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Spartan III
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Posted - 2005.10.02 03:55:00 -
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If skills were not an issue (meaning you had them all or were willing to train) than which ship would be the best missions ship for soloing level 4 missions?
I have heard the Apoc is best and the Raven from some, visa versa from others. are these the 2 best ships? If not which is the best ship?
I don't want to start training for an Uber Apoc and then find out it is not the best ship for soloing level 4s. _______________________________________________ Member - [CHRST] Christian Fellowship Foundation
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2005.10.02 09:29:00 -
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Machariel....maybe dunno if you wanted to include faction BS into the deal,, normal BS probably still the Raven or Apoc.
but alot of lvl4`s can be done better with some of the HAC`s, it all depends which mission you are doing to what ship does it best ---------------------------------------------
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.02 09:31:00 -
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Ishtar > anything else for level 4's. ------------------
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Vesk Mael'in
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Posted - 2005.10.02 10:27:00 -
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I'd go with a nightmare or a CN Raven.
But then again I specialize in amarr and caldari
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B0rn2KiLL
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Posted - 2005.10.02 12:00:00 -
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it doesnt have to be a multi bilion ship. ishtar > * ? not. get the bigger, cheaper version, a dominix, its shield tankabale for serpenties missions, armour tankabale for angel missions, and has 750 drone space and acts exactly like the ishtar. just a BS --- When It Absolutely Positively Has To Be Desotroyed. |
Spartan III
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Posted - 2005.10.02 12:19:00 -
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Ok, the its between the Apocalypse and the Raven. The big problems with the Raven are missiles have been nerfed and its missiles can easily be shot down. Is it still better then the Apoc considering these two things. I do not know much about the Apoc can anyone tell me its faults? _______________________________________________ Member - [CHRST] Christian Fellowship Foundation
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Garric Vor'g
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Posted - 2005.10.02 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan III Ok, the its between the Apocalypse and the Raven. The big problems with the Raven are missiles have been nerfed and its missiles can easily be shot down. Is it still better then the Apoc considering these two things. I do not know much about the Apoc can anyone tell me its faults?
Apoc's faults are that it can only do 2 damage types while the raven can choose from all 4. They also have the same amount of drone space, but apoc armor tanks so it's easier to fit a web or target-painter (though it fits easily on both, some people just don't want to put one on their raven). The Raven WITH a target painter will kill cruisers and BS's a lot quicker than the apoc, but (i think) the apoc will be able to tank longer (not sure dont know how long a raven can tank).
Hope that helps
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.02 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: B0rn2KiLL it doesnt have to be a multi bilion ship. ishtar > * ? not. get the bigger, cheaper version, a dominix, its shield tankabale for serpenties missions, armour tankabale for angel missions, and has 750 drone space and acts exactly like the ishtar. just a BS
It might get the job done on some missions but youll get molested on bigger missions.
Especially missions involving republic fleet ships. ------------------
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Lunanie
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Posted - 2005.10.12 10:32:00 -
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With a Raven you can solo all lvl4 missions
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Haram Zada
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Posted - 2005.10.12 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: Haram Zada on 12/10/2005 11:11:47 To make this topic more constructive, can anyone who can solo all lvl4's post-patch, please provide their setup?
The three intresting things I have noticed are.
Apoc Raven Hacs (Whatever Race)
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Lunanie
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Posted - 2005.10.12 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Haram Zada Edited by: Haram Zada on 12/10/2005 11:11:47 To make this topic more constructive, can anyone who can solo all lvl4's post-patch, please provide their setup?
The three intresting things I have noticed are.
Apoc Raven Hacs (Whatever Race)
Raven:
Hi slots: 6 Named SIege Launchers, 2 other things like 250mm's or NOS's Med: Large Shield Booster II, Shield Booster Amp, Cap Recharger II, 3 Named, Faction or T2 Hardeners Low: 5 PDU II's Drones: 6 Wasps Torps: Juggernaut's
With this setup (and some engineering skills) you can leave the Hardeners and Large Shield Booster running forever. Sometimes use a named X-Large shield booster or X-Large Shield Booster II
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Mallik Hendrake
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Posted - 2005.10.12 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: B0rn2KiLL it doesnt have to be a multi bilion ship. ishtar > * ? not. get the bigger, cheaper version, a dominix, its shield tankabale for serpenties missions, armour tankabale for angel missions, and has 750 drone space and acts exactly like the ishtar. just a BS
It might get the job done on some missions but youll get molested on bigger missions.
