen, and i sighed with relief.. After all, if not even DBP can do it, then there is noone on earth capable of doing it.
Again, i was wrong. Congratulations Learesh for the hijacking of a completely conflict free thread by an useless piece of flame bait.
As for KIA: Sad to hear about your problems, it really feels bad when old groups slipt up or stop playing. Hope you find the way together back soon.
This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation or that of the Imperium Alliance in any way Now in bold for all those who have trouble reading it |

Corey Grim
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Posted - 2005.09.29 11:33:00 -
[96]
GL guys for rebuilding ur corp. im no mercenary but this rare situation is sad indeed. Very much respect to KIAEddZ & KIA for making this post and being honest.
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Shamrock
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Posted - 2005.09.29 12:23:00 -
[97]
Originally by: csebal
I've seen DBP post, and though.. oh my.. now this thread - despite of it having nothing to do with bob or imp
Hey! You surely aren't the brightest bulb in the box. Read the Topic Mr. Smart Guy.
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csebal
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Posted - 2005.09.29 13:32:00 -
[98]
Edited by: csebal on 29/09/2005 13:33:22 *** no more comments *** This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation or that of the Imperium Alliance in any way Now in bold for all those who have trouble reading it |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.29 13:33:00 -
[99]
Csebal, shut up, quit trolling and go back to work.
thx, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Maggot
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Posted - 2005.09.29 13:57:00 -
[100]
OOC: Hope you get together again in one form or another. Our war with KIA was one of the highlights in the life of Ushra'khan - a defining moment.
All the best. Maggot.
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Gaeth hEirennan
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:53:00 -
[101]
GL rebuilding KIA, respect.
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Ribbo
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Posted - 2005.09.29 17:12:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Maggot OOC: Hope you get together again in one form or another. Our war with KIA was one of the highlights in the life of Ushra'khan - a defining moment.
All the best. Maggot.
agreed, it rocked, you guys left a lasting impression on us and it was fun to have a laugh about it over a beer in london.
Ribbo
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locus 777
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Posted - 2005.09.30 07:56:00 -
[103]
Gilad, instead of giving it to the fairies of WoW, get off that now Frank Thring of an arse, and teach the nublars what the spandex g-string is really for!
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Fred0
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Posted - 2005.09.30 09:20:00 -
[104]
Originally by: locus 777 ... what the spandex g-string is really for!
Atomic wedgies?
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2005.09.30 15:52:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Lord ofRedemption
Originally by: Nira Li ...running kia... 
sry, I'll buy you a beer sometime 
gl
yeh so like so many back then in dual mwd frigs/ceptors and stabs eh .
dont get this thread like that altho i didnt gave the perfect response .
things happens , lives changes and all that if you chose to flame at that so be it , then you're no more to me as CS kinda generation guy .
As for things happening , you cant put a date on it simpel as that altho i guess people feel the need to flame it wich is sad tbh coz 99 % dont even have a clue .
Wether we once were sworn enemies (ingame) of BoB now i can say take an example to them when you respond .
If you dont have a clue dont flame if you have or feel the need to respond , respond with yer main and no it doesnt has much to do being a merc corp .
ok, 1: You wont get any beer 2: I have a clue but I have never ever got one good fight from KIA not in north and not when you were down in south, so I don't have any kind of respect for you and I probably never will. 3: I bet you play even more CS then me cuz I hate that game 4: It's sad that you corp can't continue with your contract but it didn't suprise me at all that you weren't abel to comlpete it.
Other than that gl, you need it
OMFG!?! Listen to yourself, stop the impotent flamming, and **** off will ya? Where & Why on earth(And in space) was the crap you just said to be let loose in this thread? man... Go somewhere else with crap like that, it dosent belong here.
Christ... Before it gets any worse, please lock this thread!
And to the Kia guys, sorry to hear that, and i wish you guys goodluck.
And clash, talk to ya later mate.
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MIGHTYDWC
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Posted - 2005.09.30 16:28:00 -
[106]
First off just want to send my props to Ed and KIA. During my employment with KOS, flying with you guys was some of the best times I've had in Eve.
Second, Eddz did seem to come across TS as a aragant SOB, but hey, sometimes you have to be like that to get your point across and to keep your fleet incheck, and I had no problems with that about him.
Last, I've been through what KIA is going through, with Celts and KOS. Funny how when you have to step back and NOT look at the big picture, but focus on the one thing infront of you (your corp), and do what's best for it, you get called cowards or backstabbers, and then when you try to explain yourself even though your not obligated to do so, the smack starts flying. If I were in Eddz shoes, I would have done the same thing.
Nuttin' but love for ya Eddz and KIA. I'm sure you know who your friends are in this game. Don't hesitate to call on 'em if you need 'em.
