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BlackDeath Lord
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Posted - 2005.09.30 15:43:00 -
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I was watching this battle and seen Scandinavian wiking's corp kick the hell out of some ships.
I did not know raven could still punch so much into another ship so easy.
I was talking to one of them and he said they were at war with this alliance of over 100 and their corp only 4 members. He was saying how they lost only 1 ship but this alliance as loss about 27 to them, 12 battleship and a lot of Battle cruiser. They are easy to kill.
I never saw a good battle as I watched.
My question if battleship are dead how come they still able to pull a punch.
How can 4 man take on 10 man and win so easy.
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Jessa
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Posted - 2005.09.30 15:46:00 -
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Skill, experience, and intelligence > Numbers, nuff said.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.30 15:46:00 -
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Battleships are fine.
And hiding in a safespot while looking for an easy kill allows 4 people to keep a positive ratio against 100.
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sarah omacha
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Posted - 2005.09.30 15:46:00 -
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They run like flaming bull through mist.
run
run
say bull kill chicken
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.09.30 15:48:00 -
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Common sense, isn't.
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Show Boy
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Posted - 2005.09.30 15:56:00 -
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 Originally by: BlackDeath Lord
I was watching this battle and seen Scandinavian wiking's corp kick the hell out of some ships.
I did not know raven could still punch so much into another ship so easy.
I was talking to one of them and he said they were at war with this alliance of over 100 and their corp only 4 members. He was saying how they lost only 1 ship but this alliance as loss about 27 to them, 12 battleship and a lot of Battle cruiser. They are easy to kill.
I never saw a good battle as I watched.
My question if battleship are dead how come they still able to pull a punch.
How can 4 man take on 10 man and win so easy.
Relate this matter to RL issue is similar as terrorist attack in US. Terrorists can strike and kill some ppl, gain what they possess, but does it do anything to the whole region the alliance controls? it hardly does. maybe fewer miners. this is hardly a war. it's just some empire piracy. i doubt it if they the whole alliance goes after them, they wont run or log. its simply a guerrilla fight. |
Nyxus
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Posted - 2005.09.30 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Nyxus on 30/09/2005 16:28:20
Warping, ships of battle.
Shades of the dead, littering;
Flee! Darkness protects.
<bows to coffee house>
Thank you.
Nyxus
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Konietzko
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Posted - 2005.09.30 19:52:00 -
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I think I can give an experienced answer for this.
1: Battleships are not dead. Used correctly they are still very effective and necessary in some ways. There are many ways that you can configure a battleship to ensure your survival in a hostile environment.
2: A 4 man corp can take on a 100 man alliance because they select their kills in the same way that lions attack zebras or (insert random bush animal here). Small corps will go after the weakest targets, which are usually those that are alone. In 0.0 there is safety in numbers, and when you travel alone you put yourself at risk. A 100 man alliance is only intimidating when they use their numbers against those that are attacking. The 4 man corp will identify fights with a low risk, and rack up large amounts of kills because people are fundamentally lazy and don't protect themselves. Alliances can only produce large numbers in certain systems during certain peak hours. After that the 4 man corp has 30 individual targets alone in different solar systems. This makes it easy for the 4 man corp to score way more kills than an alliance. If the alliance forms a force that the smaller corp can't handle, they move on, hide, run, or find another way to avoid the fight.
Now some may think that these tactics are valid, and others will think they're lame. Regardless they are available for everyone to use. Choosing to do so, however, will label the role that you have in this universe. This can be disadventageous to those that wish to "change their ways". Whenever you attack an alliance with smaller numbers you're considered a pirate, a dirty pvper, and the scum of EVE. <insert random WCS joke/insult here>.
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Recruitment1
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Posted - 2005.09.30 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Konietzko
I think I can give an experienced answer for this.
1: Battleships are not dead. Used correctly they are still very effective and necessary in some ways. There are many ways that you can configure a battleship to ensure your survival in a hostile environment.
2: A 4 man corp can take on a 100 man alliance because they select their kills in the same way that lions attack zebras or (insert random bush animal here). Small corps will go after the weakest targets, which are usually those that are alone. In 0.0 there is safety in numbers, and when you travel alone you put yourself at risk. A 100 man alliance is only intimidating when they use their numbers against those that are attacking. The 4 man corp will identify fights with a low risk, and rack up large amounts of kills because people are fundamentally lazy and don't protect themselves. Alliances can only produce large numbers in certain systems during certain peak hours. After that the 4 man corp has 30 individual targets alone in different solar systems. This makes it easy for the 4 man corp to score way more kills than an alliance. If the alliance forms a force that the smaller corp can't handle, they move on, hide, run, or find another way to avoid the fight.
Now some may think that these tactics are valid, and others will think they're lame. Regardless they are available for everyone to use. Choosing to do so, however, will label the role that you have in this universe. This can be disadventageous to those that wish to "change their ways". Whenever you attack an alliance with smaller numbers you're considered a pirate, a dirty pvper, and the scum of EVE. <insert random WCS joke/insult here>.
Quality post right here
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.09.30 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Battleships are fine.
And hiding in a safespot while looking for an easy kill allows 4 people to keep a positive ratio against 100.
Yeah, damn cowards! Come and face our 100500 BS you big wusses!
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Gaeth hEirennan
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Posted - 2005.09.30 20:26:00 -
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I have 87 kills and no losses to State War Academy. I think they have thousands of members. I guess I am winning. SWEEEEET! I like that logic.
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2005.09.30 22:39:00 -
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Battleships aren't dead. Galente and Amarr battleships make great mining vessels!
