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Arthur Hellsing Turalyon Plus 5	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:48:00 - [1] - Quote Video So ya, the enemy navy does not spawn for this militia pilot. So is this allowed? I mean, i would love to do this, but this is just blatant cheating/glitching.
Some Rando University of Caille Gallente Federation 1024	Posted - 2013.05.10 21:15:00 - [2] - Quote Arthur Hellsing wrote: So ya, the enemy navy does not spawn for this militia pilot. So is this allowed? I mean, I would love to do this, but this is just blatant cheating/glitching. According to the video description: Quote: The Caldari NPC Navy is not spawning for this character that is apart of the Gallente Militia. Since the pilot is not actually a member of the Gallente Militia, I see no reason why the Caldari Navy should shoot him. CCP has no sense of humour.
Defying Hateful Munitions Totally Consensual 17	Posted - 2013.05.10 21:28:00 - [3] - Quote We have been noticing this too... I have been telling guys that I am sure they are just mistaken and that maybe they killed the navy off or something? He is in a paladin.. is it possible to kill the navy that spawns to kill you and then no more spawns? I mean I dont know im just guesing here.
Arthur Hellsing Turalyon Plus 5	Posted - 2013.05.10 21:31:00 - [4] - Quote The video clearly shows that he is in the Gallente Militia, meaning if he goes Caldari high sec he will be attacked by the NPC navy. It is shown on the overview and i have his Character Information up that also shows he is in the Gallente militia. I did not catch this on fraps, but he is also tractor beaming yellow wrecks to him! I had just killed someone and even my alt account can not loot/tractor beam the wreck without going suspect, and he just tractor beams it over to his ship.
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 33	Posted - 2013.05.10 21:35:00 - [5] - Quote Is it possible that someone else was drawing them off? It's my (limited) understanding that a system will only produce so many faction navy spawns at one time, and since they are not CONCORD (not even close) they can be permatanked by a ship that is designed to do that. If this person safes up and begins tanking all the navy spawns, then anyone else can roam free.
Arthur Hellsing Turalyon Plus 5	Posted - 2013.05.10 21:42:00 - [6] - Quote He stays undocked in a sniping spot for long amounts of time, sometimes even 40 minuets, no navy appears. The only thing that deters him from going away is when something comes along that he can't handle like 3 battleships, at which point he just docks. There is no way they are being drawn off, the second I undock, BAM navy spawn. When me and my corp mate undock TWO navy's spawn, one for each of us. This guy undocks all the time and nothing attacks him.
Rengerel en Distel Amarr Science and Industry 1440	Posted - 2013.05.10 22:06:00 - [7] - Quote Wouldn't it be easier to just file a petition? Since you seem to be accusing him of some kinds of hacks, leave it to the professionals. With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 33	Posted - 2013.05.10 22:11:00 - [8] - Quote Arthur Hellsing wrote: He stays undocked in a sniping spot for long amounts of time, sometimes even 40 minuets, no navy appears. The only thing that deters him from going away is when something comes along that he can't handle like 3 battleships, at which point he just docks. There is no way they are being drawn off, the second I undock, BAM navy spawn. When me and my corp mate undock TWO navy's spawn, one for each of us. This guy undocks all the time and nothing attacks him. edit: in the video it shows him shooting a war target, he is still in the milita. And I forgot to mention, HE HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME! Kill Board The above method still applies. Apparently your spawn belongs to you. They don't switch up without aggression. So if he has someone draw his Navy spawn off (such as a safed alt with RR) then he has the run of the system as long as he does not dock up or jump. He won't get a new spawn just by being there. FWIW, we have a handful of our own enemy snipers and campers that frequent Hek and Rens in this fashion, apparently unhindered by faction Navy.
Baljos Arnjak Dark Praetorian Order 50	Posted - 2013.05.10 23:51:00 - [9] - Quote Could it be that he has high standings with Caldari, but is in the Gallente Navy? Used to be that faction rats wouldn't agro you in FW plex's if you had high enough standing. Wouldn't surprise me if it worked that way for police spawns too.
Ilunes Lailara Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 6	Posted - 2013.05.11 10:34:00 - [10] - Quote You're all wrong. The simple fact is the Caldari Navy fears SP-DR and won't dare engage us. There now, move along..
Scrutt5 Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 20	Posted - 2013.05.11 10:38:00 - [11] - Quote Every faction have pilots doing this in the enemy factions trade hubs. Need a glass for all that whine ?
Rebecha Pucontis Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 313	Posted - 2013.05.11 11:10:00 - [12] - Quote I think if they destroy all of the Navy ships and then perhaps they dont spawn again until after DT. Im not sure I've not tried it myself, but I've seen people who have killed the Navy ships before.
Dav Varan Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 27	Posted - 2013.05.11 11:22:00 - [13] - Quote RP > OP you need to be flogged through the streets of luminaire for slanderous accusations against a fellow squid basher. RL > Nasal Decongestant is available in all good drug stores or like whatever. If I didn't respond to you it's because I have auto reject on. Did you send a mail ? No You we're not blocked but you are now. and after I saved your sorry ass from that Vexor as well. Pfft. I am going to report you to the Gallente High Council for treason.