Especially missions involving republic fleet ships.
The reason the Dominix sucks at missions compared to the Ishtar is sig radius and speed, pure and simple.
-Ishtars take 20 damage from juggernaut torps with a kinetic hardener. Doms take 50-100. -Ishtars rarely get hit by Bs guns if you keep your transversal up. Doms always do because they are fat and slow.
Another thing to bear in mind is that if you run into a long range BS, it's a lot easier to chase down with an Ishtar as you go twice as fast and your drones go 20km further.
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mimik
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Posted - 2005.10.12 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Haram Zada Edited by: Haram Zada on 12/10/2005 11:11:47 To make this topic more constructive, can anyone who can solo all lvl4's post-patch, please provide their setup?
The three intresting things I have noticed are.
Apoc Raven Hacs (Whatever Race)
tempest
highs - 6 x tech2 800mm ACs , 2 assault lauchers meds - LiF, webber, 3 tech2 cap rechargers lows - 2 tech2 large reps, 2 hardeners (rat specific), 2 cprs
only thing this setup has any trouble with are when u get 3 active supreme/elite drones in silence informant area 1 or infiltrated outpost area 2 but both are do-able.
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BlueSmok
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Posted - 2005.10.12 20:45:00 -
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shuttle, can carry those demanding .01m3 reports for level 4 agents :) Setup include assembly of shuttle recently purchased from NPC station! *whew* "Thanks for the one Million isk boss, was a tough one.." -------------=============------------- *** If you're not flying with Hippies, you're not having FUN!! ***
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Zeromancer
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Posted - 2005.10.12 22:01:00 -
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Navy Megathron.
High: 7 x 350mm tech 2. Mid: 4 x caprecharger 2 Low: 1x tech 2 large repairer 1x Cormack's modified large repairer, 4x tech2 hardeners, 2 x true sansha caprelays. 10 Ogre II in dronebay.
With this i can solo all lvl4 missions for gallente.
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Shaemell Buttleson
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Posted - 2005.10.13 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lunanie With a Raven you can solo all lvl4 missions
Agreed it's still possible and quite easy as well. It still the mission runners ship of choice allthough it takes more missiles to kill all the rats now.
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Alejandro Zapata
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Posted - 2005.10.13 00:57:00 -
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Kind of a pricey setup I guess, and pretty skill reliant, but I can do any Level 4 pretty easily.
7 Megapules IIs, 1 Dual Heavy Pulse II 3 Cap Recharger IIs, 1 Domination Webifier 2 Large Armor Reppy IIs, 3 Armor Hardener IIs, 2 Cap Relays
Works good for all deadspace missions, tank holds very well in all missions accept for Unauthorized Military Presence involving Minmatar Ships. Sometimes I have to warp out if using the pulses, so I usually break out the 1400 equipped Tempest.
Best ship tho for level 4 missions...I imagine the Apoc Navy Issue would be just about perfect.
I have a question, has anyone ever gotten creative with the Apoc and its weapons? For example, 8 800mm Repeating Arty IIs? If so, does it work good for missions involving rats weaker against Explosive and kinetic damage types?
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Hotice
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Posted - 2005.10.13 02:11:00 -
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I think Apoc is the best. I use:
5 modulated tachyons(Xray,MultiF), 3 modulated heavy beams(Inf, MultiF)
1 AB 2 T2 Cap rechargers 1 Webber
2 T2 large armor repairers 3 Hardeners 2 cap relays.
This setup can handle any mission and break any boss. As for truely best mission that would be Bhaalgorn. My webber got to 22km range and it can tank just as good as navy apoc but looks better. Got to love the geddon look.
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B0rn2KiLL
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Posted - 2005.10.13 02:34:00 -
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an insured battleship with max cap skills and good tank skills --- When It Absolutely Positively Has To Be Desotroyed. |
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