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Verity Sovereign
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
418
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Posted - 2013.05.06 08:15:00 -
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#1) Why so slow... there's battleships faster than this...
#2) Excellent change to test balance of weapon systems and tank types - this ship needs to be more widely available (yes, everyone has one, but only 1, they are irreplaceable)
I predict that projectiles will be the standard fit on this ship
It will be interesting to see if armor or shield fits are standard.
When it has the slot layout for either tank type, and has equal bonuses to every weapon, if any type of tank or weapon becomes dominant, it will be a sign of imbalance. |
Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE
Initiative Mercenaries
796
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Posted - 2013.05.06 08:20:00 -
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Seems like a decent exploration ship for people who can't fly T3s. That's about it, I guess.
Oh god. |
Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno
Malefic Motives
178
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Posted - 2013.05.06 08:37:00 -
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I'm curious what the community would chose as the weapons on an exploration Gnosis? I figured Heavies for the range, but with the nerfs they're pretty bad at applying damage to small targets and you have the grid for pretty much anything you want, I ended up choosing arties but I'm really not sure. |
Cable Udan
The Tuskers
165
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Posted - 2013.05.06 08:48:00 -
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My biggest thought on the Gnosis is how much they'll be selling for in Jita.
I'll keep one, sure. But when I get my 5-run BPC I'll be selling those hulls for as much as possible.
http://chasingtheblueflash.blogspot.com/
My Pirate Blog |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy
Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2013.05.06 08:57:00 -
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Verity Sovereign wrote:#1) Why so slow... there's battleships faster than this...
#2) Excellent change to test balance of weapon systems and tank types - this ship needs to be more widely available (yes, everyone has one, but only 1, they are irreplaceable)
I predict that projectiles will be the standard fit on this ship
It will be interesting to see if armor or shield fits are standard.
When it has the slot layout for either tank type, and has equal bonuses to every weapon, if any type of tank or weapon becomes dominant, it will be a sign of imbalance.
I was almost annoyed when 3 invulns gives me better resists than 1 of each hardener. I've noticed it will do a **** job of passive tank, (unless you use all 6 lows for shield relays.) I'm not sure why but it "feels" like a laser boat to me.
Something else I'll say. Due to the size of the hold it'd be a shame not to use either cap boosters or ASB's depending on tank type. |
Caleb Seremshur
Angel of War
Whores in space
7
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:11:00 -
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Heavy assaults with 2 range rigs and one fuel cache.
[Gnosis, gnosis]
Core Probe Launcher II (Sisters Core Scanner Probe)
5x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II (Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile)
Target Painter II
100MN Afterburner II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
2x Large Shield Extender II
3x Ballistic Control System II
2x Co-Processor II
Damage Control II
Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
2x Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
This fits fine without any implants at all V.
Some quick stats:
Navy - 32km and 290 dps.
Javelins - 48km range and 230 dps
Rage - ~27km and 350 dps
56k EHP with 11k raw shield HP. Regens 46ehp/s.
Cap life 7m.
780m/s with the AB going. (swap the DCU for a nano II and you get about 860m/s or for an OD II for 880m/s)
Also please note this ship uses gravimetric as it's sensor so talon implants can help you there. |
Chi'Nane T'Kal
Interminatus
Aeterna Anima
77
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:29:00 -
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Verity Sovereign wrote: (yes, everyone has one, but only 1, they are irreplaceable)
What? Was there a second round of gifts yesterday after I logged off? |
feihcsiM
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
223
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:12:00 -
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I'm going to have to play on Singularity and see what it can do, but my gut feeling is to fit one of mine full on brawl and go lose it in spectacular fashion, it's not like it cost me anything  :
[Gnosis-Dual Prop Brawl]
[High Slots]
Heavy Ion Blaster II - Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II - Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II - Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II - Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II - Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
[Med Slots]
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I - Tracking Speed Disruption Script
Medium Capacitor Booster II - Navy Cap Booster 800
[Low Slots]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
[Rigs]
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
[Drones]
Hammerhead II x 5
Warrior II x 5
Does 611dps / 686 O/H dps, 54k tank, but oh god it's SOOO SLOOOW! 
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. |
Georgia Aguilar
Blueprint Haus
Get Off My Lawn
0
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:32:00 -
[9] - Quote
So, I am curious, what price point do you see the Gnosis at? Remember, there will be at least a small influx due to the 5 run BPOs (not sure if there are plans to add them as drop somewhere either).
Thanks,
G
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Miyahon
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
1
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:49:00 -
[10] - Quote
The price point was hovering between 190-220 this morning.
