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Meditril
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2013.05.06 11:45:00 -
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Looks like Amarr have finally found a way to push their farming slaves back to work. Or is there any other explanation why Amarr are are gaining more and more systems back? Maybe the Minmatars have just lost their faith for freedom? What's your opinion? |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
467
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:02:00 -
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minmatar militia needs more farming ground |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
182
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:04:00 -
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minnie lp is diluted, amarr bs and new cruiser changes in odessy look good too guess the farmers are switching sides for a change of flavor i suppose GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Colt Blackhawk
The Amarrian Expendables
128
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:22:00 -
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To answer your question: Amarr mili simply never breaks. Doesn-¦t matter how deep in sh... it is. No we don-¦t have any farming russians. We simply see that tier is PVE only (f... you CCP) and so fweddit started farming like hell :D
Plus the gals left us after united forced of galmil and minmil couldn-¦t get fortress Sahtogas even to 15%. LOLZ. Think they have given up. Plus they somehow don-¦t want to fight. This whole tier 4 thing of the minnies was russian farming horde only and I think many of the minnie PVPers got sick of it and left. Well organised bigger minnie fleets are very rare these days.
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Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance
96
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:28:00 -
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The crew in Sahtogas let the surrounding systems fall because we wanted a good fight, and thought that the slaves would bring some good ones our way.
Now that we've seen they don't have it in them, we're bringing the fight to them. |
Christine Peeveepeeski
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
266
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:06:00 -
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I am no longer in the amarr militia, not because of the militia itself. Amarr militia, best militia. You won't find a more hardened bunch of in your face fighters this side of.... well anywhere.
The pendulum will never stop swinging though. |
Takanuro
The Amarrian Expendables
25
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:11:00 -
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The turnaround is not because of farmers switching. Minnie numbers have still been rising on the most part and Amarr lost players and corps to the enemy side. It's basically hardwork by Amarrian forces who are loyal enough to stand by the Empress.
There is high chance of burnout from this, but hopefully once we get T2 and are able to earn some respectable LP, some farming alts will realise that Amarr @ T2 > Minnie @ T3, especially given the insane demand there will be for the Navy Geddon when the standard Geddon gets turned into a mini-Bhaal. Plus many other LP store items which are high value due to the reduced LP hitting the market over the last couple of months.
We've stood shoulder to shoulder with many a good pilot over the last weeks and it's been awesome. Amarr Victor!
Yes, we're going to die, but you're coming with us!
The Amarrian Expendables are Recruiting |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
931
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:22:00 -
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As I occassionally do, I checked to see who the top daily plexers are and then check their killboards. Fweddit is starting to take the top spots. I am not sure why, but as people here are saying there seems to be some decision on their part to get alts plexing. A few said it was to prove that rabbit plexing is the best way to gain sov under these mechanics. Basically to prove fw sov is broken. I think its amazing some people still need this proof but reading the forums its clear some do. The top vp gainers for a day still usually have no kills that day.
I am finding a few fweddit guys who get some kills though. As many as 6 for the day but usually less. They usually have several others on the killmail with them. Is the amount of vp divided when a group takes a plex, or does everyone get credited with the full vp? I am assuming it is the former, and the top plexers join a fleet either before or after they get their rabbit plexing done.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Tarn Vedera
NOP Inc
0
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:40:00 -
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Basically what happened was a couple different things all coming together.
There has always been a lot of talk in the Amarr militia that the different corps/alliances within didn't really work together towards the common goal. When minmatar made their big push and got the amarr down to 2-3 systems, a few of the larger corps/alliances got together in chat and decided to hash out some things. This resulted in some new friendships being made and a lot of working together.
Here is a bit of an explanation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZsHwOrmq9A
It was easy for those who got all butthurt and then leave the militia to blame fweddit and their alliance for not doing anything on their way out. But it seemed to really have been just a bunch of whiners leaving militia chat. Once fweddit, and their numbers, got focused (along with some smaller, but well known amarr corps) on the task at hand. Well, you see the results. |
Zarnak Wulf
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
1196
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Posted - 2013.05.06 14:21:00 -
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I guess the unemployed Russian masses have their plexing limits. Who knew? |
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Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
931
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Posted - 2013.05.06 14:38:00 -
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Here were the top 20 vp gainers for 5/5/13
Rocko Tsero" victoryPoints="700" Tophination" victoryPoints="660" teric melhaff" victoryPoints="580" Asgrow" victoryPoints="560" /> Zajic Zajicova" victoryPoints="500" /> Leloo Dallas Multipass" victoryPoints="480" /> Green Menace" victoryPoints="460" /> Philippo Cobb" victoryPoints="440" /> Scripet" victoryPoints="440" /> Phelia Star" victoryPoints="440" /> Uczun Pucator" victoryPoints="440" /> Jessica Reiss" victoryPoints="420" /> Salicaz" victoryPoints="420" /> Victor Tequila" victoryPoints="420" /> Druss1979" victoryPoints="400" /> Meta Spectre" victoryPoints="400" /> Jrkan Yarik" victoryPoints="400" /> Elder Kestrel" victoryPoints="380" /> abzde" victoryPoints="380" /> Markiel" victoryPoints="360" /> Zandithious" victoryPoints="360" /> Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Colt Blackhawk
The Amarrian Expendables
130
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:33:00 -
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What we simply see here: F.... pvp in fw. Grab a stabbed cloaky ship, plex the opponent to hell, do missions and earn billions. PVP and fw...LOLZ. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance
261
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:33:00 -
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Fortress Sahtogas That is all.
