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Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Apex Nebula Ventures
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:48:00 -
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Ohishi wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:Quote:And the "kessel run" is navigating between a cluster of black holes as close as you dare, in that context 12 parsecs is actually quite an achievement. Those must be some wussy smugglers then considering that 12 parsecs is equal to about 47 light years away! Considering that the gravitational pull of black holes is what holds the universe together, would you want to be any closer?
Oh boy ! Another incorrect scientific tangent to pursue !!
Nah, I'll just say that's wrong and leave it at that. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2013.05.10 20:22:00 -
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The Apotheoisis was given to us as 'Jovian design' and it is the same design as the Gnosis. It's a replica or in modern terms, a cheap Chinese knock off?
Another thing worth mentioning is, we 4 races of New Eden are not what "we" are. "We" are capsuleers and "we" use ships designed to be piloted by capsule, pod pilots. Even the four races that Pod pilots are culled from don't use Pod pilots ships exclusively. The Amarr fleet that faced the Jove was a Navy fleet, not a Pod fleet. For all we know, Jove have a strict doctrine against using Pod pilot technology. |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative.
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Posted - 2013.05.10 20:27:00 -
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Cat Troll wrote:Aren't the Jove supposed to be light years ahead of us?
Any of their ships are supposed to ROFLstomp our ships, and yet the Gnosis isn't really that powerful.
Its powerful and versatile yes, but light years ahead of the empires? No.
Is this like an old model?
Because if this ship is the average Jovian ship, then the empires could take them down with just sheer numbers.
One, its not Jove, and two, its a SCANNING VESSEL, meaning its non-combat. |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics
CODE.
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:03:00 -
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Ocih wrote:The Apotheoisis was given to us as 'Jovian design' and it is the same design as the Gnosis. It's a replica or in modern terms, a cheap Chinese knock off?
Another thing worth mentioning is, we 4 races of New Eden are not what "we" are. "We" are capsuleers and "we" use ships designed to be piloted by capsule, pod pilots. Even the four races that Pod pilots are culled from don't use Pod pilots ships exclusively. The Amarr fleet that faced the Jove was a Navy fleet, not a Pod fleet. For all we know, Jove have a strict doctrine against using Pod pilot technology.
According to lore, Jovians gave pod technology to the non-jovians (Caldari). The main reason so few people can become capsuleers, is the pods are specifically designed for Jovians and their genetic upgrades.
Basically, any Jove could get the implants needed and hop in a pod. Very few "other" humans can.
Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Something Random
The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:07:00 -
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I love nerds.
They get want they always wanted and still they bicker..... and even start an argument over measurements of relatavistic time.
Please.... carry on.
Need something to read while i oh so easily fit my ship.
BTW - thanks CCP, can i have another ?
"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."
"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangsn++ all here!" |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:22:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Vincent R'lyeh wrote:The Gnosis is a Battlecruiser that a total newbie can fly without even having the BattleCruiser skill.
It's so HI-TECH it only has 'stop' 'go' & 'SHOOT ZE CANNONS' butans..............
Seems pretty advanced to me
Seems more like Minmatar to me... :/
It's actually a Caldari ship. It has a Gravimetric sensor system. |
Grog Barrel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:52:00 -
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"Aren't the Jove supposed to be light years ahead of us?"
No. |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:23:00 -
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The joke is on us. The "Gnosis" is just a cheap knock-off that a Jovian high school student built in his spare time from a bunch of scrap parts floating about in space.
When you see the real Gnosis, you'll know what I mean and your pods will need to be hosed out. 
Repeatedly.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
Heart 0f Darkness
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Posted - 2013.05.11 18:15:00 -
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Personally, I think it's awesome. The fact that it can't use a DCII is even cool, and I figure it is a good balancing factor. I mean come on, it has 6 highs, mids, and lows, and omni resists, and it can fit and bonus any gun. What is not awesome about that? 
I'm going to fly at least one in combat just for kicks. 
