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Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 56	Posted - 2011.10.19 03:28:00 - [1] - Quote Basic question. Who DOESN'T like the new wardec policy? Sign/like/troll the thread to show your concerns about CCP taking the risk away from high sec because Eve Uni are a bunch of cry babies... Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
EVE Stig Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2011.10.19 03:30:00 - [2] - Quote Har Harrison wrote: Basic question. Who DOESN'T like the new wardec policy? Sign/like/troll the thread to show your concerns about CCP taking the risk away from high sec because Eve Uni are a bunch of cry babies... Id guess you... Whats the new policy lol "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Darth A30NZ Society Of New Eden Studies Violent Society 5	Posted - 2011.10.19 03:32:00 - [3] - Quote CCP: Yo dawg I hear you like War Dec\s so we put a War dec in your war dec so you can declare war while at war. Me: Oh cool
The Apostle The Black Priests 507	Posted - 2011.10.19 03:44:00 - [4] - Quote Risk reduction? Where? When? Who? Oh, you mean it MIGHT cost more so that 2 dollar, 5 minute corps can't wardec everyone for the fun of it? Or will it mean if you intend to wardec someone you better also be wantin' to actually fight? Or will it mean $2 corps can only afford to wardec $2 corps leaving the big boys to slug it out with dragons instead of gnats? Nah. 0/10. Doesn't reduce risk, just means wannabes are turned into doabees. A good thing yeah.... Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
shashe sin State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2011.10.19 03:48:00 - [5] - Quote cry moar pls
non judgement Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance 79	Posted - 2011.10.19 03:54:00 - [6] - Quote Har Harrison wrote: Basic question. Who DOESN'T like the new wardec policy? Sign/like/troll the thread to show your concerns about CCP taking the risk away from high sec because Eve Uni are a bunch of cry babies... Well, if this isn't Poetic Stanziel's alt. I'm going to be really confused.
The Apostle The Black Priests 507	Posted - 2011.10.19 03:58:00 - [7] - Quote non judgement wrote: Har Harrison wrote: Basic question. Who DOESN'T like the new wardec policy? Sign/like/troll the thread to show your concerns about CCP taking the risk away from high sec because Eve Uni are a bunch of cry babies... Well, if this isn't Poetic Stanziel's alt. I'm going to be really confused. Can't be. OP has got 56 likes which means he musta said something clever once or twice. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
non judgement Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance 79	Posted - 2011.10.19 04:09:00 - [8] - Quote Just incase the OP doesn't know. I'd like to point out that Poetic Stanziel killed this topic a few days ago. By killed I mean a slow, drawn out, painful process and in the end it just became a really, really, really bad joke. I think the Goons even got tired of it. Hmmmm, I wonder how long it takes to create 56 alts.
Simetraz State War Academy Caldari State 100	Posted - 2011.10.19 04:15:00 - [9] - Quote I could really care less if CCP gives EVE Uni complete immunity to War Dec's for free.
EVE Stig Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2011.10.19 04:27:00 - [10] - Quote non judgement wrote: Just incase the OP doesn't know. I'd like to point out that Poetic Stanziel killed this topic a few days ago. By killed I mean a slow, drawn out, painful process and in the end it just became a really, really, really bad joke. I think the Goons even got tired of it. Hmmmm, I wonder how long it takes to create 56 alts. hm... assuming one account, you make two every ten hours so 280 hours "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
The Zerg Overmind Rule Reversal Dec Shield 10	Posted - 2011.10.19 04:49:00 - [11] - Quote The new system is great. Now we can offer wardec removal services to the public! Sign up now! Only 50mil! War Dec Removal Service - 50mil
Taedrin Kushan Industrial 112	Posted - 2011.10.19 05:01:00 - [12] - Quote Someone correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't maintaining the dec shield cost at least as much as it would cost to war dec EVE Uni? Meaning that EVE Uni is paying at least as much as it would cost to dec them in order to avoid the decs. By this reasoning, if EVE Uni can afford to maintain the dec shield, any organization with the same or greater amount of money could therefore dec them.
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 57	Posted - 2011.10.19 05:11:00 - [13] - Quote I got the likes for championing FW fixes mostly. The thread is in response to the GM declaration that people can freely hop corps and corps can hop alliances etc..., meaning high sec wars are all but impossible to run as anybody can run from them, thereby making high sec risk free. The dec shield is supposed to cost that much Tae, but there has been speculation that they have a way to make it much cheaper... Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 57	Posted - 2011.10.19 05:14:00 - [14] - Quote Link for people to GM post https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19881&find=unread There is a post later on that says it is not allowed to join corp while in space to gank someone (since they didn't see you as red when u parked next to them in mission, then jumped into corp), but they allow people to avoid wars, which people have legitimately paid their fees for... Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Myxx Atropos Group 81	Posted - 2011.10.19 05:17:00 - [15] - Quote Meh, I think its stupid but whatever. I had a couple wardecs going that effectively had two corps station camped for the last month. They got merc'd because they were decidedly more annoying than they're worth. This will just increase the level of stupid behaviour that goes without reprocussions. CCP really need to fix crimewatch and revamp the war system anyway. People who baselessly accuse others of random **** and expect to not be hunted down for smacktalking the wrong person honestly need to not have that level of protection. That said, on the flipside, griefers of all kinds are crying about it... so whatever. Kinda indifferent about it. It makes getting my point across a little harder with mercs, though.
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 122	Posted - 2011.10.19 05:20:00 - [16] - Quote non judgement wrote: Well, if this isn't Poetic Stanziel's alt. I'm going to be really confused. In preparation for this thread, I created an alt before I even started playing EVE Online. What God Wants, God Gets, God Help Us All
Headerman Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx 241	Posted - 2011.10.19 05:21:00 - [17] - Quote In these part o' town, everyday's a war day. [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img]
non judgement Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance 81	Posted - 2011.10.19 05:23:00 - [18] - Quote Very tricky indeed.
