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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:21:00 -
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Check out our latest Dev Blog from CCP Veritas, covering just some of the statistical analysis of the CSM8 elections and our switch to a Single Transferable Vote System. You can find the blog here. CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
399
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:22:00 -
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I would like to personally apologize for the delay in the publication of this blog and the full list of ballots. In preparing for the blog we discovered that 3 of the 49,702 votes had somehow entered the same candidates into multiple preference slots. This action provides no advantage in a Wright-STV election, but we wanted to take the time to figure out how these votes were generated and that they were not indicative of a larger problem.
After some extensive testing we are fairly certain that, while fiddling with the ballot website, a user(s) found a way to modify his own vote submission in the backend of the ballot that created duplication of a single candidate in their ballot. This was limited to only their own individual ballot selection and had no effect on the outcome of the election. We will be sure that we add a check for this ballot error in the future. Because candidate duplication provides no advantage in a Wright-STV election, we have not removed these ballots, and they can still be found in the blog linked above.
CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
836
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:25:00 -
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
3697
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:26:00 -
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I did a quick analysis on the ballot data. My script is at http://dontshootx.com/tsvote.txt
The output:
Quote:Bloc - CFC (Kaleb Rysode, mynnna, Kesper North) Top Votes 5287 (10% of votes) Complete Votes 4423 (8% of votes) Partial Votes 0 Solo Votes 113 Total Votes 9823 (19% of votes)
Bloc - Wormhole (Cipreh, Nathan Jameson, Chitsa Jason, James Arget, Ayeson) Top Votes 1535 (3% of votes) Complete Votes 1339 (2% of votes) Partial Votes 4383 Solo Votes 670 Total Votes 7927 (15% of votes)
Bloc - HBC (Sort Dragon, Banlish, Sala Cameron) Top Votes 2728 (5% of votes) Complete Votes 7917 (15% of votes) Partial Votes 0 Solo Votes 312 Total Votes 10957 (22% of votes)
Bloc - Trebor (Ripard Teg, Roc Wieler, Nathan Jameson, Trebor Daehdoow, Malcanis, Mangala Solaris, Mike Azariah, Korvin, Corebloodbrothers, James Arget, Ali Aras) Top Votes 21 (0% of votes) Complete Votes 579 (1% of votes) Partial Votes 22276 Solo Votes 2760 Total Votes 25636 (51% of votes)
Bloc - Russians (Greene Lee, Korvin) Top Votes 1128 (2% of votes) Complete Votes 1559 (3% of votes) Partial Votes 0 Solo Votes 987 Total Votes 3674 (7% of votes)
Bloc - N3 (progodlegend, Travis Musgrat) Top Votes 1425 (2% of votes) Complete Votes 4192 (8% of votes) Partial Votes 0 Solo Votes 382 Total Votes 5999 (12% of votes)
Bloc - Provi (Corebloodbrothers, Ali Aras) Top Votes 1230 (2% of votes) Complete Votes 4457 (8% of votes) Partial Votes 0 Solo Votes 610 Total Votes 6297 (12% of votes)
Non Bloc Votes 12569 (25% of votes)
Notes on the output: Partial Votes are where 3 or more of the "bloc" members were on a given ballot. Top Votes are when *all* the bloc members are at the top of a ballot, in any order. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9176
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:30:00 -
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In before someone who's good at maths (not me) uses this to prove I shouldn't have been elected.
nn all.
1 Kings 12:11
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1385
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:31:00 -
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Any chance of a quick breakdown of which rounds people were eliminated int? (Or will I have to go and use the code to find that out?) Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
401
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:34:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Any chance of a quick breakdown of which rounds people were eliminated int? (Or will I have to go and use the code to find that out?)
I'm sure some kind soul will post the output of CCP Veritas's program which does it quite well. I know several CSM's already have the output. CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
3697
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:34:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Any chance of a quick breakdown of which rounds people were eliminated int? (Or will I have to go and use the code to find that out?)
