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Posted - 2013.05.08 00:24:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Quote:How balanced is the cost and effectiveness of a BS compared to a BC? Is a BS really worth 4 BCs? Its very consistent across EVE to get linear power increase for exponential cost increase. Is a Cruiser worth 10 frigates? Is a Machariel better than 5 battleships? I think BS happened to be at a point in the curve which is extremely important because the price point is right where it starts to hurt people, but BC are right there reminding you of how small your performance increase is. We think it fits though. PVEers are making their first long-term investment on a BS usually and we don't want that to be available too quickly, and for large scale PVP BS are the last step before moving to extremely end-game ships and so it needs to feel significant.
It is a longer and more skill intensive train, for a battleship, than it is for a tech 3 cruiser. As has been proven numerous times over the last couple years, tech 3 ships are completely viable, and occasionally used, for large scale PVP. To that end, I would say that BS are the last step skillwise, perhaps, but not cost-wise, and even then, many people never bother with battleships, simply going, Frigate > destroyer > Cruiser > Battlecruiser > Hac/Recon/Logi/T3 cruiser > Faction BS/Capitals, skipping tech 1 battleships altogether.
The new price point is going to make battleships cost prohibitive for pvp. The rokh, Abaddon, dominix, and others are not only getting nerfed for pvp, but the lower end models are going to see a price increase. When the ships already see limited usage, far less than they did 4-5 years ago, how is it justified to favour 'mineral supply prices' via high cost low demand, as opposed to keeping the price of battleships lower, so that more of them blow up, and you actually see a net volume INCREASE in mineral demand? Seems to me this change simply was not well thought out.
That being said, my production lines are running. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:57:00 -
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Theia Matova wrote:I would laugh so hard now when CCP announced that they would adjust the build prices downward. People mass product BSes. Market would really stagger and industrial people would cry.
And I do believe this or buffing BSes has to happen. Because it seems that players are in consensus that BSes are not worth the updated build price.
Lets see when the crap hits the fan it will be messy and smelly.
CCP is just back on there, 'ignore the playerbase. we know best, the end' line of thought. Eventually, a few years down the road, someone will step back, and try to analyze the problem. |