that the mouth is going to move when speaking via ingame voice.

It could be the real immersion of a social gameplay and the friendship or even foeship

build up in those bars and clubs may result in huge economic consequences.

A new player is getting into EvE, get a warm welcome from its hologram in his captains quarter with sound output. He now has the ability to choose, to meet people right after he entered the game, or doing a few tutorials with agents which will talk to him while he is in space like in the X-Universe.

Hello Solstice Project,

its all about immersion, and graphics and technology is a port to strengthing the immersive part of the game, which can acquire more players to stay or get into EvE as well as add complexity for the long term ones.

But I think the disagreement between us really show the different thinking directions we got at the same topic. I notice more then simply fancy graphics behind Walking in Stations.

If it will be something like this, than no thank you. Keep that door shut and barricaded then.

But, if there can be shooting, killing, stabbing and backstabbing sprinkled with gambling then yes open that damn door, open it right now.

b..b..but, running around a "bar" with a pink 'fro is important, and EVE is going to die without it.

the mouth is going to move when speaking via ingame voice.

I would honestly be all for it if I could be convinced that these features could be implemented without CCP neglecting the other aspects of the game. However, I have doubts that they could considering they are working on DUST and WoD as well, and they simply cant stall their work on those while they are in their infancy or else they will crumble before they can take off.

this is beyond creepy, and not at all what I would look for in a game.

i want my bar, please open the door and let me make my bar!

CCP Atlanta is and always was working on WoD, CCP Shanghai is working on DUST and CCP Reykjavik is working on EVE Online.

Anyway I'm pretty freaking tired of this reasoning against WiS: "Oooh they'll have to drop everything to make Incarna worthwile, I'm against it because of this."
No, they don't have to drop everything. CCP Demoed Ambulation (what Incarna was called back then) during 2008 fanfest (I think it was 2008, but could be 2009?), they had a mostly working prototype with establishments and minigames you could play with other capsuleers for ISK, they also demoed bots - in this case, bartenders - and mentioned they could be further developed in a way to allow player created missions; Have a player to install a shady character bot in an establishment, write dialogue for it and have it demand an item for a reward , or give some sort of an item for a fee, as an example, like the bartenders would serve drinks for a fee, which would go to fatten a corporation or a personal wallet (with appropriate taxes levied by Concord Secure Commerce Commission of course). Don't believe me? Watch the video.

This fairly impressive prototype was by the way done during Eve's "golden years", expansions such as Trinity, Empyrean Age, Quantum Rise - Apocrypha, which, unless I remember terribly wrong, is generally hailed as one of the best (or at least most feature rich) EVE expansions to date. Go check for yourself all the things CCP got out, while working on that prototype for Incarna.



Now granted I have no idea what was the reason behind the clustrefuck of an expansion Incarna eventually became, but I think goes to show CCP could do great things and focus on lots of things at once. In fact I think the Crucible Expansion is one of the biggest proponents in this regard - UI improvements, new space backgrounds, bug fixes by the ton, etc, you know what i'm talking about.
And CCP was a smaller company with less resources back then than it is now, they didn't have the PLEX revenue for example.

But frankly, I'm amazed how many people seem think CCP can't do anything these days without completely ignoring everything else than the one thing they are working on.

CCP - I believe in you. Even though you break my heart time and time again.

inb4 Star Citizen

P.S. Threads about WiS start popping twice per week.

So say we all.

2. they have learned from their mistake and will actually have content.