I don't expect people will get their 5 run copies until October when they release the collectors edition :shrug: |
Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE
Initiative Mercenaries
797
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:51:00 -
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I don't know how many of the collector sets will sell, but I'm going to just guess 10,000-20,000. I'd say the number of Gnosi in the game will be 500k-600k. There's certainly no short supply of them. Prospectors are buying them up now for a profit later, but I don't think it's worth it.
I sold 2 this morning for 180m each and kept a third one but the prices have come down steadily because of players cashing in on them. If the prices stay too high, they won't sell all that well because T1 BCs are so much cheaper... They're only worth that price tag to explorers who will eventually train T3 cruisers, so that is a limited market. Collectors may feel they're worth something, but they will already have their own anyway.
I think they will be a niche market item which will probably settle around 100m for the players who might buy one or two for exploration. There is also a chance of CCP re-releasing them later, maybe as a reward for the buddy program or something else. They will never reach the value of something extremely desirable like a tournament reward.
Oh god. |
Georgia Aguilar
Blueprint Haus
Get Off My Lawn
0
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Posted - 2013.05.06 11:09:00 -
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Good analysis. I agree with it for the most part, but think a price point of about 150 will be realistic. Time will tell.
G- |
M'iranna
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.06 11:10:00 -
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Georgia Aguilar wrote:So, I am curious, what price point do you see the Gnosis at? Remember, there will be at least a small influx due to the 5 run BPOs (not sure if there are plans to add them as drop somewhere either).
Thanks,
G
I don't think that the collectors edition will affect the prices. How many of those will be bought? Maybe a thousand? That's 5 thousand ships. CCP handed out maybe 100 thousand today. |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
330
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:22:00 -
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I predict that mine will be in a station container, repackaged... along with all the other "gifts" I have gotten in the past...
Look at all the Macks in local...impressive...very impressive...I see you have fashioned a new exhumer...much like you father's...your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen. |
Charlie Jacobson
84
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:29:00 -
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It's an awesome ship with lots of different fitting options. I suspect this will actually be used a lot, unlike most limited edition ships. I will certainly keep one in a can just in case they become an endangered species, but I'll also purchase some to use :D |
Maggeridon Thoraz
Reconfiguration Nation
Existential Anxiety
57
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:35:00 -
[16] - Quote
i think the scan bonus might make the lg virtue set more or less obsolete ? |
Fluffi Flaffi
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:45:00 -
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Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote:Verity Sovereign wrote: (yes, everyone has one, but only 1, they are irreplaceable)
What? Was there a second round of gifts yesterday after I logged off?
Yes. They changed the Sarum Magnate to Gnosis at midnight. |
Josilin du Guesclin
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.05.06 14:22:00 -
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You can do some interesting things with this hull. That said, I notice that the fitting is tight enough that you need to match your weapons with your tank - low CPU/high PG weapons with a shield tank, high CPU/low PG weapons with an armour tank (and HMLs are just plain difficult to fit). So it's a pretty nice shield+beam BC, which is pretty unique, I think.
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Verity Sovereign
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
418
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Posted - 2013.05.06 14:36:00 -
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Fluffi Flaffi wrote:Yes. They changed the Sarum Magnate to Gnosis at midnight.
Wait what?
I redeemed a Sarum Magnate, and then logged on later to redeem a Gnosis...
Did the Magnate dissappear, or convert (will I have 2 of these?)?
Or if you didn't redeem it yesterday, is it not available today for redeeming? |
Fluffi Flaffi
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.05.06 14:44:00 -
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I am not quite sure. But yesterday I redeemed a few Sarum Magnates on my accounts. This morning I logged in another account I from which I haven't redeemed the Sarum Magnate yesterday as he is in deep low sec and have seen, that there was the Gnosis I was missing yesterday. Haven't redeemed them, but I think Sarum Magnate was not in the list anymore. But I am not quite sure. The only thing I know, that yesterday the Sarum Magnate was part of the list, this morning Gnosis (as well). |
Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE
Initiative Mercenaries
800
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Posted - 2013.05.06 14:46:00 -
[21] - Quote
The Magnate was only redeemable for one day.
Oh god. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
390
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Posted - 2013.05.06 15:10:00 -
[22] - Quote
The 1st redeem items list had an expiration date of 1 day.
The Gnosis is good until 6/1 I think..
I shield fit mine with AC's.
700 DPS overheated
55k EHP forgot to overheat, so add15%? Totally omni tanked, no specific tank mods.
1750ish M/S overheated
Best resist is in the hull, so yeah, hull tank ftw.
