A lot of players love building and flying spaceships. Devs clearly love getting payed to geek out and make space stuff. But it's like the fact that this is all taking place in a fictional universe is just the bare bones justification for being able to fly spaceships and form online communities. Where's the storytelling? Where's the innovations in PVE to allow players to immerse themselves, at least to some extent, in the fiction? Where are ANY innovations in PVE to make it more dynamic and alive in order to at least give players a canvass on which their imaginations can fill in the gaps? And don't tell me to go play ****ing SWTOR.

It almost makes me want to go try GW2 instead focusing on a game in which my interest in sci fi immersion and PVE gameplay causes me to be dismissed as a role play carebear by a bunch of leet number crunchers. It annoys me to no end that so many EVE players hate sci fi. There's a sort of middle school-ish peer pressure to treat anything immersive as Santa Claus kid stuff. ****ing goons and other cynical leet "community born" pressure CCP to neglect immersive storytelling and dynamic PVE (and I mean just up to par with other MMOs) because it's not "emergent content" (and not about their stardom) etc. Such a ****ing waste of the world that CCP created.

Don't get me wrong. PVP in EVE is amazing. The sandbox is a thing of beauty. It's extremely awesome that some players have become famous and influential. The communities that have been formed are a unique thing in this world. And I want more people in 0.0 carving out little principalities and creating great dynamic emergent content as much as anyone. If that's where we're going then CCP needs seriously turn on the MWD and get us moving in that direction ASAP. In that case a lesser focus on empire PVE might make more sense.

But even if 0.0 were 10x as dynamic and populated as it is now it would still be great to have an environment in which the professional sci fi storytellers at CCP (who are getting payed for what? Maybe there's only one writer left) are able to tell the ongoing story of this world and give us interesting ways to be part of it. I love science fiction. I want science fiction stories that are woven into immersive gameplay. I don't want it from Mass Effect or Star Wars. i want it from EVE. Can SOMEONE tell me WHY that is so much to ask???!!!

Like banging my ****ing head against a wall.

[quote=Solstice Project]40-60% of the people who play this game want what I want.

GTFO

Yes and no.

CCP mechanics restrict the dynamic nature of the "storytelling" which also create a backdrop for players effecting the story of Eve. Storyline wise Eve should be in a perpetual state of war between the factions, however this is hardly felt in places like Highsec/Low. "Storytelling" doesn't necessarily have to be PVE based, but instead can be used to influence player interaction. People tend to forget this is a MMORPG expanding on storytelling aspect is a part of the game as well.

Part of the point of eve is that the players ARE the story, and they make the story.

Yes, there is extensive lore, and background, but that is secondary to the story which players make themselves.

As was mentioned several times at FF....the stories and events of players are often better than the stories CCP come up with.

The new trailer even hints at the fall of the factions, and CCP seagull was giving hints towards more player based things.


Yes, CCP do events like the Battle for Caldari prime, but, unlike most other games, many events, storylines etc are best when done by players.

Eve to me is absolutely about the story line. I dont really know anything of this 'emergent story', but in essence, for me atleast, and my friends that Eve is a place for us to jump on skype, grab a beer or two, and have fun testing our new ship builds running Level 4 missions. I'd LOVE to be able to try some level 5 missions, that would be awesome...

Ofcourse rules would have to be put into to make sure some goonalt doesn't get voted in and declares a hulkageddon every other day.

You say that like it would be a bad thing

If roleplayers could be voted into government and could call the shots for their faction it would make the storyline a lot more dynamic and immersive. Ofcourse rules would have to be put into to make sure some goonalt doesn't get voted in and declares a hulkageddon every other day.

Okay, okay.
I get your point and you're not one of these dumb, demanding people, as i can see by your post.

That's fine.

But ... 40%-60% people who play this game. If this is the "majority is solo players" thingy,
then i'll just add you on the pile of people who simply don't understand what the words said.

Think about it. If it were that many actual people, then they'd all be dumb morons
because they play a game that totally doesn't cater to them and doesn't make them happy.
For YEARS.

The quote doesn't mean what most people think it means. Mostly because they read it in
exactly the way they want to read it.

Think. About. It.

Thanks.

There are 2 truly great events in MMO history imo - the Murder of Lord British and the Great War. Your "rules" would fail to deliver either again.

Is not understood by much of the playerbase, but the ability of people to play pirates and tyrants is vital to a healthy RP game.

The "rules" aren't trying to deliver that. Events that occur purely due to player interaction will always be far greater than the NPC backstory. The point in making the empires more interactive with the players is to let people who enjoy the backstory become part of it.

A player who gets voted into a factions government could decide to push for an invasion of null-sec. Imagine the four empires faction warfare militia's fighting the null-sec empires for space. It would add a whole new dynamic to the game, increase conflict and also get more people into awesome null-sec PVP.

I'd be all for this. I wonder how high sec people would react when we start dropping SBUs in high sec and taking sov there though.

The game itself is somewhat intentionally left void of NPC interaction in order to facilitate player storylines instead.

"Storytelling" doesn't necessarily have to be PVE based, but instead can be used to influence player interaction. People tend to forget this is a MMORPG expanding on storytelling aspect is a part of the game as well.

Novel writing online?

I'm somewhat agree with the op the there are few backstories inside the game. For people who saying "create story yourself", I would say that you can't create much story until ccp allows player to add more semi-permanent inputs to the game

What do I need Eve for to create that story

If I have to "imagine" all parts of the story why am I subbing?

Some people rather read stories than make them, live them and change them.

Eve is not for these people, books and movies are. EVE is for people who don't settle for being a passive consumers. We are the kids that go through the door to Narnia, you are the kids reading about us.

I totally agree that some people can just play eve without any in game backgrounds, like a fps shooting game.

But being plain hasn't been the intention, I assume.

See, there again you want to be told stories instead of experiencing them.