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Posted - 2013.05.01 15:55:00 -
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Dub Step wrote:TE's may well be overpowered but the point of this discussion is that while they are facing a nerf, they are currently inherently valuable in countering an even more prevalent issue, which is the over-abundance of TD fits; particularly frigates in low sec.
I have met zero TD ships in the last 2 years. Seriously, when was the last time any of us saw a sentinel? |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:27:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Malcanis wrote:The solution I favour is to significantly increase the cap use of TDs. Make it the most cap expensive EW.
It's Amarr EW, after all, and they're the cap race. You mean, after removing the cap bonus for laser weapons on almost every Amarrian ship, the next logical step would be to increase the cap cost of other typical Amarrian modules, just to be in line with the new rebalancing concept ? Sure, why not, didn't want that cap anyway...
The logic in making the most cap hungry ships drink even more cap is flawless |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:17:00 -
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Andrea Griffin wrote:Just wait until tracking disruption affects missiles, too. You won't find a PvP ship in Eve that doesn't carry a TD.
Much like how you cant find any without a falcon in tow... |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:30:00 -
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Dub Step wrote:That is pure bullshit, there are plenty of engagements that dont involve a falcon. Kindly stay on topic.
I see you do sacasm too well. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:37:00 -
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Dub Step wrote:I do sarcasm fine good sir, I simply find it detrimental to a conducive conversation. I.E. this is serious business ^_-
Very well.
I was pointing out via sarcasm that ECM (something some see as overpowered) rarely gets used. TD even more so.
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:49:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:
thats exactly what gave me the idea to do it more and to every ship.
"Amarr race bonus 100% to TDs"
just the primary EW though, not talking webs and nuets and such
That would make the ships that do have the EW bonuses hilariously overpowered. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:06:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Nope. His plan was to reduce the base efficiency of every e-war module by half, then give the according racial hulls a 100% bonus so that on the racial hulls (including those with EW bonus) the results should be the same- on all other hulls the efficiency would be halved.
Not a bad idea, but in my opinion no top priority.
If you want to address racial imbalance, fixing racial drones would be more important imho.
Give Amarr a reason to use Amarrian drones again instead of stinking, filthy Minmatarr or Gallente drones- it makes not much sense that the drone bonus of a hull will give you a bonus to your enemy's weapons.
When was the last time you met a vexor packing ECM or TD?
Its an unneeded blanket nerf to fix a problem that isn't there and would remove a lot of fitting options for no reason. |
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Posted - 2013.05.02 07:02:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:
i havnt seen a TDing archon either but thats not the point.
It is. We can hardly have an issue with TD being overpowered if very few people are using that kind of EW.
Quote:if you want to use EW you cant just stuff the EW ability of a cruiser on a frigate while it can point and mwd and expect the same thing
You dont get the EW ability of a cruiser on a frigate. It sounds to me that you are bitter about people playing smarter than you and rather than you adapting you want CCP to blanket nerf a massive amount of ships. You already have plenty of options to counter these weapons, anerf is not warrented.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 10:43:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:
Some cruisers have 3 mid slots, a frigate like the condor with 4 mids can do more than these cruisers and do it for ever since its also cap stable.
Its a condor...
Web it, neut it and a flight of lights will rip it apart in seconds.
Also, all of my ships tend to be using large turrets, so if there was an issue with TD I would be among the first to notice. |
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Posted - 2013.05.02 12:52:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Why even have roles for ships at all then.
Condor is not an inty or a EW ship but it can tackle and EW at the same time, so why pick an inty or a ew ship....
The very fact the condor is a big enough threat for you to complain about it show just how good teircide is going. |
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Posted - 2013.05.02 13:11:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:
The condor right now is like a crow+mid+cap stability with all 4 active mids using whatever EW they choose for the bargain price of **** all.
The crow is a better tackler, the sentinel is a better TD platform.
The condor is a great little tackle ship for new players allowing them to be much more useful in a fleet.
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im just not as self centered as some of you guys, im thinking of newer players and general balance for the greater good.
How is nerfing their ships going to help newbees? |
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:19:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:
thought this was about the modules?
So why did you bring up the condor? |
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