Yep, a DSP outside dscan range.

but yeah, i wasnt kicked, they were kinda like "dafuq is wrong with you" though.

And how many of the people that you've killed have had that out as well (just asking you to estimate).

No idea, it's not visible on scan

Your estimate is as good as mine, mate

I know I've never been surprised when I've had probes out.

This is exactly my point. Now no one will be surprised since everyone will have the intel automatically. Is that what you want wormholes to be for everyone? Yourself and your targets?

I just installed Singularity to test out the new Discovery Scanner and I had a few questions.

The Discovery Scanner shows signatures as well as anomalies. I was wondering if this was instant or if there is a delay from a new signature spawning and it appearing on the scanner.

If it is instant I think that would take a huge element of mystery out of wormholes. One of the biggest draws is that you never know who could be possibly watching you, even if you have all of your statics and incoming holes picketed, since there's a chance that someone can just open up into you. I think it would be a great idea if CCP put in a delay (an hour or so) from signatures appearing on the Discovery Scanner so people who are actively scanning with probes still have the advantage over those who are passively scanning with the Discovery Scanner.

This is exactly my point. Now no one will be surprised since everyone will have the intel automatically. Is that what you want wormholes to be for everyone? Yourself and your targets?

No, I don't think anything in the whole scanning system should be changed in anyway, except redesign of dscan interface.

All I'm saying that equal level of real safety is already available to everyone, using current mechanics -> Discovery Scanner does not increase safety, it makes keeping your butt safe easier.

Confirming, you will never catch anyone in a WH with this new discovery scanner. Just like you never catch anyone ratting/mining in 0.0 with the local chat, right?

I didn't say that. But I doubt many people want wormholes to become as safe as null.

I don't think the scanner is working on Singularity as it will in the final version. At least I hope not. I like the idea of being able to activate your scanner just from your hud and see the results visually. But it runs automatically every time you undock or jump into system. Don't get me wrong the effect looks nice, but it will get boring very quickly like that.

And besides people should have to consciously make the decision to activate the scan, not have it spoon fed to them every time they undock/ come through a gate.

And where does this rumor of "safe as null" even come from? There are plenty of ratters/miners/missionrunners killed in null everyday.

Confirming, you will never catch anyone in a WH with this new discovery scanner. Just like you never catch anyone ratting/mining in 0.0 with the local chat, right?

It does not show ship signatures or similar. Only PVE sites are being shown.

Just going to point this out, as per this post



I doubt the scanner will break wormhole space. The question will be if new K162s are shown or not. This could easily be remedied by making them only visible to actual probing.

There is no such mystery in wormholes, everyone has probes out and new signature will be noticed immediately.

Discovery Scanner changes nothing in this regard, and people will still use probes, because the discovery scanner is just an extra step for finding out sigs.

It does not show ship signatures or similar. Only PVE sites are being shown.