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Dav Varan
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
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Posted - 2013.05.13 11:26:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Masrina Yasmin wrote:What's the problem? The problem is the Navy should be attacking him in Jita, as I highly doubt this is an intentional mechanic put in place by CCP. I would have thought that is pretty obvious.
You assumption is incorrect. you are thinking of concord. Concord is the only NPC your are not allowed to avoid.
FW Navies are no different than standard rats spawns allthough much more powerful. If you can avoid there damage you are allowed to do so as long as no bugs are involved.
Now for some re-slandering
Nightfox = Bitter and twisted multiple victim Neonovous = Massive coward, too afraid to fight without 1000 dps navy backup OP = Clueless and Jealous weasel
Facts for OP Idiot "No I can't tractor yellow wrecks, there white to me you dumbass" "Yes I do get shot by navy when I first undock just like everyone else, no I am never gonna tell you how to avoid them :P" "No I don't have you on block unless you were an utter ass at some point in history, I have auto reject switched on"
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14247
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Posted - 2013.05.13 11:33:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Simple he was an AFK cloaker and thus was everywhere for the duration. This is very simple.
Also I have watched Dav as well and he never gets a tail after his little warp exploit. Then again the same thing was done by the Caldari militia in Hek. GǪand the proof that he's hacking isGǪ?
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:The problem is the Navy should be attacking him in Jita, as I highly doubt this is an intentional mechanic put in place by CCP. The FW-hunting navy ships are specifically designed to be evadable, survivable, and defeatable. So unless there's some more detail about what he is (and isn't) doing, then just sitting around and not being attacked is not a problem. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Julius Priscus
105
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Posted - 2013.05.14 07:08:00 -
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Nightfox BloodRaven wrote:Honestly he is hacking i once hid in a cloaker and watched him.. no navy spawned on him for over 40 minutes.. he dosent even need to shoot them...
He claims its the game mechanic but honestly he is just a hacker..
and oh yea CCP does not give a fuk ..
lol game mechanics ftw and reported for swearing. -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Wodensun
ZeroSec
104
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:10:00 -
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Julius Priscus wrote:Nightfox BloodRaven wrote:Honestly he is hacking i once hid in a cloaker and watched him.. no navy spawned on him for over 40 minutes.. he dosent even need to shoot them...
He claims its the game mechanic but honestly he is just a hacker..
and oh yea CCP does not give a fuk .. lol game mechanics ftw and reported for swearing.
Snitches will snitch and ***** over the smallest things Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident... |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
266
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:52:00 -
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Thread cleaned of trolling, off topic and personal attack posts. Keep it civil people!
Also: moved to Warfare & Tactics. ISD Ezwal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1410
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:56:00 -
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The navy has a maximum number of spawns. These spawns have transferred their aggression to some uber-tanking afk alt in the same system - leaving the other militia members free to beat up on everybody else in the system.
If you have problems with this mechanic, then please move to low sec where you don't have to deal with this stuff.
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Aducat Ragnarson
Cult of the Black Goat
148
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:41:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:The navy has a maximum number of spawns. These spawns have transferred their aggression to some uber-tanking afk alt in the same system - leaving the other militia members free to beat up on everybody else in the system.
If you have problems with this mechanic, then please move to low sec where you don't have to deal with this stuff.
maybe you should actually watch the video before offering an explanation that is obviously not what is happening in the video. |
greg01
Inglorious-Basterds
10
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:54:00 -
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X Gall is right on the mark. Also, Get a few battleships with neutral reppers and just shoot navy npc's until they stop spawning. Then you can fly around high sec enemy territory without having to worry about being webbed/ neuter etc by the npc's navy. Worked well when RONIN was in OMS next to Villore.
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greg01
Inglorious-Basterds
10
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:00:00 -
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As for the video..... Why complain about your fellow militia members??? You mention you cannot contact him in the video! I do know SP-DR have plenty of decent pilots that will assist you. Just check their website. |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
939
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:23:00 -
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greg01 wrote:X Gall is right on the mark. Also, Get a few battleships with neutral reppers and just shoot navy npc's until they stop spawning. Then you can fly around high sec enemy territory without having to worry about being webbed/ neuter etc by the npc's navy. Worked well when RONIN was in OMS next to Villore.
Did you actually do this? How many spawns did you have to shoot before they stopped spawning. Did they stop spawning until the next downtime?
I think XG said something different than you. He is suggesting that there is an alt in a safe spot with a large permatank running. All the navy is shooting that perma tank, and leaving all other enemy militia free.
It seems people are quick to say this is, or is not, an exploit when the person doing it hasn't actually described how he does it.
I think if ccp decides they do not want to have navys in high sec they should just do that. But having some wonky way to permanently avoid the navy is pretty silly. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1410
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:25:00 -
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Aducat Ragnarson wrote:X Gallentius wrote:The navy has a maximum number of spawns. These spawns have transferred their aggression to some uber-tanking afk alt in the same system - leaving the other militia members free to beat up on everybody else in the system.If you have problems with this mechanic, then please move to low sec where you don't have to deal with this stuff.
maybe you should actually watch the video before offering an explanation that is obviously not what is happening in the video. Are there no other militia members in the system? If not, then you're right. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
327
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:35:00 -
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Dav Varan wrote:You assumption is incorrect. you are thinking of concord. Concord is the only NPC your are not allowed to avoid.