The output of CCP Veritas' script is at http://dontshootx.com/auditLog.txt if you want to see it. Trebor has a modified script that outputs a little more detail, but I will let him link it. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1385
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:37:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Any chance of a quick breakdown of which rounds people were eliminated int? (Or will I have to go and use the code to find that out?) I'm sure some kind soul will post the output of CCP Veritas's program which does it quite well. I know several CSM's already have the output.
Two step wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Any chance of a quick breakdown of which rounds people were eliminated int? (Or will I have to go and use the code to find that out?) The output of CCP Veritas' script is at http://dontshootx.com/auditLog.txt if you want to see it. Trebor has a modified script that outputs a little more detail, but I will let him link it.
I got impatient (after about 5 seconds ) and ran it myself.
Order of Elimination (First eliminated, to last eliminated):
DaeHan Minhyok Cipreh Kaleb Rysode Awol Aurix Artctura Ayeson PsychoBitch Roc Wieler riverini Travis Musgrat Unforgiven Storm Corebloodbrothers Steve Ronuken Psychotic Monk Greene Lee Banlish Nathan Jameson Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Bagehi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
160
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:38:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:In before someone who's good at maths (not me) uses this to prove I shouldn't have been elected.
nn all. Looks like you were voted in by the HBC bloc vote and your own voters. Congrats! |
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Dierdra Vaal
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
255
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:44:00 -
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Do you have any stats about the percentage of people who voted AND are in corps and alliances that hold sovreignty AND whose votes were different than the following collection (ignoring candidate order):
Quote:['mynnna', 'Kesper North', 'Kaleb Rysode', 'Sort Dragon', 'Sala Cameron', 'Banlish', 'Artctura', 'Malcanis', 'Unforgiven Storm', 'Awol Aurix', 'DaeHan Minhyok', 'Mangala Solaris', 'Psychotic Monk', 'James Arget']
Veto #205 * * * Director Emeritus at EVE University * * * CSM1 delegate, CSM3 chairman and CSM5 vice-chairman |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
707
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:47:00 -
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Dierdra Vaal wrote:Quote:['mynnna', 'Kesper North', 'Kaleb Rysode', 'Sort Dragon', 'Sala Cameron', 'Banlish', 'Artctura', 'Malcanis', 'Unforgiven Storm', 'Awol Aurix', 'DaeHan Minhyok', 'Mangala Solaris', 'Psychotic Monk', 'James Arget'] Do you have any stats about the percentage of people who voted AND are in corps and alliances that hold sovreignty AND whose votes were different than the above collection (ignoring candidate order), relative to the amount of people who voted AND are in corps and alliances that hold sovreignty? Or in other words: how many 0.0 pilots disregarderd bloc voting orders? Ballots are anonymized. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
5718
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:47:00 -
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Dierdra Vaal wrote:Quote:['mynnna', 'Kesper North', 'Kaleb Rysode', 'Sort Dragon', 'Sala Cameron', 'Banlish', 'Artctura', 'Malcanis', 'Unforgiven Storm', 'Awol Aurix', 'DaeHan Minhyok', 'Mangala Solaris', 'Psychotic Monk', 'James Arget'] Do you have any stats about the percentage of people who voted AND are in corps and alliances that hold sovreignty AND whose votes were different than the above collection (ignoring candidate order), relative to the amount of people who voted AND are in corps and alliances that hold sovreignty? Or in other words: how many 0.0 pilots disregarderd bloc voting orders?
We don't have any way to tie votes to characters or accounts. It's fully anonymous. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1077
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:48:00 -
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ah, the csm tags changed hands
i hope you drycleaned them |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
406
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:50:00 -
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Dierdra Vaal wrote:Quote:['mynnna', 'Kesper North', 'Kaleb Rysode', 'Sort Dragon', 'Sala Cameron', 'Banlish', 'Artctura', 'Malcanis', 'Unforgiven Storm', 'Awol Aurix', 'DaeHan Minhyok', 'Mangala Solaris', 'Psychotic Monk', 'James Arget'] Do you have any stats about the percentage of people who voted AND are in corps and alliances that hold sovreignty AND whose votes were different than the above collection (ignoring candidate order), relative to the amount of people who voted AND are in corps and alliances that hold sovreignty? Or in other words: how many 0.0 pilots disregarderd bloc voting orders?