The Sahtogas crowd doesnt spam militia chat for help and do nothing to defend their system like the Kamela crowd. Nor does it allow plexing in system with 20+ amarr in system either. Take note those who live in kamela.
The below video captures the glory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZsHwOrmq9A |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
657
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:30:00 -
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If it was a pendulum the motion with by smooth and rhythmic.
What you are seeing is more like a wheelbarrow being pushed up and down a long shallow hill with a free nudie-bar at the bottom and a muddy top. |
Meditril
T.R.I.A.D
269
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:35:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:If it was a pendulum the motion with by smooth and rhythmic.
What you are seeing is more like a wheelbarrow being pushed up and down a long shallow hill with a free nudie-bar at the bottom and a muddy top.
I think it is smooth and rhythmic... the frequency is just very low... about 6 months or more per period. Before christmals Amarr started their invasion of minmatar Fw-space and it took them until January or February I think until they for some reason stopped after having conquered everything but a few systems. Then they started loosing ground until minmatars have conquered everything except for two systems a few weeks ago. Now Amarr are back on their turn. Looks rather smooth for me on a larger scale. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
471
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:41:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Here were the top 20 vp gainers for 5/5/13
Rocko Tsero" victoryPoints="700" Tophination" victoryPoints="660" teric melhaff" victoryPoints="580" Asgrow" victoryPoints="560" /> Zajic Zajicova" victoryPoints="500" /> Leloo Dallas Multipass" victoryPoints="480" /> Green Menace" victoryPoints="460" /> Philippo Cobb" victoryPoints="440" /> Scripet" victoryPoints="440" /> Phelia Star" victoryPoints="440" /> Uczun Pucator" victoryPoints="440" /> Jessica Reiss" victoryPoints="420" /> Salicaz" victoryPoints="420" /> Victor Tequila" victoryPoints="420" /> Druss1979" victoryPoints="400" /> Meta Spectre" victoryPoints="400" /> Jrkan Yarik" victoryPoints="400" /> Elder Kestrel" victoryPoints="380" /> abzde" victoryPoints="380" /> Markiel" victoryPoints="360" /> Zandithious" victoryPoints="360" />
those stats are pretty much useless because those do not track cross militia plexing? |
Pax Thar
S.O. Sovereign Fleet
59
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:06:00 -
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Lots of chest thumping here. It could be cause you got your p....s worn out and people got bored, or it could be fortress saht and all the jazz. Take your pick. |
Garr Earthbender
Justified Chaos
152
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:25:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote:What we simply see here: F.... pvp in fw. Grab a stabbed cloaky ship, plex the opponent to hell, do missions and earn billions. PVP and fw...LOLZ.
Confirming, there is no PVP in Faction Warfare. None at all.
Carebear corp killboard. -Rock is overpowered, Scissors is fine. -Paper |
Ripblade Falconpunch
State War Academy Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:01:00 -
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Garr Earthbender wrote:Colt Blackhawk wrote:What we simply see here: F.... pvp in fw. Grab a stabbed cloaky ship, plex the opponent to hell, do missions and earn billions. PVP and fw...LOLZ. Confirming, there is no PVP in Faction Warfare. None at all. Carebear corp killboard.
Hey Garr, I heard you're giving out free ISK. |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
934
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:31:00 -
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Garr Earthbender wrote:Colt Blackhawk wrote:What we simply see here: F.... pvp in fw. Grab a stabbed cloaky ship, plex the opponent to hell, do missions and earn billions. PVP and fw...LOLZ. Confirming, there is no PVP in Faction Warfare. None at all. Carebear corp killboard.
The op is not talking about pvp. He is talking about fw sovereignty and plexing. I don't see the top killers on that killboard making it as a top vp gainer for the days they get those kills. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
934
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:33:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Cearain wrote:Here were the top 20 vp gainers for 5/5/13
Rocko Tsero" victoryPoints="700" Tophination" victoryPoints="660" teric melhaff" victoryPoints="580" Asgrow" victoryPoints="560" /> Zajic Zajicova" victoryPoints="500" /> Leloo Dallas Multipass" victoryPoints="480" /> Green Menace" victoryPoints="460" /> Philippo Cobb" victoryPoints="440" /> Scripet" victoryPoints="440" /> Phelia Star" victoryPoints="440" /> Uczun Pucator" victoryPoints="440" /> Jessica Reiss" victoryPoints="420" /> Salicaz" victoryPoints="420" /> Victor Tequila" victoryPoints="420" /> Druss1979" victoryPoints="400" /> Meta Spectre" victoryPoints="400" /> Jrkan Yarik" victoryPoints="400" /> Elder Kestrel" victoryPoints="380" /> abzde" victoryPoints="380" /> Markiel" victoryPoints="360" /> Zandithious" victoryPoints="360" /> those stats are pretty much useless because those do not track cross militia plexing?