FW Navies are no different than standard rats spawns allthough much more powerful. If you can avoid there damage you are allowed to do so as long as no bugs are involved.
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal Using offensive language? Anyway, I wasn't accusing you of exploiting, but just saying this seems like a pretty crap mechanic put in by CCP which allows this to happen. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
327
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:The FW-hunting navy ships are specifically designed to be evadable, survivable, and defeatable. So unless there's some more detail about what he is (and isn't) doing, then just sitting around and not being attacked is not a problem. I agree, which is why we need more detail. He didn't seem to be evading the Navy in any way, simply sitting there whilst the Navy ignores him.
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Dav Varan
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
28
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:53:00 -
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There have been some good guess , but not right
This is how we do it.
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ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
188
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:17:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Edit: Yup you're right. It seems the SPDR has paid off the Caldari Navy.
So thats were all that pesky corp isk gos................wait till tags for sec comes in this is gunna get worse amarr/jita permacamps neone ;)
GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
188
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:20:00 -
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Really didnt people read the warning when they joined militia that states you can be attacked by opposing militia newere even in high sec........... kinda gos without saying no exploit is happeneing when you even get warned this can happen.. If youd have read this instead of thinking hurry up lemmie get this toon done to farm LPs, youd realise this GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Julius Foederatus
Hyper-Nova
187
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Posted - 2013.05.14 21:20:00 -
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You know if people are really that bothered by this, why don't we just get rid of the faction navy and instead make it so FW players can't dock in enemy high sec. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
373
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:06:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:The navy has a maximum number of spawns. These spawns have transferred their aggression to some uber-tanking afk alt in the same system - leaving the other militia members free to beat up on everybody else in the system.
If you have problems with this mechanic, then please move to low sec where you don't have to deal with this stuff.
XGal is correct - just because you didn't see something doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
There are 2 ways I know of not be be shot by Navy NPC's in high sec. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Aducat Ragnarson
Cult of the Black Goat
150
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:18:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:
XGal is correct - just because you didn't see something doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
Watch the video and tell me again how there is an afk tank alt stopping militia to spawn...
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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
482
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Posted - 2013.05.14 23:39:00 -
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Julius Foederatus wrote:You know if people are really that bothered by this, why don't we just get rid of the faction navy and instead make it so FW players can't dock in enemy high sec.
maybe we could just remove whole militia. |
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ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
188
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Posted - 2013.05.14 23:42:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:
maybe we could just remove whole militia.
Actually Bm this is the one thread youd know about draiktrain used to high sec camp very sucessfully bk in the day GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
373
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:51:00 -
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Aducat Ragnarson wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:
XGal is correct - just because you didn't see something doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
Watch the video and tell me again how there is an afk tank alt stopping militia to spawn...
Cool - I see your point now. I got to watch it again with sound.(At work so had to be sneeky)
Could they have hit the quit militia button once undocked and until a session change things are screwed up?
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
373
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Posted - 2013.05.15 04:31:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Julius Foederatus wrote:You know if people are really that bothered by this, why don't we just get rid of the faction navy and instead make it so FW players can't dock in enemy high sec. maybe we could just remove whole militia.
I have been arguing for the removal of navy npc's for years.
CCP can not comprehend that navy npc's only stop pvp between consenting players and have no place in eve.
If I want to gank a pod in high sec - the navy isn't gonna stop me but they will stop me fighting a valid WT who also wants to fight.
Hopefully one day someone at CCP plays their own game and learns the game mechanics well enough to 'discover' this.
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
329
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:49:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Really didnt people read the warning when they joined militia that states you can be attacked by opposing militia newere even in high sec........... kinda gos without saying no exploit is happeneing when you even get warned this can happen.. If youd have read this instead of thinking hurry up lemmie get this toon done to farm LPs, youd realise this It is nothing to do with not accepting fights. People join the militia to get fights. The problem is when the fighting happens on unfair terms, ie the Navy not attacking WTs in Jita, yet when they go to the opposing enemy FW space then the Navy are attacking them. If you can't understand this, as evident from your previous post, then you are either stupid or just being a troll. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
329
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:51:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:XGal is correct - just because you didn't see something doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Love it when people claim working as intended like they understand what is going on, and yet when asked they make something up and don't actually have a clue. :)
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Dav Varan
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
29
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Posted - 2013.05.15 11:13:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:It is nothing to do with not accepting fights. People join the militia to get fights. The problem is when the fighting happens on unfair terms, ie the Navy not attacking WTs in Jita, yet when they go to the opposing enemy FW space then the Navy are attacking them. If you can't understand this, as evident from your previous post, then you are either stupid or just being a troll.
Gal and Mini militia - The butthurt being shown by this piece of sputem is most obviousley a symptom of Squid Awokery - Mark for KOS. |
Scrutt5
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
20
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Posted - 2013.05.15 15:49:00 -
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Mate not only do I love flying with you, you make me laugh when your not online +1
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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
331
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:47:00 -
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So much inter corporation ass kissing in this thread it is obscene. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
188
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:52:00 -
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Recech Pucontis wrote:If you can't understand this, as evident from your previous post, then you are either stupid or just being a troll.
Calling me stupid? why because i understand how this mechanic works (and neone can do it) and you dont so you cry on the forums that its broke and an exploit which its neither and fully working as intended....
+1 for high sec tear extraction GÖÑ GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Scrutt5
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
21
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:15:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:So much inter corporation ass kissing in this thread it is obscene.
Great not being an npc corp, you should try it. |
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