Our voting database is completely anonymous. We know what accounts voted, but we cannot associate an account with their ballot. We want ensure that our ballots are always secret ballots. CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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Kadl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:52:00 -
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CCP Veritas wrote:Now that a voters opinion is more likely to actually count towards the results of the election, our next big push will be towards visibility and voter turnout for the CSM9 elections.
Thank you for at least mentioning this.
Please also consider improving or training people on the voting method (not voting system). Some possible improvements are: 1) reviewing the UI now that you have time, 2) using the UI for a poll about something else (silly is fine), so that people can be comfortable with it, 3) suggested ballot setups (a link to a filled out ballot that someone can modify). |
Tanaka Aiko
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
169
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:55:00 -
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Nathan was eliminated last, the WH bloc almost got 3 candidates on 5... |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce
492
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:56:00 -
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Kadl wrote:CCP Veritas wrote:Now that a voters opinion is more likely to actually count towards the results of the election, our next big push will be towards visibility and voter turnout for the CSM9 elections. Thank you for at least mentioning this. Please also consider improving or training people on the voting method (not voting system). Some possible improvements are: 1) reviewing the UI now that you have time, 2) using the UI for a poll about something else (silly is fine), so that people can be comfortable with it, 3) suggested ballot setups (a link to a filled out ballot that someone can modify). A little things suggestion website and vote would be a great turnout and training test. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1075
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:59:00 -
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Null bloc votes, as identified by Two Step: 9823+10957+5999 = 26799, 53.9% of the votes
Null bloc candidates: Five (Myself, Kesper, Sort, Sala and Progodlegend), which is about 35% of the council. I suppose you could count Malcanis as well, as the HBC ballot was instrumental in electing him and he is technically part of the bloc, but even that's only 42%.
Basically, I'm saying that I think the people who were claiming that STV is all about rigging it for nullsec (ya'll know who you are) can put down their tinfoil hats. If anything we're under represented. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
707
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:01:00 -
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all hail mynnna First Citizen of the CSM with his momentous victory over Ripard for the #1 slot |
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
3700
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:03:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Null bloc votes, as identified by Two Step: 9823+10957+5999 = 26799, 53.9% of the votes Null bloc candidates: Five (Myself, Kesper, Sort, Sala and Progodlegend), which is about 35% of the council. I suppose you could count Malcanis as well, as the HBC ballot was instrumental in electing him and he is technically part of the bloc, but even that's only 42%. Basically, I'm saying that I think the people who were claiming that STV is all about rigging it for nullsec (ya'll know who you are) can put down their tinfoil hats. If anything we're under represented.
And the "Trebor" Bloc has 51% of the vote, so STV was clearly designed to prevent nullsec candidates from getting elected. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
2902
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:05:00 -
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My independent Wright-STV script has a mode that generates a more verbose output. Here are the results for the 14-seat and 2-seat elections.
My results confirm those of CCP Veritas' script. On CSM, masochism is not an option -- it's a requirement! |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
406
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:08:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:all hail mynnna First Citizen of the CSM with his momentous victory over Ripard for the #1 slot
In an STV-1 election (just for fun, it's completely irrelevant to this election) Mynnna beats Ripard by only 89 votes. CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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Komen
Capital Enrichment Services Existential Anxiety
182
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:08:00 -
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So many graphs.
For the record, I voted a full ticket. My #1 (Cipreh) didn't make it, but I'm pretty happy with the voting results. A good balance of players from different backgrounds, and wormholers definitely got in.
