I'm all for them just getting over it and outsource the thing, then everyone would be happy, the spaceships crowd, and the WiS crowd, for with spaceships CCP itself can keep working on spaceships, and the outsourcing would help us WiS fans.

Put it this way, would you rather

-Fight giant space battles
-Colonize star systems
-Extract rich and valuble materials
-Discover stunning and strange things
-Make untold fortunes on a market

OR

-Walk at 2 miles per hour
-Watch a boring holoprojector on constant loop
-Watch your character scratch his/her back ever 30 seconds

WiS on it's current path is unnecessary and ridiculously boring. It's basically what the real world would be like if there was nothing to do and we were in space.

In order for WiS to be worth the time and money it would have to be overhauled in such a way that it's practically a separate game from EVE. Doing so would divert CCPs attention away from their other projects just for the sake of Second Life IN SPAAAACE which as we saw from the tears and rage after Incarna, few people actually want.

In that case I'd be adamantly against it. Every time a developer outsources some part of developing their game, the result is crap. It would have to be CCP who do it, if they ever do.

Not enough, it seems. I certainly don't.

What I don't get is how can they go from "we have 200 pieces of clothing ready to put in game" to ... no new clothing for the past year.

On that note, I would love to see other EVE players hanging out somewhere in Second Life which already has the tools to build interesting avatar spaces. Doomed Ship for example is pretty cool, would be neat to hang out in an internet spaceship with other people who like internet spaceships when I'm temporarily tired of flying an internet spaceship and need a break.

But what if they open the door and it's the same room?

Worse, you open that door, and there's another YOU in the same room, but with only half the IQ, and then he follows you around everywhere in a noob ship making fart noises in local.

But CCP can't be seen to be forgetting flying in ships for walking in stations.

True, but not appearing to finish something that's already been started is equally uninspiring to loyal fans.

Yes !

Open the door !
Right into open space !

Let them all die and make the characters unplayable !


Anyway, on a serious note ... the best part about all this whining is the fact
that it's simply *not gonna happen* in the near or medium future.

But hey ... keep whining, it's enjoyable. ^_^

The questions is which faction is whining.

I think the majority of Incarna supporting part of EvE-Players has shown that they are pretty carefull with not harming the envolvement of the space.

I already stated myself for envolvement, but it is your good right to not do so. I want that EvE survive and gaining more complexity.

I've been pro WiS since well before Incarna. When I started playing I said Eve wasn't for me... I said I wanted an Avatar, but my friend showed me the footage from the old Incarna prototype that was being showcased in like 2006. So I figured I would wait around.

I love Eve now, Avatar or no. But it pisses me off that they've promised so much and delivered so little. Open the god damn door already.

Those of you saying WiS wont add any meaningful game play should take a look at the wreck diving prototype idea. There's more content there than in most of highsec.