I like the ship a LOT! I would probably fly 1 or 2 until they die. Then keep 1 or 2 for collectables. |
Verity Sovereign
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
418
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:10:00 -
[23] - Quote
I also note that there are no skill requirements... though obviously it would be nice to be able to use medium turrets/missiles...
A day old noob can jump into this ship.
However... its so damn slow, I thought perhaps this could change.... 7.5% velocity bones per level of Minmatar Battlecruiser -> gets is base speed up to a respectable 165 (206 with navigation 5)
Of course, Minatar BC is also the logical choice for the projectile bonus...
So if I were to change it, I'd add skill bonuses (but not prereqs?)
Minnie BC: 7.5% speed per level, 5% medium projectile per level
Caldari BS: 5% missile damage per level, 5% shield resist per level
Gallente: 5% hybrid damage per level, 10% drone damage and HP per level
Amarr: 5% laser damage per level, 5% armor resist per level
Then it would pwn... ie more speed and resists |
DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
76
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:18:00 -
[24] - Quote
TL;DR Who cares it's a FREE Ship!! It has the fitting slots and bonuses to fit/fly however ANY player wishes it to. It's also a spec ed ship and therefore no amount of complaining of the forums will likely ever get CCP to change anything on it.
Check out my post about some Drone lovin: Proposed Drone Improvement |
Auduin Samson
Do not disturb
Sanctuary Pact
39
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:26:00 -
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I'm playing around with mine as an exploration boat for the time between now and when I can fly a Loki. A corp mate and I ran through a 4/10 site yesterday and came out with some shiny loot, so it's already done a decent job in that role.
I started out giving it a shot as a passive tank but quickly gave up on the idea when I had to warp out of a site twice to recharge my shields in station. Definitely not this ship's forte if you want to do any respectable DPS. I'm now rolling with an active shield tank to see how that works out. I'll probably toy with it a bit more before I settle on anything.
This ship's speed is downright awful. It moves like a typhoon. Being a primarily Minmatar pilot, it's quite a shock to only move at 339m/s with an afterburner on. Kiting is almost impossible without a MWD. Its slow speed is really the only thing I don't like about it.
All in all, I like this ship a lot and can look past the terrible speed due to it's incredible versatility. You can fit it up however you want. The resistances are all evenly balanced which is amazing for a long range cross-region exploration trek. Slapping a couple adaptive resistance mods on this thing lets you be ready for anything you could come across. I'm about two months from flying a loki (another month for the hull, plus a month for some more support skills) and I plan to fly this beast as my exploration ship until then. Or until it explodes. Whichever comes first. |
Nalha Saldana
Sickology
715
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:40:00 -
[26] - Quote
Sure it's slow but it's mass is incredibly awesome so this ship should be flown with a shield tank and a mwd otherwise it will be crap.
It's also a terrible pve ship because it's cap and shield recharge is terrible, buffer fit it with 2LSE and 2 invulns or similar. Maybe it works with buffer tank in the new exploration sites. |
Ra Jackson
CRIMINALS IN ACTION
172
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:45:00 -
[27] - Quote
Josilin du Guesclin wrote:You can do some interesting things with this hull. That said, I notice that the fitting is tight enough that you need to match your weapons with your tank - low CPU/high PG weapons with a shield tank, high CPU/low PG weapons with an armour tank (and HMLs are just plain difficult to fit). So it's a pretty nice shield+beam BC, which is pretty unique, I think.
This, and an armor/missile platform will be the more interesting uses imho. |
Verity Sovereign
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
418
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:46:00 -
[28] - Quote
DeLindsay wrote:TL;DR Who cares it's a FREE Ship!! It has the fitting slots and bonuses to fit/fly however ANY player wishes it to. It's also a spec ed ship and therefore no amount of complaining of the forums will likely ever get CCP to change anything on it.
Yes, its very nice, the first free ship that may actually be useful (without being identical to a t1 frigate *cough* Sarum Magnate * cough*)
But CCP could do a limited release, to test the waters first, and then make it available through LP stores (add a SOCT LP store, and some agents? or just make it buyable with concord LP converted to SOCT LP?).
And my point about it being a platform for assessing balance of tank and weapon types still stands. |
The VC's
Spack Force 5
132
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:54:00 -
[29] - Quote
Hmmm... I'm currently moving to another city right now so I've set battle cruisers 5 in the queue and not been able to log since last week. I won't be logging until next weekend. Have I totally missed out on all the freebies?
