Originally by: Jolal

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We know the game has a lot of miners/industrial people in it. Someone has to make the BS's... How about making it take longer to lock a mining barge (cuz we know they're slow to warp away)? This effect would be both for human players and npc's. This would attract more people into 0.0. We know that mining barges aren't going to be used in fleet battles, and they make bad spy boats. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying make them invulnerable, but stick an apoc and a covetor in the same system in 0.0 and I'd be willing to bet money on the outcome

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Originally by: Jolal

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We know the game has a lot of miners/industrial people in it. Someone has to make the BS's... How about making it take longer to lock a mining barge (cuz we know they're slow to warp away)? This effect would be both for human players and npc's. This would attract more people into 0.0. We know that mining barges aren't going to be used in fleet battles, and they make bad spy boats. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying make them invulnerable, but stick an apoc and a covetor in the same system in 0.0 and I'd be willing to bet money on the outcome

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Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight

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to many gate camps not enuth gates, its the pepople in 0.0 who keep the people out of 0.0

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Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight

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to many gate camps not enuth gates, its the pepople in 0.0 who keep the people out of 0.0

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Originally by: Christopher Scott

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EVE is a PvP game. Everyone who bought a subscription on day one was sold on this being a total PvP game. Whether it's fighting over space, resources, or market control, there would always be a player versus player element.

Agent missions in CONCORD space add NOTHING to the player versus player element. You can become rich and powerful, with all of the best gear, by doing nothing but deadspace agents. You NEVER have to talk to another player, nor will you ever face any sort of competition. This is fine when you are starting out and learning the game.

But when you can spawn on-demand deadspace battleship comlexes that help you earn faction battleships in CONCORD protected space, with absolutely NO KIND of player versus player element possible, that is going way too far. When a complete PvE aspect of the game becomes more practical and profitable than all the other PvP aspects, then EVE is nothing more than World Of Warcraft in space.

Agent missions are the most unbalanced moneymaker in this game. All of the agent hubs are being camped so hard that CCP has to spread them out in order to fix all the cluster******* that is going on. If that is not a blaring siren to the problem, I don't know what else will convince you.


Are there any 5/10 or 6/10 complexes in CONCORD space? What would people say if CCP moved all the 6/10 complexes into .5 sec and up?

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Originally by: Christopher Scott

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EVE is a PvP game. Everyone who bought a subscription on day one was sold on this being a total PvP game. Whether it's fighting over space, resources, or market control, there would always be a player versus player element.

Agent missions in CONCORD space add NOTHING to the player versus player element. You can become rich and powerful, with all of the best gear, by doing nothing but deadspace agents. You NEVER have to talk to another player, nor will you ever face any sort of competition. This is fine when you are starting out and learning the game.

But when you can spawn on-demand deadspace battleship comlexes that help you earn faction battleships in CONCORD protected space, with absolutely NO KIND of player versus player element possible, that is going way too far. When a complete PvE aspect of the game becomes more practical and profitable than all the other PvP aspects, then EVE is nothing more than World Of Warcraft in space.

Agent missions are the most unbalanced moneymaker in this game. All of the agent hubs are being camped so hard that CCP has to spread them out in order to fix all the cluster******* that is going on. If that is not a blaring siren to the problem, I don't know what else will convince you.


Are there any 5/10 or 6/10 complexes in CONCORD space? What would people say if CCP moved all the 6/10 complexes into .5 sec and up?

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Originally by: Tesha Marill

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Actually, Economic Warfare is much more powerful than any Combat PvP Ubership ever could be. So you have a huge carebear corp that owns a HUGE chunk of 0.0 and mines and produces everything under the sun. If little old me that can't solo a lvl 3 agent mission convinces all you're major partners not to buy your products anymore, where does that leave the big corp? Where will the gankers get their equipment? I'm not downplaying the validity of anyones chosen style of play, but the fact is that unless you want to participate in PvP COMBAT, 0.0 is simply a good way to lose a crap-ton of isk. My suggestion? Split the galaxy into quadrants. Put a major empire in each corner. 0.0 in the middle and around the outside. Make travel between the empires dangerous. What you'll end up with is a PLAYER run area of space in the middle. The center of the galaxy is the ideal place for anyone involved in anything non-combative. So make the players run it. Let the people that don't want to interact with other players stay in their corner, and the rest of us can fight over the ground in the middle. Even from an RP standpoint this makes sense. None of the empires are all THAT trusting of each other...if someone were to push a little, they might decide that the best way to keep their loyal citizens safe is to move farther away from everyone else, leaving a vacant sector for the alliances and mega-corps to fill. Maybe this is caused by some galactic plague that strikes every planet simultaneously, making the current worlds uninhabitable. Maybe it's just sheer distrust. This is what i think of when i hear the word "Exodus" anyway. Not the players leaving empire, but empire leaving behind the players. Let's face it, an exodus occurs so that a people can get away from something, not so that they can get something...that's called a gold rush.
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Originally by: Tesha Marill

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Actually, Economic Warfare is much more powerful than any Combat PvP Ubership ever could be. So you have a huge carebear corp that owns a HUGE chunk of 0.0 and mines and produces everything under the sun. If little old me that can't solo a lvl 3 agent mission convinces all you're major partners not to buy your products anymore, where does that leave the big corp? Where will the gankers get their equipment? I'm not downplaying the validity of anyones chosen style of play, but the fact is that unless you want to participate in PvP COMBAT, 0.0 is simply a good way to lose a crap-ton of isk. My suggestion? Split the galaxy into quadrants. Put a major empire in each corner. 0.0 in the middle and around the outside. Make travel between the empires dangerous. What you'll end up with is a PLAYER run area of space in the middle. The center of the galaxy is the ideal place for anyone involved in anything non-combative. So make the players run it. Let the people that don't want to interact with other players stay in their corner, and the rest of us can fight over the ground in the middle. Even from an RP standpoint this makes sense. None of the empires are all THAT trusting of each other...if someone were to push a little, they might decide that the best way to keep their loyal citizens safe is to move farther away from everyone else, leaving a vacant sector for the alliances and mega-corps to fill. Maybe this is caused by some galactic plague that strikes every planet simultaneously, making the current worlds uninhabitable. Maybe it's just sheer distrust. This is what i think of when i hear the word "Exodus" anyway. Not the players leaving empire, but empire leaving behind the players. Let's face it, an exodus occurs so that a people can get away from something, not so that they can get something...that's called a gold rush.
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