If your virus loses cohesion you get a message that says something about the hack failing and a jettison being imminent.

Is it even implemented fully? Found 3-4 mainframes and all I've had to do was right-click > open cargo. No module needed.

I dont even *need* to play the minigame to access the insides of the can. Theres no challenge whatsoever. There are no NPC's guarding either. Its pretty much a letdown right now.

Can you say something on whether all mag/rad (now relic/data) sites in the game will be changed? I noticed that data sites in w-space still have their usual sleeper spawns. Is this because they weren't updated yet, or will they stay that way?

(For the record, I think they should keep their sleepers as otherwise it will be incredibly easy to print ISK without ever boarding a combat pve ship.)

And gas combat sites use the code breaker/data analyzer. Will they now have mini games and NPCs?

I dont even *need* to play the minigame to access the insides of the can. Theres no challenge whatsoever. There are no NPC's guarding either. Its pretty much a letdown right now.

Either radial menu or right click and click open. If they haven't been hacked before you will have to do the hacking mini game. The firewalls block you and obscure a 1 circle radius around them. If your virus loses cohesion you get a message that says something about the hack failing and a jettison being imminent. I was able to grab everything from the "cans" then. In retrospect, I should have left some in there to see what happened.

The hacking game is fit for a WiS arcade where it would fit in rather well, but its not in the ethic of eve to be blunt, its a tablet game fit for cats at the moment.

i have run some sites, u can open the can and get loot (no Loot Button on can) u can open the mini game, no revamped codebreaker or analyser required for access to either of those options, why try to make a game within a game, do you stuff your turkeys with chickens?

The game is not fit for testing, no blog on its development or direction of development has been issued as have any operational instructions or game play mechanic guidelines, it is hardly fit for duality at the moment, all we can do is lunge around in the dark, and all you are doing at CCP is watching us and making decisions based on on dim shadows.

Still...its something new and different and to be honest I prefer it to the standard, "found a site, warp to, bookmark, warp back to station, grab a combat ship, warp back, shoot ****, warp back to station, grab my exploration ship, sit and run a modules for several times with a chance of success. At which point unless its a radar site you get crap compared to missions.

As CCP Soundwave stated, "that isn't exploration." Not to mention its a real pain in the ass to constantly move two ships at a time. Granted, if you are in a T3 you are set, but its a big stick up the backside to everyone else lol. At least this provides a new challenge and doesnt require two ships to do.

It would be great if there was a harder version of the hacking mini game with a larger grid that requires multiple players to work together simultaneously to complete.

And last thing..sry to be such a pain..... as i read in that hacking minigame if u fail the hack u get an warning and after that probably the loot is spewed out in space and u have to click to get it like we saw in the demo at fanfest. But what happens if you successfully hack the can....will the loot still be spewed in space? and if it is the same result for both actions why even bother to successfully hack the can when u can access the loot just by failing?

Other thing we need hacking mods to augment the virus we have, getting 15/3 without any option to increase that(besides the t2 analyzer and the skill it self which none give virus strength, and the +1 cohesion role bonus on the t1 scan frigate) .

No balancing has been done in this version at all.

Including loot? Because the loot in this current iteration doesn't exactly bring my hopes up about this being a viable means of making isk.

It would be great if there was a harder version of the hacking mini game with a larger grid that requires multiple players to work together simultaneously to complete.

All this will do is give multiboxers another edge over regular players. Bad enough for solo explorers already with the jetissoned cans. It's something that screams multiboxing.

Still thinks that mini game thingy is bad idea, no one do those sites in HS (but ok this can be buffed), and sure no one will be doing them in LS now, and buff wont help it (required to much attention instead of looking at local and dscan).

Well I figured it out, you just have to clik nodes blindly as quickly as possible.

Then if you are lucky enuf to get the can's core craked before running out of time it chucks stuff alll over the place and most of it is lost.

I was a dedicated scanner who avoided mag sites in hisec, except in WH space and null, as the crap in them was preety worthless.

It has KILLED doing Data sites for me. I absolutely give it a -10

Well I figured it out, you just have to clik nodes blindly as quickly as possible.

Then if you are lucky enuf to get the can's core craked before running out of time it chucks stuff alll over the place and most of it is lost.

I was a dedicated scanner who avoided mag sites in hisec, except in WH space and null, as the crap in them was preety worthless.

It has KILLED doing Data sites for me. I absolutely give it a -10