The gnosis is awesome, I played around with it on sisi. I'd be gutted if I've missed getting one on tq |
Provence Tristram
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:56:00 -
[30] - Quote
I can't wait for the prices to rise a little so I can sell my Gnosis. It's easily one of the top 5 ugliest boats in EVE. Good riddance when it's gone. |
Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE
Initiative Mercenaries
801
|
Posted - 2013.05.06 17:57:00 -
[31] - Quote
You'll get the Gnosis, you won't get the other stuff though.
Oh god. |
Machagon
Plate of Beans Incorporated
2
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Posted - 2013.05.06 18:04:00 -
[32] - Quote
Where are you getting this expiry information from?
I haven't redeemed my gifts and the Gnosis offer is showing as expiring on June 1, with the rest not expiring until June 5. |
Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE
Initiative Mercenaries
801
|
Posted - 2013.05.06 18:11:00 -
[33] - Quote
Really? I read 6/5 as May 6th so I guess that's a bit confusing.
Oh god. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate
Sailors of the Sacred Spice
1069
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Posted - 2013.05.06 18:36:00 -
[34] - Quote
Riot Girl wrote:Really? I read 6/5 as May 6th so I guess that's a bit confusing.
Yeah, they want ppl to log in for the record. Redeem it while it's still hot.
Standings Improvement Service
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Bea Love
IX Legio Hispana Aquila
Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2013.05.06 18:41:00 -
[35] - Quote
I really like the Gnosis - finally an exploration "all-in-one" for those who don't want to fly T3's :) Thx CCP |
Alberik
Eusebius Corporation
22
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:05:00 -
[36] - Quote
Riot Girl wrote:The Magnate was only redeemable for one day.
i redeemed the magnate with one account with all those other stuff "red star" yesterday and the gnossis today
an other account redeemed everything including the magnate today |
Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp
V.A.S.T.
60
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:33:00 -
[37] - Quote
I think far too much of the Gnosis's DPS potential is in its drones. It's basically a drone boat that also gives you the ability to fit 6.25 effective turrets/launchers of your choice and a tank of your choice--as long as your tanking choice isn't passive shield regen, because it's not very effective at that.
So if you've ever said to yourself "man, I really wish I had a good solid drone/missile shield tanker at the BC size!" then it's a decent choice for you.
But if you don't have lots of skills in drones or don't like droneboats, the Gnosis will be underperforming for you. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
330
|
Posted - 2013.05.06 20:04:00 -
[38] - Quote
EFT snapshot
Did L4 today with it..not bad for a cruiser..i dont have med gun dmg implant so i guess it can dish out 700 dps long range.
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Tsukino Stareine
EVE University
Ivy League
136
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:06:00 -
[39] - Quote
I can think of at least 3 BCs that would do level 4s faster.
This ship has no requirements and is special edition for a reason: it's not meant to outclass anything already in the game. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
330
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:29:00 -
[40] - Quote
That is true but it does have few perks that shouldn't be discarded
Scan bonus on a BC
drone boosted bonus is nice for pro frig cleaning
it look sexy as hell
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1297
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:34:00 -
[41] - Quote
Verity Sovereign wrote:It will be interesting to see if armor or shield fits are standard.
There is no "standard" fit on this ship... You guys should really stop trying to pigeon-hole this one...
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University
Ivy League
136
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:36:00 -
[42] - Quote
It's got an equal bias towards every module in the game, you can do almost anything and it cant be "wrong". However I feel shield fits will be more popular generally since it's more popular than armour already. |
Raptors Mole
The Pheasant Pluckers
113
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:40:00 -
[43] - Quote
It can be made fairly tanky and with the scanning bonus I see a role in locating OGB ships. should have enough tank to hold the OGB ship until friends arrive or perhaps kill them solo.
Thoughts?
Oh and I went Missiles and Armour. |
Darryn Lowe
AD ASTRA Interstellar
3
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:22:00 -
[44] - Quote
I'm going to throw my 2 cents into this.
I like this ship. I'm not really very skilled up in shoot outs but I loaded this up with the gear I had on my Cane and found it to be a much better scan cruiser than the Cane. Obviously because it was designed as such.
Speed is slow but I fitted a 10Mn Microwarpdrive and now get 900m/s out of the ship which is nice.
All in all it might not be for the serious PvPers but it suits my needs perfectly.
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Verity Sovereign
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
418
|
Posted - 2013.05.06 22:23:00 -
[45] - Quote
Ginger Barbarella wrote:Verity Sovereign wrote:It will be interesting to see if armor or shield fits are standard. There is no "standard" fit on this ship... You guys should really stop trying to pigeon-hole this one...
Ok, maybe standard was a poor choice of words, perhaps "skew" or "bias" would be better.