Let's see some cool ****, CSM8. |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
3701
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:15:00 -
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There were some questions on twitter about what order people were elected. There are a number of ways to compute this, one way is to run the election for 1 seat, then 2, then 3, etc. If you do that, you get this order:
1) mynnna 2) Ripard Teg 3) Mangala Solaris 4) Sort Dragon 5) Chitsa Jason 6) Trebor Daehdoow 7) Ali Aras 8) Kesper North 9) progodlegend 10) James Arget 11) Korvin 12) Sala Cameron 13) Malcanis 14) Mike Azariah CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
2902
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:20:00 -
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[quote=mynnnaI suppose you could count Malcanis as well, as the HBC ballot was instrumental in electing him and he is technically part of the bloc, but even that's only 42%.[/quote] Malcanis was a double-agent for the Evil CSM Cabal of Evil.
The ECCE had 11 members: Korvin, Malcanis, Ali Aras, corebloodbrothers, James Arget, Mangala Solaris, Roc Wieler, Mike Azariah, Nathan Jameson, Ripard Teg and myself. We all worked cooperatively to cross-support each other and get out the vote, and 8 of the 11 were elected.
I had expected the ECCE to grab 6 seats, with a good chance of 7. But reduced nullsec turnout, especially in the HBC, gave us an extra seat.
In the end, I think STV did everything I hoped it would. It delivered a diverse CSM, full of knowledgeable, professional worker-bees. We're already up and running in our private Skype channel, and getting connected to CCP. On CSM, masochism is not an option -- it's a requirement! |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
707
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:22:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote: I had expected the ECCE to grab 6 seats, with a good chance of 7. But reduced nullsec turnout, especially in the HBC, gave us an extra seat.
yeah the big story of this election was how staggeringly bad the HBC is at this voting thing |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1297
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:25:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:yeah the big story of this election was how staggeringly bad the HBC is at this voting thing
Correction: "Was" :v "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1385
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:29:00 -
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A 15 person CSM: "Ali Aras" "Banlish" "Chitsa Jason" "James Arget" "Kesper North" "Korvin" "Malcanis" "Mangala Solaris" "Mike Azariah" "mynnna" "progodlegend" "Ripard Teg" "Sala Cameron" "Sort Dragon" "Trebor Daehdoow"
At 16: "Ali Aras" "Chitsa Jason" "James Arget" "Kaleb Rysode" "Kesper North" "Korvin" "Malcanis" "Mangala Solaris" "Mike Azariah" "mynnna" "Nathan Jameson" "progodlegend" "Ripard Teg" "Sala Cameron" "Sort Dragon" "Trebor Daehdoow"
at 17: "Ali Aras" "Banlish" "Chitsa Jason" "James Arget" "Kaleb Rysode" "Kesper North" "Korvin" "Malcanis" "Mangala Solaris" "Mike Azariah" "mynnna" "Nathan Jameson" "progodlegend" "Ripard Teg" "Sala Cameron" "Sort Dragon" "Trebor Daehdoow"
A 20 member CSM is my personal favorite: "Ali Aras" "Banlish" "Chitsa Jason" "Greene Lee" "James Arget" "Kaleb Rysode" "Kesper North" "Korvin" "Malcanis" "Mangala Solaris" "Mike Azariah" "mynnna" "Nathan Jameson" "progodlegend" "Psychotic Monk" "Ripard Teg" "Sala Cameron" "Sort Dragon" "Steve Ronuken" "Trebor Daehdoow" Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
1211
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:36:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Null bloc votes, as identified by Two Step: 9823+10957+5999 = 26799, 53.9% of the votes Null bloc candidates: Five (Myself, Kesper, Sort, Sala and Progodlegend), which is about 35% of the council. I suppose you could count Malcanis as well, as the HBC ballot was instrumental in electing him and he is technically part of the bloc, but even that's only 42%. Basically, I'm saying that I think the people who were claiming that STV is all about rigging it for nullsec (ya'll know who you are) can put down their tinfoil hats. If anything we're under represented. Is it time to start talking about CCP and CSM7 using STV to rig the election against nullsec candidates? "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
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