Favorite saying on TS: This "phoon of Doom" is very easy to kill things with. They die very fast. <---JaegerX
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Mangold
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Posted - 2005.09.30 16:43:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Ribbo
Originally by: Maggot OOC: Hope you get together again in one form or another. Our war with KIA was one of the highlights in the life of Ushra'khan - a defining moment.
All the best. Maggot.
agreed, it rocked, you guys left a lasting impression on us and it was fun to have a laugh about it over a beer in london.
Ribbo
I did learn alot from that short war. Quite different than fighting ebil slavers. Good luck and all the best.
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.09.30 21:03:00 -
[108]
Sorry for not reading what's been said but, from a few of the latest comments this must be getting pretty messy.
Anyway, ISS made a most interesting post about a neutral station in 0.0.......If nothing comes to mind, perhaps you'd sign on with them. With your experience, you'll definately make a good police force or at least the beginnings of.....they will desperately need this going forward....
WHATEVER you decide to do, good luck with it. It's never good when a corp experiences trouble of that scale |

Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.10.01 01:52:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Mindlles Hm my respect for kia corp just got even higher, i have to say.
But i feel sry for bob not getting anny action tho ;/
Maybe some of the games largers PvP corporations shouldn't be in the same alliance if they get bored with no-one fighting them. 
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2005.10.02 12:01:00 -
[110]
Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Lord ofRedemption
Originally by: Nira Li ...running kia... 
sry, I'll buy you a beer sometime 
gl
yeh so like so many back then in dual mwd frigs/ceptors and stabs eh .
dont get this thread like that altho i didnt gave the perfect response .
things happens , lives changes and all that if you chose to flame at that so be it , then you're no more to me as CS kinda generation guy .
As for things happening , you cant put a date on it simpel as that altho i guess people feel the need to flame it wich is sad tbh coz 99 % dont even have a clue .
Wether we once were sworn enemies (ingame) of BoB now i can say take an example to them when you respond .
If you dont have a clue dont flame if you have or feel the need to respond , respond with yer main and no it doesnt has much to do being a merc corp .
ok, 1: You wont get any beer 2: I have a clue but I have never ever got one good fight from KIA not in north and not when you were down in south, so I don't have any kind of respect for you and I probably never will. 3: I bet you play even more CS then me cuz I hate that game 4: It's sad that you corp can't continue with your contract but it didn't suprise me at all that you weren't abel to comlpete it.
Other than that gl, you need it
OMFG!?! Listen to yourself, stop the impotent flamming, and **** off will ya? Where & Why on earth(And in space) was the crap you just said to be let loose in this thread? man... Go somewhere else with crap like that, it dosent belong here.
Christ... Before it gets any worse, please lock this thread!
And to the Kia guys, sorry to hear that, and i wish you guys goodluck.
And clash, talk to ya later mate.
/Mav
erm.. it's no flaming I just said what I thought of KIA, am I not allowed to say that?
Just because they couldn't finnish their contract and they make a post on the forums I have to say "Respect" "You guys are the best" or "You rock"? Cuz that's just the opposit of what they do and what they are.
And that is what I think about them.
so no need to flame me cuz I say what I think about a corp.
You Will Cry My Name_________ Sponsored by: Omnicore Systems - "Building for the people"
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J909
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Posted - 2005.10.03 11:37:00 -
[111]
/Salute KIA
Some of the best times I have had in Eve were flying with KIA, TS was always a right laugh - making Overcopes sing = classic - Clash drunken ramblings - Iratus setup advice line - Eddz b*ollocking everyone - Gilad sex talk - I could go on and on
ps. Im sure KIA will be back, killing pixie's get dull rather fast...
Everyone allways comes back to Eve Eve FTW WoW FTL ----------------------------------------------- Its a deal, Its a steal, its sale of the fekin centuary ;)
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.10.03 13:27:00 -
[112]
Gilad and the jackhammer + "don't tell to my girlfriend"
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2005.10.03 13:50:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Lord ofRedemption
Originally by: Nira Li ...running kia... 
sry, I'll buy you a beer sometime 
gl
snip
ok, 1: You wont get any beer2. 3: I bet you play even more CS then me cuz I hate that game : nope
to 1 : i take offence to that one ill petition as soon i log on , nevertake a man's beer away  _____________
Retirement closing in .
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Airpizza II
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Posted - 2005.10.04 02:06:00 -
[114]
Originally by: J909 /Salute KIA
Some of the best times I have had in Eve were flying with KIA, TS was always a right laugh - making Overcopes sing = classic - Clash drunken ramblings - Iratus setup advice line - Eddz b*ollocking everyone - Gilad sex talk - I could go on and on
ps. Im sure KIA will be back, killing pixie's get dull rather fast...
Everyone allways comes back to Eve Eve FTW WoW FTL
Dont forget Inkz's friday night drunken ts sessions :)
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