Given that it has a slot layout that favors neither tank type, and its resists are omni* , then if the fits start to heavily skew towards one tank type or the other, then it will be an indication of poor balance between the tank types.
Likewise if the fits start to skew heavily towards one weapon type or another, it will indicate that the weapon type is OP'd
I wish CCP would give us a 3 month period, where if this ship is destroyed, you receive a 1 run BPC for it (sort of like an insurance payout, except instead of isk, its a 1 run BPC), so that people are much more likely to take it into PvP situations, as for a 3 month period, they would be replacable.
A ship type that favors no tank or weapon system has the potential to give CCP valuable insight into their weapon balance.
I think it would be a lot easier to balance the weapons and tanks, rather than to have the weapon systems imbalanced, and then balancing each of the hulls to compensate (ie: this ship uses failguns, so well just crank up hull stats X Y and Z to compensate for the fail of its guns)
*so you don't have a case of: "its good in space with rat type X, and rat type X does damage type Y, which means normally tank type Z (shield/armor) has better native resists |
feihcsiM
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
224
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:01:00 -
[46] - Quote
Verity Sovereign wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:[quote=Verity Sovereign]It will be interesting to see if armor or shield fits are standard. Given that it has a slot layout that favors neither tank type, and its resists are omni* , then if the fits start to heavily skew towards one tank type or the other, then it will be an indication of poor balance between the tank types.
Not quite true. The ship is as slow as hell right off the bat, which negates one of the main advantages shield fits have over armour fits. Whatever you are fighting is pretty much guaranteed to catch you anyway, so I see this ship working better as an armour buffer tanked brawler with close range guns and plenty of room for a choice of webs/TDs/other ewar in the mids.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. |
Will Ambraelle
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.
0
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:39:00 -
[47] - Quote
One thing I like about it not mentioned is its unpackaged volume is half that of other battlecruisers. So I can actually put one in an orca SMB without having to pull nearly everything else out.
Its a nice looking ship though I can see why some don't like it |
Skelee VI
Wraithguard.
24
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:19:00 -
[48] - Quote
Been in fleets with these babies in it, they rock.
Use 425 AC's or 220's. Shield tank.
Awesome ship |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
335
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:10:00 -
[49] - Quote
Cargo bay is god like on this thing
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Hootanany
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:25:00 -
[50] - Quote
Have been able to fit the Gnosis with lazers, an ok amour tank with all the toys for exploration, so no need for re-docking and re-fitting.
Biggest problem is the ship needs to be re-classed down to a cruiser. Found a few DED plex in local area and a Battlecruiser can not use the jump bridge into the site.
FYI this is not for main char BUT the Gnosis is no good as a exsploration ship, Hootanany will be getting it to go camp a gate till it goes #POP#. |
Crellion
Parental Control
Raiden.
32
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:00:00 -
[51] - Quote
Dunno why people complain. The price tag is a bit too high for the added value over tech I BC but that is true for most every bling ship tbh...
There are MANY good fits for it. A few examples:
1) Neutron Basters and shield tank (2-3 LSEs depending on if you are in gang and others tackle or not) MFSII and TEs. The first ever ship I have tried on TQ that has enough mids and lows to be a good shield tank blaster boat without sacrificing tank gank or utility +it has bonused drones to boot. I mean rly think of all the Eagles turning over in their little graves...
2) The 'no damage mod - godly armor tank - utility mids- fit. Pr0 becasue the double damage bonus (drones and weapon of choice) give it credible dps with one or none damage mods. Granted put a lot of plating on this boat and it will sink like a rock... which is why you might want to combine 2xMARs (or them new mods kids use these days) with 2Xeanms 1xdcu 1xdmg mod with accelerator rigs dual med boosters and a 1k cargo hold filled to the brim with 800 booster charges. Wanna diaf but in a manly way? blasters, wanna have a chance if you get a bad warp in? pulses and autos are your friend. Wanna use missiles? Why?
3) I wanna have a laz0r ship with enough mids PLIX CCP!
4) Use them to erm... explore and erm... might profit... a little. The lack of second utility however is non conducive to safety in low and god forbid zero-zero.
5) Are you a mega rich player with a noob alt? Train the alt in gunnery and drones and fittings and have him fly Gnosis... you can leave Spaceship command for next year...trololol
6) Hmmm what ship should I stick my noob alt and his cyno generator on together with 2 webs 2 scrams to get some victims for my 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 friends hugging the Titan... oh you don't say!
7) I am a noob and my corp says I gotta train for inties and dictors to help in teh fleet but I wanna train for BC to do lvl 3 missions.... what to do what to do... Idea!!!!
Seriously can I stop now? Plix? |
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