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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:13:00 -
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Somewhat flaky: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3014363#post3014363 |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:27:00 -
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Don't panic.
I also don't get why we need yet another useless launcher, but for now it's just on singularity and still a beta. This is what beta versions are for, so don't catastrophise. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:31:00 -
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Mikail Thiesant wrote:One question maybe. As you see on this image: http://clip2net.com/s/51WUwyLeft under the missing login thing there is missing image too. (One image is about HD Stream, the second is budy program) Basically it is a link to account management. And it behaves like the missing login. One time it loads the images second it dont. So do you think it might be the same error? Sorry I have basically like no knowledge about those things. I just try to make some noise to wake up those linux users that do have :-)
Funny thing is, these images don't create debug log entries when they don't load. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.15 23:48:00 -
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Katrina Bekers wrote:In WINE we can select which version of Windows we present to the programs. IIRC, they can go from 95/98 all the way to 8.
I think that this setting doesn't do much anymore, besides changing a few registry keys to make the programs "believe" that they are actually running on Windows NT 5.1, 6.0 and what have you. I haven't had a single case where altering this setting changed anything except for steam complaining that my "Windows" was too old. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.17 22:17:00 -
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Just out of interest, what's wrong with ingame logins and why do we need a launcher at all? Every game getting a (most of the time more or less crappy and useless) web based Launcher has become a thing in the last few years and I don't really see why.
We don't really need the launcher for patching, as the game itself recognizes if it is out of date and can initiate a patcher program all by itself - we had that in the past and this still works if the game is launched via ExeFile.exe. We also certainly don't need it for news or game related offers. We have news at the character selection screen and offers at the login screen and to be honest, if I happen to want news, I can find them myself without having them shoved in my face every gently caressing time I start Eve.
I am not saying that you should not do something because it might break wine compatibility. By all means, don't hold back features because they don't work well with some goofy 3rd party virtualisation layer for the wrong OS, the Linux community is like the Borg, we will adapt. At most we will suffer some inconveniences for a while until some dude who knows his **** comes up with a fix, we are used to that. But the thing is, from what I can see, the launcher doesn't add anything but fluff and possible error sources. Launchers are annoying and useles even when they work. Are "Never change a running system!" and "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" not a thing anymore these days? |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.20 00:35:00 -
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Miao Sajuuk wrote:BTW: Python is a cross-platform programming language, most of your code can be reused. I have not used mac version, but if you put it ported to OpenGL, it should be easy to ported to Linux.
True, porting just the launcher alone to linux would probably not be a problem, but what would be the point? The launcher would then have to take wine into account when launching the game and wine development is a thing CCP don't have control over. Also they would have to maintain an additional version of the launcher for a system they don't support. It would just be unreasonable from a business standpoint.
Porting the game itself to linux, and that has been said about a thousand times would not be that easy. True, the client uses python and python is platform independent. But the engine is written in C++ (thus the need for the Microsoft Visual C++ "msvcr" libs) and utilises direct X, which is not available on linux. The Mac version is not a proper port. It is the Windows client, bundled with Cider (like wine, just worse but with commercial support) with a fancy Apple label. So no porting to OpenGL has been done.
On top of that, just because python is cross-platform that doesn't mean that a python program will run without issues on any platform if it wasn't designed with those platforms in mind. The engine would have to be rewritten completely for platform portability and opengl compatibility and most of the code would have to be reviewed at least. Doing that would be time consuming, expensive and downright silly at this point. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.21 19:15:00 -
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Hilarious overreactions aside, above me has a point. You were trying to pull a surprise open heart surgery here and it's coming back at you now. But you probably know that already. Overtime incoming. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.21 19:36:00 -
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I'm not gonna stop you, all the power to you man. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:37:00 -
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Anun Hen wrote:If we can get that Error -7 issue fixed, we would be back in business what puzzles me is why it works perfectly the 1st time and never again after that.
It does seem to work one out of ten times after the first launch. But I am with the Devs here, it's most likely a wine problem. Since the thing is live now, maybe someone should go and issue a bug report? I would do it myself but that would take effort.
I might still do it at some point if none of you is less lazy than I am. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.04 13:45:00 -
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Are you running the awesomium patch? If not I am not sure why it worked for you at all. It did not stop doing the -7 thing at any point on vanilla wine for me. |
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