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Maxpie
MUSE Buy-n-Large
Metaphysical Utopian Society Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.05.11 20:18:00 -
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Nevermind
No good deed goes unpunished |
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Ehronn
Nutz N Boltz
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Posted - 2013.05.20 00:22:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. Wasn't crucifixion ended around 2000 light years ago?
Crucifixion ended? lulz
go to ogrishforum.com or theync and watch the Zetas drug cartel in Mexico crucifying narcs and shoving their genitals in the mouths of those nailed on the cross.
crucifixion is still with us, Zetas do it with style
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Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
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Posted - 2013.05.20 00:25:00 -
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Singoth wrote:You are a special butterfly.
Now that is a comment I wont forget for a long time!! Seriously... Thank you!!!
It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |
Gealbhan
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Posted - 2013.05.20 02:55:00 -
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It's a quaint little ship, not something I'd fly often. It does have it's niche place and use though. |
Angang Ostus
Noob Mercs
Monkeys with Guns.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 06:19:00 -
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Maybe it's like a tricycle for little Jovian tykes to learn to fly. |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.20 06:42:00 -
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the Gnosis, as a SoCT ship, is a heavily nerfed version of jove tech. that way they can release it to the public without accidentally the universe as we know it. |
Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
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Posted - 2013.05.20 08:17:00 -
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I'm fairly sure it used to have "Jovian Battlecruiser" tagged to it despite it saying it was built by SoCT so maybe that's where the confusion came from.
I love to reload during a battle!-áThere's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile into a well greased chamber... |
oohthey ioh
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:19:00 -
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Arcaus Rotrau Romali wrote:Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. People who are bad at idioms shouldn't make statements like you just did, because other people's grasp on language might turn out to be miles ahead of their own Huh, are you saying Zak is wrong? A light year is a unit of distance, not time.
people are know to measure progress with unit of distances, i think it come form the term "far" |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:49:00 -
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Cosmic signature detected. . . .
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CCP Hilmar CEO > "why am i sweating, why is this game doing this to me"
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Velicitia
Nex Exercitus
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. GǪand those who use Gǣquantum leapGǥ to signify a massive change.
well, it could be ... I'd consider a "leap" into a woman's body to be a "massive change". 
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:03:00 -
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This is how I feel the thread derailed
yes! 
Trannyslaping!
Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco:
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Doddy
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:30:00 -
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You guys have seriously dumb expectations of Jovian technology. The Jove are the tech 2 race, the capsuleer race (do you guys even remember where t2 came from??). Other than in a few specific areas pod pilots are at an equivelent tech level to the Jove already and with the advent of t3 are probably beyond them in certain areas.
Take the much lauded battle of Vak'Atioth. It took the Jove fleet 6 hours to destroy 200 pre-capsuleer amarr empire subcaps despite knowing in advance when and where the amarr were coming and refitting their supercap to face them (tracking titan ftw). This is an amarrian fleet from a time before ships like the omen and executioner were even invented, never mind t2 ships. The Jove fleet meanwhile had interceptors/assault ships, sniper hacs and a tracking titan (when the amarr had no caps at all). How many amarr empire npcs do you think a capsuleer fleet of sniperhacs/t2 frig wolfpack backed by tracking titan would destroy in 6 hours? Seriously you try facing scorch with t1 lasers (the amazing jovian lasers are probably just t2 crystals).
Jove tech is better than capsuleer tech, but not by much and the superiority probably even then is down to t2 capsuleer tech being based on t1 pre-capsuleer foundations. Given the angels ships are based on jove tech simply imagining a t2 (8/8/8) laser machariel is probably closest to what a proper Eidolon is like. Pretty damn awesome but not wtfbbq invincible.
Stuff like polaris is no more an example of jove tech than concord is of DED. They are like that because of game mechanics, nothing else.
As for the gnosis it is based on a jovian battlecruiser but with anything hawt ripped out when operating for SoCT as the Jove don't want any more of their tech getting out. T2ify the gnosis and you would pretty much have what a jovian cruiser would be like.
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