Shadowsword The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva 29	Posted - 2011.10.19 05:44:00 - [19] - Quote The war dec system is screwed anyway. You have nobodies in hi-sec declaring war on 0.0 alliances in the hope they might catch a lone freighter around Jita. But as soon as something that can fight back come, they dock. That's why 0.0 alliances use alts for moving stuff, and don't bother wasting time trying to catch the nobodies. So the war might as well not exist. I'm in favor of anything that can turn wannabe high-sec piracy into real war, and that include raising the cost of war-deccing.
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 62	Posted - 2011.10.19 06:38:00 - [20] - Quote Shadowsword wrote: The war dec system is screwed anyway. You have nobodies in hi-sec declaring war on 0.0 alliances in the hope they might catch a lone freighter around Jita. But as soon as something that can fight back come, they dock. That's why 0.0 alliances use alts for moving stuff, and don't bother wasting time trying to catch the nobodies. So the war might as well not exist. I'm in favor of anything that can turn wannabe high-sec piracy into real war, and that include raising the cost of war-deccing. Read what has been said. This change has made it such that the corp that is decced can RUN from the war without being forced to defend their corp/alliance. It basically means there is no point in trying to perform war in high sec - it is now carebear heaven as the only way to lose a ship now is by suicide gank or stupidity... And the war deccer meanwhile gets to pay isk for concord to allow them to have a war dec issued which is now meaningless... Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
non judgement Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance 81	Posted - 2011.10.19 06:43:00 - [21] - Quote I always think the idea of them fixing the bounty system somehow would be good. I used to always imagined people waiting outside stations for people with large bounties to come out. Pity there isn't another way of having bounties that does away with alts and friends collecting them. They should have a thing where you can select who can collect the bounty. So you just add a corp/alliance and/or single person you'd like to be able to collect the bounty you have put on someones head. They would then receive a bounty notice about it. Ofc it could be (ab)used a bit like the wardec system tho. But at least it'd be a bit harder for that persons alt/friend to collect bounties.
Naran Eto Kut-n-Run 22	Posted - 2011.10.19 06:51:00 - [22] - Quote Simetraz wrote: I could really care less if CCP gives EVE Uni complete immunity to War Dec's for free. Could care less
Htrag The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone 6	Posted - 2011.10.19 06:55:00 - [23] - Quote Its not that I dont like it, I just think its distasteful for something to be deemed no longer an exploit, presumably because enforcement is a pain in the nuts. Noob: Our corp just got war decced, what do we do? Buddy: Well you can setup 18 alt corps and have them all war dec your corp so the costs for the true war dec will be outrageous. Broken.
Naran Eto Kut-n-Run 23	Posted - 2011.10.19 07:00:00 - [24] - Quote Htrag wrote: Its not that I dont like it, I just think its distasteful for something to be deemed no longer an exploit, presumably because enforcement is a pain in the nuts.. You think this is bad, you should see what happened over on starwars galaxies, they ended up with so many people running combat macros and afk farming spawns that they turned round and said they would no longer enforce anti-bot rules unless the bot was specifically effecting another players gameplay (ie afk farming a quest spawn and stopping anyone else from running the quest) because it was taking up too much of their GM time.
Herping yourDerp Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 168	Posted - 2011.10.19 07:02:00 - [25] - Quote Pros Isk sink helps prevent single person griefing a large alliance war requires more commitment griefer tears Cons bad forum post if you can't afford a dec shield your gonna be deced
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 123	Posted - 2011.10.19 07:16:00 - [26] - Quote Herping yourDerp wrote: Isk sink Unless you game the system, so that you pay only a small fraction of the intended cost. What God Wants, God Gets, God Help Us All
Skunk Gracklaw GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 162	Posted - 2011.10.19 07:18:00 - [27] - Quote If there is a game mechanic that makes Poetic Stanziel mad then I'm all for it.
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 62	Posted - 2011.10.19 07:43:00 - [28] - Quote Skunk Gracklaw wrote: If there is a game mechanic that makes Poetic Stanziel mad then I'm all for it. What about if there is one that makes other people unhappy??? You know, since it allows person who knows the magic hax to have free dec shield while everyone else has to pay full isk??? You know, kind of like when monkeysphere magic was happening and he was a l33t pvp person and everyone else sucked as they didn't know how to do it... Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Skunk Gracklaw GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 164	Posted - 2011.10.19 07:46:00 - [29] - Quote Har Harrison wrote: Skunk Gracklaw wrote: If there is a game mechanic that makes Poetic Stanziel mad then I'm all for it. What about if there is one that makes other people unhappy??? You know, since it allows person who knows the magic hax to have free dec shield while everyone else has to pay full isk??? Considering the kinds of corps that regularly wardec eve-uni they have it coming. There is also no hacking involved with what they are doing and CCP has stated that it's not an exploit.
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 62	Posted - 2011.10.19 07:48:00 - [30] - Quote Skunk Gracklaw wrote: Har Harrison wrote: Skunk Gracklaw wrote: If there is a game mechanic that makes Poetic Stanziel mad then I'm all for it. What about if there is one that makes other people unhappy??? You know, since it allows person who knows the magic hax to have free dec shield while everyone else has to pay full isk??? Considering the kinds of corps that regularly wardec eve-uni they have it coming. There is also no hacking involved with what they are doing and CCP has stated that it's not an exploit. And what about corps that want to dec corps besides Eve Uni??? What if a corp wanted to dec a corp to push players out of a system or remove a POS etc... and the players jump corp and laugh or the POS is untouchable due to moving to a new alliance... Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!

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