Rebecha Pucontis Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 313	Posted - 2013.05.11 11:32:00 - [14] - Quote I'm guessing it is some kind of standings exploit/glitch after watching the video. I have seen other players completely dispatch the Navy before, but your saying they still spawn for you but not for him, so I'm not sure how this works either.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 1704	Posted - 2013.05.11 11:53:00 - [15] - Quote Dav Varan wrote: . Now this is mighty suspicious. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
NEONOVUS Saablast Followers 433	Posted - 2013.05.11 11:54:00 - [16] - Quote Scrutt5 wrote: Every faction have pilots doing this in the enemy factions trade hubs. Need a glass for all that whine ? An exploit is still an exploit if everyone does it. No basically if you were to put out probes or use dscan when he first undocks you would see that he warps alot. What happens is that after some number of warps (lowend 5 high 20) the Navy tries to slow boat to you. Consequently none of their spawns will engage until he docks up. This is easy to see as Scrutt here is constantly warping about to avoid being shot and the navy will spawn then at some point the navy will stop. While this is going though Dav never gets a spawn. It is well known to do this in all faction warfare if you want to camp enemy hisec systems. The downside is that because the navy is engaged the logs do show nothing. And apparently pictures and video are not satisfactory evidence to the contrary.
Julius Priscus 103	Posted - 2013.05.11 12:21:00 - [17] - Quote its done the same way that a outlaw does it in high sec. get an alt/friend to eject froma ship they board it and HELLO no navy spawn
Rebecha Pucontis Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 313	Posted - 2013.05.11 17:46:00 - [18] - Quote This exploit really sucks. Any chance of a comment from CCP on this?
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1285	Posted - 2013.05.11 19:23:00 - [19] - Quote Faction navies are a bad, anti-PVP mechanic and shouldn't exist anyway. Players involved in faction warfare should be able to fight eachother freely without NPCs preventing them from doing it effectively.
Dav Varan Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 27	Posted - 2013.05.11 19:31:00 - [20] - Quote Rebecha Pucontis wrote: This exploit really sucks. Any chance of a comment from CCP on this? There is no exploit. There is just a bunch of players who don't understand game mechanics very well. I don't think OP should be using the forums as a court of public opinion.
Rebecha Pucontis Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 313	Posted - 2013.05.11 19:36:00 - [21] - Quote Dav Varan wrote: Rebecha Pucontis wrote: This exploit really sucks. Any chance of a comment from CCP on this? There is no exploit. There is just a bunch of players who don't understand game mechanics very well. I don't think OP should be using the forums as a court of public opinion. To be fair, I don't think the majority of players understand this mechanic, and it sounds like a bit of a ****** mechanic to be honest. Not blaming you for using it, but it sounds like something CCP need to sort out.
Khemax Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.05.11 20:03:00 - [22] - Quote Theres a big difference between understanding a design mechanic and exploiting a design oversight
Virru University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.11 20:10:00 - [23] - Quote Khemax wrote: Theres a big difference between understanding a design mechanic and exploiting a design oversight Who are you to say which is which?
Khemax Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.05.11 20:12:00 - [24] - Quote Virru wrote: Khemax wrote: Theres a big difference between understanding a design mechanic and exploiting a design oversight Who are you to say which is which? Did I say which was which no.....I leave that to CCP to sort out Sheesh
Moneta Curran Lunar Industries Ltd 71	Posted - 2013.05.11 21:19:00 - [25] - Quote Hmm, lame. File a petition or a bug report, if only to spite them.
Nightfox BloodRaven Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors 12	Posted - 2013.05.11 23:46:00 - [26] - Quote Honestly he is hacking i once hid in a cloaker and watched him.. no navy spawned on him for over 40 minutes.. he dosent even need to shoot them... He claims its the game mechanic but honestly he is just a hacker.. and oh yea CCP does not give a fuk ..
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 14217	Posted - 2013.05.11 23:49:00 - [27] - Quote Nightfox BloodRaven wrote: Honestly he is hacking i once hid in a cloaker and watched him.. no navy spawned on him for over 40 minutes.. he dosent even need to shoot them... He claims its the game mechanic but honestly he is just a hacker.. GÇªwhich you obviously can proveGÇª somehow? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á
NEONOVUS Saablast Followers 433	Posted - 2013.05.12 02:16:00 - [28] - Quote Tippia wrote: Nightfox BloodRaven wrote: Honestly he is hacking i once hid in a cloaker and watched him.. no navy spawned on him for over 40 minutes.. he dosent even need to shoot them... He claims its the game mechanic but honestly he is just a hacker.. GÇªwhich you obviously can proveGÇª somehow? Simple he was an AFK cloaker and thus was everywhere for the duration. This is very simple. Also I have watched Dav as well and he never gets a tail after his little warp exploit. Then again the same thing was done by the Caldari militia in Hek. The only real annoyance is if one of the freighters decides to warp immediately and then keeps you from warping out immediately in a ship that gets alphastruck. CCP make undocking intangibility last for the full 30 seconds not just until player action!
Masrina Yasmin The Sword and The Shield 3	Posted - 2013.05.12 03:18:00 - [29] - Quote What's the problem? Stop being a derp. Go in cloaked ships.. warp to his position, bump his align. Kill his ship and pod. Navy NPC suck anyway.
Rebecha Pucontis Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 313	Posted - 2013.05.12 04:10:00 - [30] - Quote Masrina Yasmin wrote: What's the problem? The problem is the Navy should be attacking him in Jita, as I highly doubt this is an intentional mechanic put in place by CCP. I would have thought that is pretty obvious.

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