Good point. I can only imagine what it would be like if it included cross plexing farmers. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1380
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:31:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:Fortress Sahtogas That is all. The Sahtogas crowd doesnt spam militia chat for help and do nothing to defend their system like the Kamela crowd. Nor does it allow plexing in system with 20+ amarr in system either. Take note those who live in kamela. The below video captures the glory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZsHwOrmq9A What? You undocked and defended your system (and got tons of fights too)???!!! Bah. |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
935
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:08:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:Fortress Sahtogas That is all. The Sahtogas crowd doesnt spam militia chat for help and do nothing to defend their system like the Kamela crowd. Nor does it allow plexing in system with 20+ amarr in system either. Take note those who live in kamela. The below video captures the glory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZsHwOrmq9A What? You undocked and defended your system (and got tons of fights too)???!!! Bah.
Good questions.
Evekill and battleclinic says he got 29 kills in april and 15 kills in march. But I am assuming there must be an api issue since he does not appear to have pvped at all most of the those months.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1382
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:13:00 -
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Amarrian Vengeance are doing it wrong! They are supposed to stay docked up, hopefully in a system outside of the FW theater and then whine on the forums about how unfair FW is. Specifically, note the lack of kills in Sahtogas. |
Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
38
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:34:00 -
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I'd blame two things.
1. Minnie LP are just not worth much anymore, farmer numbers are going down. 2. Russia has left minnie FW.
Also, this is true:
Stalking Mantis wrote:Fortress Sahtogas That is all. Mad props to the Sahtogas crew.
pew pew |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
935
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:48:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Amarrian Vengeance are doing it wrong! They are supposed to stay docked up, hopefully in a system outside of the FW theater and then whine on the forums about how unfair FW is. Specifically, note the lack of kills in Sahtogas.
Oh I see we are going to switch from asking the poster whether he got allot of fights to then ask whether the entire corp Amarrian Vengeance which does indeed have some good pvpers in it got allot of fights.
Its funny you should compare them too corps that base outside of fw space. In Exile. and I think the Imperial Fedayken base outside fw space. I think if you look at the top pvpers in those corps you will find they generally get just a many if not more kills per month than the top killers in Amarrian Vengeance - especially if you look at other months beside the one month of april when sahtogas was unusually hot.
Again nothing against amarrian vengeance, it has some pvpers in it, but it is silly for XG to say basing in fw space is going to bring in more pvp than basing out of fw space. It doesn't. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1383
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:56:00 -
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Actually, I agree with you Cearain. Amarrian Veangance is doing it all wrong. All these morons do is defensive plex Sahtogas and never get any fights. See their killboard. These guys are the biggest farmers in all of New Eden and if they had courage whatsoever they would quit FW and become low sec pirates. That way they wouldn't spend all their time spinning buttons and would instead get fights.
So, really, I don't know how the subject was switched at all. The player in Amarrian Vengeance clearly stated that their CORPORATION undocked and spun buttons nonstop, and so you looked up his PERSONAL killboard and verified it. I just reinforced your assertion by looking at their CORPORATION killboard instead to show that, yes, they are a fail corporation that never gets fights. Damn PVE'ers. They're everything that's wrong with FW! |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
935
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:05:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Actually, I agree with you Cearain. Amarrian Veangance is doing it all wrong. All these morons do is defensive plex Sahtogas and never get any fights. See their killboard...
Thats not what I said. I have respect for allot of the pvpers in Amarrian Veneance. Yes they probably do have to spend more time defensive plexing. That is perhaps why their top killers generally don't get as many kills as the top killers in the pvp corps that base outside of faction war. April is really the exception to that rule, that is otherwise pretty clear to see.
Yes I see their killboards, do you? Look at march and February as well.
It's pretty clear that defensive plexing a home system is a waste of time that could otherwise be spent pvping.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1383
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:14:00 -
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Yes, it's horrible for Amarrian Vengeance. I really feel sorry for them not being able to get over 700 kills in Sahtogas last month.
If only I could convince my corporation to quit FW so that we could get more kills too. Unfortunately, we have a bunch of carebears who do nothing all day but defensive plex. It's really sad.
I was talking to QCATS yesterday as well. Their kills are wayy down too. I think they should quit FW too. Not enough kills. It's really sad what CCP is forcing Amarrian Vengeance, JUSTK, and QCATS to do all this farming. Our kbs suffer because of it.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
581
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:44:00 -
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Cearain wrote: It's pretty clear that defensive plexing a home system is a waste of time that could otherwise be spent pvping.
Wait, what? I would probaby have to do 15 carrier trips on 2 accounts and several jf runs to move out of my home system. THAT would be a waste of time. And mostly i wait until a wt tries to run an offensive plex, so i get some pvp before i run the timer.
How can you be so wrong about everything? |
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