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Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:45:00 -
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Aren't the Jove supposed to be light years ahead of us? Any of their ships are supposed to ROFLstomp our ships, and yet the Gnosis isn't really that powerful. Its powerful and versatile yes, but light years ahead of the empires? No.
Is this like an old model? Because if this ship is the average Jovian ship, then the empires could take them down with just sheer numbers. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:45:00 -
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Its not Jove. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:46:00 -
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Gnosis is SoCT, not Jove. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
278
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:47:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Its not Jove. I saw someone say its Jovian. So he lied then? Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

Illest Insurrectionist
The Scope Gallente Federation
92
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:51:00 -
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Cat Troll wrote:baltec1 wrote:Its not Jove. I saw someone say its Jovian. So he lied then?
They may have simply been mistaken. |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:51:00 -
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Cat Troll wrote:baltec1 wrote:Its not Jove. I saw someone say its Jovian. So he lied then? They're propably just wrong. SoCT as an organization has a Jovian connection, so some people try to streach that minor link to mean the ships they manufacture are Jovian ships. |

Hernan Johuihen
Zero Atmosphere Unclaimed.
7
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:52:00 -
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actually, gnosis is their rookie ship |

Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:53:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Cat Troll wrote:baltec1 wrote:Its not Jove. I saw someone say its Jovian. So he lied then? They're propably just wrong. SoCT as an organization has a Jovian connection, so some people try to streach that minor link to mean the ships they manufacture are Jovian ships. ah, I get it now. Thanks fro clearing that up. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
50
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:53:00 -
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People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. |

Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:53:00 -
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Hernan Johuihen wrote:actually, gnosis is their rookie ship No, their rookie ship is a station. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
278
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:55:00 -
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Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. But... But... But... It has YEAR in it! That means its a unit of time right?  Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

Dorian Mirror
Glovis Corporation
20
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:56:00 -
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Illest Insurrectionist wrote:Cat Troll wrote:baltec1 wrote:Its not Jove. I saw someone say its Jovian. So he lied then? They may have simply been mistaken.
Probably because it says "Jove" in the Ship-Preview window. CCP should perhaps change that. |

Manes Avatarr
Adventurers
47
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:57:00 -
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Totally agree its not jovian at all, just uses some general ideas from Jovies or most likely "jovian starship philosophy" but not their advenced technology.
humouristic approach: - It's jovian medium drone remade by SoCT to be manned craft  ADVENTURERS Corp. is recruiting again! | https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2906996 |

J'Poll
Aegis Consolidated
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:03:00 -
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Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified.
This made me laugh...a lot. When a WoW player leaves to return to WoW, the avg. IQ of both games rises. Request to CCP: Please patch stupidity out of the game for Winter 2013. Professional Forum Thread locker. |

Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:04:00 -
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Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified.
People who are bad at idioms shouldn't make statements like you just did, because other people's grasp on language might turn out to be miles ahead
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Vincent R'lyeh
Screaming Hayabusa
177
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:14:00 -
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The Gnosis is a Battlecruiser that a total newbie can fly without even having the BattleCruiser skill.
It's so HI-TECH it only has 'stop' 'go' & 'SHOOT ZE CANNONS' butans..............
Seems pretty advanced to me
I have deliberately developed an air of cynicism that I originally intended to make me appear somewhat louche and caddish but actually comes across as irritable hostility combined with the unspoken threat of sudden violence..... |

Singoth
The Scope Gallente Federation
197
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:16:00 -
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You are a special butterfly. Less yappin', more zappin'! |

Skorpynekomimi
506
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:20:00 -
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It has stats?
I took one look at the price tag and sold it. Equivalent of -ú5 didn't go amiss, and knocked my alt's next sub payment back beyond payday. **** |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
138
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:22:00 -
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Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified.
Can't resist the Pokemon quote here.
"You're light years away from facing Brock!"
*gets ass kicked*
"Light years isn't time! It measure distance!"
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
615
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:29:00 -
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Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified.
Agreed. |

Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Apex Nebula Ventures
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:30:00 -
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Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. People who are bad at idioms shouldn't make statements like you just did, because other people's grasp on language might turn out to be miles ahead of their own
Huh, are you saying Zak is wrong?
A light year is a unit of distance, not time. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
138
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:34:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. Agreed.
Only if we can also add misuse of the word "parsec" on top of that.
"It's the ship that made the Kessel Run is less than 12 parsecs!"
@ Lucas
Parsec is a unit of distance, you rock-stupid half-assed excuse for a writer! Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
616
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:35:00 -
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Arcaus Rotrau Romali wrote:Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. People who are bad at idioms shouldn't make statements like you just did, because other people's grasp on language might turn out to be miles ahead of their own Huh, are you saying Zak is wrong? A light year is a unit of distance, not time.
He is saying "think figuratively" rather than literally. Think of a time line as an abstraction of the passage of time. Then, figurative distance on the abstract time line, could represent literal time. |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
616
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:37:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. Agreed. Only if we can also add misuse of the word "parsec" on top of that. "It's the ship that made the Kessel Run is less than 12 parsecs!" @ Lucas Parsec is a unit of distance, you rock-stupid half-assed excuse for a writer!
Yeah... Lucas needs to go too. If not for the misuse of parsec in Ep4, then for the Ewoks in Ep6, and the entirety of Ep1-3.
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Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:38:00 -
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Arcaus Rotrau Romali wrote:Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. People who are bad at idioms shouldn't make statements like you just did, because other people's grasp on language might turn out to be miles ahead of their own Huh, are you saying Zak is wrong? A light year is a unit of distance, not time.
Yeah, and the expression "such and such a thing is light years ahead of its competitors" is referring to distance and not time. The people who are confused are you guys who don't understand the expression in the first place.
So yeah, Zak is wrong.
EDIT: So if someone says "so and so is miles ahead in the tech race", they aren't confusing miles for units of time, they're speaking figuratively. "Light years ahead" is a more exaggerated use of the expression.
That's why I said "grasp of language is miles ahead" in my last post because I was hoping you would pick up on that (and not because I think I'm an expert in language because I'm not) |

Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Apex Nebula Ventures
36
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:41:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Arcaus Rotrau Romali wrote:Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. People who are bad at idioms shouldn't make statements like you just did, because other people's grasp on language might turn out to be miles ahead of their own Huh, are you saying Zak is wrong? A light year is a unit of distance, not time. He is saying "think figuratively" rather than literally. Think of a time line as an abstraction of the passage of time. Then, figurative distance on the abstract time line, could represent literal time.
I see what you're saying but I don't agree with it. A light year is a defined scientific measurement of distance, there is nothing figurative about it and it doesn't have anything to do with a time line.
A = A
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Arronicus
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
620
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:49:00 -
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Light year, is a measure of distance. 'Ahead' is a relative term, for direction.
1 light year = 9.4605284 +ù 1015 meters
Therefore, no.
/thread. |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
616
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:50:00 -
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Arcaus Rotrau Romali wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:Arcaus Rotrau Romali wrote:Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. People who are bad at idioms shouldn't make statements like you just did, because other people's grasp on language might turn out to be miles ahead of their own Huh, are you saying Zak is wrong? A light year is a unit of distance, not time. He is saying "think figuratively" rather than literally. Think of a time line as an abstraction of the passage of time. Then, figurative distance on the abstract time line, could represent literal time. I see what you're saying but I don't agree with it. A light year is a defined scientific measurement of distance, there is nothing figurative about it and it doesn't have anything to do with a time line. A = A
And, a "time line" is a means of depicting the order of events in history, that also uses a scale that allows us to see the relative time that passed between those events.
If we set the end of the last ice age (10K BCE) as 0 on our time line, and set current day (call it 2000 CE) to be 12 inches away, then each inch would approximate 1000 years. Tings like domestication of cattle, establishment of the first code of laws, first alphabetic language, etc, could be plotted as various inches and fraction of inches along the line.
Here, the well defined unit of distance know as the "inch" is used figuratively to represent the passage of literal time.
You could then say, Faster Than Light Travel is miles beyond us, technologically (which on the scale of inch = 1000 years would be a very long time). This would be hyperbole (intentional exaggeration to make a point) to demonstrate that we are not even close to getting there.
Since it is pure hyperbole, we do not need to specifically designate a unit of time to the unit of distance on our time line, since a mile is clearly an absurd unit to be applied to any time line.
Light Years is just a further over-exaggeration to make the point that we are not even close, in figurative distance on an abstract time line, or literal passage of time on a clock, calendar, or writing of history books. |

Daimon Kaiera
Kraken.
257
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:50:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:Zakarumit CZ wrote:People, which use "light year" as a unit of "time", should be crucified. Agreed. Only if we can also add misuse of the word "parsec" on top of that. "It's the ship that made the Kessel Run is less than 12 parsecs!" @ Lucas Parsec is a unit of distance, you rock-stupid half-assed excuse for a writer!
Do we even know what a Kessel Run is? For all we know it could be a time-challenge to do a certain something in the least distance possible. .... . .-.. .--. / .. / .... .- ...- . / ..-. .- .-.. .-.. . -. / .- -. -.. / .. / -.-. .- -. -. --- - / --. . - / ..- .--. / ... - --- .--. - .... .. ... / ... .. --. -. .- - ..- .-. . / .. -.. . .- / .. ... / -. --- - / ... - --- .-.. . -. / ... - --- .--. |

Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
25
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:55:00 -
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ITT Arcaus attempts a stealth nerf on using imagery in the English language |
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