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.09.30 22:48:00 -
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Wow, they are heros.
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Gard Stardust
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Posted - 2005.10.01 00:30:00 -
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Warping, ships of battle.
Shades of the dead, littering;
Flee! Darkness protects.
Haiku 4TW
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BlackDeath Lord
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Posted - 2005.10.01 10:38:00 -
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ThatÆs another raven down on the other side by 2 heavy assault cruisers belonging to Scandinavian wiking's corp. So itÆs easy to see a Battleship can be easy took down. Taking to the guy he was saying they where paid to declare war on them and any loss on there part would be paid for so donÆt matter if they loss a few shipÆs if any. The Scandinavian wiking's corp guy said the other side offering 10mill for us to stop the war, way should we when where having so much fun kicking ass so easy. From that raven the Scandinavian wiking's corp pick up a lot of tech 2 ship equipment and what they don't use will sell. He said they should make 10 mil easy if not more from what ship equipment they pick up so far.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.10.01 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gard Stardust
Warping, ships of battle.
Shades of the dead, littering;
Flee! Darkness protects.
Haiku 4TW
shame the first line is wrong 
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.10.01 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDeath Lord
ThatÆs another raven down on the other side by 2 heavy assault cruisers belonging to Scandinavian wiking's corp. So itÆs easy to see a Battleship can be easy took down. Taking to the guy he was saying they where paid to declare war on them and any loss on there part would be paid for so donÆt matter if they loss a few shipÆs if any. The Scandinavian wiking's corp guy said the other side offering 10mill for us to stop the war, way should we when where having so much fun kicking ass so easy. From that raven the Scandinavian wiking's corp pick up a lot of tech 2 ship equipment and what they don't use will sell. He said they should make 10 mil easy if not more from what ship equipment they pick up so far.
2 hacs vs a BS doesnt mean BS are easy to take down dude...
BS problem isnt their survivability its their horrible speed and agility which makes them tactically unreliable in comparison to plated cruisers.
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2005.10.01 22:20:00 -
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i love my raven
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.10.01 22:37:00 -
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No.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Awatar
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Posted - 2005.10.02 09:36:00 -
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Quote:Edited by: BlackDeath Lord on 30/09/2005 18:25:15
I was watching this battle and seen Scandinavian wiking's corp kick the hell out of some ships.
I did not know raven could still punch so much into another ship so easy.
I was talking to one of them and he said they were at war with this alliance of over 100 and their corp only 4 members. He was saying how they lost only 1 ship but this alliance as loss about 27 to them, 12 battleship and a lot of Battle cruiser. They are easy to kill.
I never saw a good battle as I watched.
My question if battleship are dead how come they still able to pull a punch.
How can 4 man take on 100 man and win so easy.
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HAHAHHAHAH you got to be kidding me! The Wikings has only killed 1 Iteron mk II (empty one) and lost a couple of ships to us sounds like very far driven propaganda :D
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Deka Kador
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Posted - 2005.10.02 09:39:00 -
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BS still have a function in Eve despite the frigate-flying squads persistent calls for more nerfing.
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Daneel
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Posted - 2005.10.02 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDeath Lord
I was talking to one of them and he said they were at war with this alliance of over 100 and their corp only 4 members. He was saying how they lost only 1 ship but this alliance as loss about 27 to them, 12 battleship and a lot of Battle cruiser. They are easy to kill.
Before believing any fairytales like this you all should demand some back up in form of posted kill-mails.
Im sure that you all know better than believing posts made by some character that are 2 days 
So please all of you that read and replied to the initial post, go and check posted eve-kills before responding next time
AFAIK, The current result of the war until Sep 30th is ICA losses:
1 empty hauler
1 Frig
1 Interceptor
Scandinavian Winkings losses:
2 BS both Ravens (guess whos )
1 Shuttle
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Manja
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Posted - 2005.10.02 11:21:00 -
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Official statement from Scandinavian Wikings
This hole thing about us beating ICA Alliance is a big lie. We have never talked to BlackDeath Lord or have had any contact with him. We demand from this second that the lies stop, because this isnt funny for either Scandinavian Wikings or ICA Alliance.
Regards Scandinavian Wikings
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BlackDeath Lord
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Posted - 2005.10.03 10:21:00 -
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Then you guyÆs should not pay me to do your dirty work. I have a screen shot off my wallet showing them paying in to my main player wallet. I can send a copy of the chat between them and me also.
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Nuker PayBack
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Posted - 2005.10.03 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDeath Lord
Then you guyÆs should not pay me to do your dirty work. I have a screen shot off my wallet showing them paying in to my main player wallet. I can send a copy of the chat between them and me also.
As Ceo of Scandinavian Wiking's I would like to see that screenshot.
because I want to know who is lying in this case, if it is you or one of my members.
so will you plz send it to my mail [email protected] or just poste a link in this forum.
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PASTOR TROY
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Posted - 2005.10.03 12:27:00 -
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ahh..the ole double reverse propaganda alt reverse double propaganda paid alt scheme eh?
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.10.03 12:37:00 -
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They are defenlty not dead.
As pointed out, they may not always be as fun,, as they are slow as moving and u need to choise ur kill or fleet fight with alot of tactics.
While intys/hacs and so on have the thing of easly run away if needed. And attack straglers in a easy way =)
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Chris Henry
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Posted - 2005.10.03 12:38:00 -
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This is BS...
Next thread...
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.10.03 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: PASTOR TROY
ahh..the ole double reverse propaganda alt reverse double propaganda paid alt scheme eh?
eh?
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.03 20:06:00 -
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what does this have to do with corporation, alliances, or organizations?
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