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Arthur Hellsing
Turalyon Plus
5
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Posted - 2013.05.10 20:48:00 -
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Video
So ya, the enemy navy does not spawn for this militia pilot. So is this allowed? I mean, i would love to do this, but this is just blatant cheating/glitching. |

Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1024
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:15:00 -
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Arthur Hellsing wrote:So ya, the enemy navy does not spawn for this militia pilot. So is this allowed? I mean, I would love to do this, but this is just blatant cheating/glitching. According to the video description:
Quote:The Caldari NPC Navy is not spawning for this character that is apart of the Gallente Militia. Since the pilot is not actually a member of the Gallente Militia, I see no reason why the Caldari Navy should shoot him. CCP has no sense of humour. |

Defying
Hateful Munitions Totally Consensual
17
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:28:00 -
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We have been noticing this too... I have been telling guys that I am sure they are just mistaken and that maybe they killed the navy off or something?
He is in a paladin.. is it possible to kill the navy that spawns to kill you and then no more spawns? I mean I dont know im just guesing here. |

Arthur Hellsing
Turalyon Plus
5
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:31:00 -
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The video clearly shows that he is in the Gallente Militia, meaning if he goes Caldari high sec he will be attacked by the NPC navy. It is shown on the overview and i have his Character Information up that also shows he is in the Gallente militia.
I did not catch this on fraps, but he is also tractor beaming yellow wrecks to him! I had just killed someone and even my alt account can not loot/tractor beam the wreck without going suspect, and he just tractor beams it over to his ship. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
33
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:35:00 -
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Is it possible that someone else was drawing them off? It's my (limited) understanding that a system will only produce so many faction navy spawns at one time, and since they are not CONCORD (not even close) they can be permatanked by a ship that is designed to do that. If this person safes up and begins tanking all the navy spawns, then anyone else can roam free. |

Arthur Hellsing
Turalyon Plus
5
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:42:00 -
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He stays undocked in a sniping spot for long amounts of time, sometimes even 40 minuets, no navy appears. The only thing that deters him from going away is when something comes along that he can't handle like 3 battleships, at which point he just docks. There is no way they are being drawn off, the second I undock, BAM navy spawn.
When me and my corp mate undock TWO navy's spawn, one for each of us.
This guy undocks all the time and nothing attacks him. |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1440
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:06:00 -
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Wouldn't it be easier to just file a petition? Since you seem to be accusing him of some kinds of hacks, leave it to the professionals.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
33
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:11:00 -
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Arthur Hellsing wrote:He stays undocked in a sniping spot for long amounts of time, sometimes even 40 minuets, no navy appears. The only thing that deters him from going away is when something comes along that he can't handle like 3 battleships, at which point he just docks. There is no way they are being drawn off, the second I undock, BAM navy spawn. When me and my corp mate undock TWO navy's spawn, one for each of us. This guy undocks all the time and nothing attacks him. edit: in the video it shows him shooting a war target, he is still in the milita. And I forgot to mention, HE HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME! Kill Board
The above method still applies. Apparently your spawn belongs to you. They don't switch up without aggression. So if he has someone draw his Navy spawn off (such as a safed alt with RR) then he has the run of the system as long as he does not dock up or jump. He won't get a new spawn just by being there.
FWIW, we have a handful of our own enemy snipers and campers that frequent Hek and Rens in this fashion, apparently unhindered by faction Navy.
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Baljos Arnjak
Dark Praetorian Order
50
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:51:00 -
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Could it be that he has high standings with Caldari, but is in the Gallente Navy? Used to be that faction rats wouldn't agro you in FW plex's if you had high enough standing. Wouldn't surprise me if it worked that way for police spawns too. |

Ilunes Lailara
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
6
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Posted - 2013.05.11 10:34:00 -
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You're all wrong. The simple fact is the Caldari Navy fears SP-DR and won't dare engage us. There now, move along.. |

Scrutt5
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
20
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Posted - 2013.05.11 10:38:00 -
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Every faction have pilots doing this in the enemy factions trade hubs. Need a glass for all that whine ?
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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
313
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:10:00 -
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I think if they destroy all of the Navy ships and then perhaps they dont spawn again until after DT. Im not sure I've not tried it myself, but I've seen people who have killed the Navy ships before. |

Dav Varan
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
27
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:22:00 -
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RP > OP you need to be flogged through the streets of luminaire for slanderous accusations against a fellow squid basher. RL > Nasal Decongestant is available in all good drug stores or like whatever.
If I didn't respond to you it's because I have auto reject on. Did you send a mail ? No
You we're not blocked but you are now. and after I saved your sorry ass from that Vexor as well.
Pfft.
I am going to report you to the Gallente High Council for treason.
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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
313
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:32:00 -
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I'm guessing it is some kind of standings exploit/glitch after watching the video. I have seen other players completely dispatch the Navy before, but your saying they still spawn for you but not for him, so I'm not sure how this works either. |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1704
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:53:00 -
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Now this is mighty suspicious. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
433
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:54:00 -
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Scrutt5 wrote:Every faction have pilots doing this in the enemy factions trade hubs. Need a glass for all that whine ?
An exploit is still an exploit if everyone does it.
No basically if you were to put out probes or use dscan when he first undocks you would see that he warps alot. What happens is that after some number of warps (lowend 5 high 20) the Navy tries to slow boat to you. Consequently none of their spawns will engage until he docks up.
This is easy to see as Scrutt here is constantly warping about to avoid being shot and the navy will spawn then at some point the navy will stop. While this is going though Dav never gets a spawn.
It is well known to do this in all faction warfare if you want to camp enemy hisec systems. The downside is that because the navy is engaged the logs do show nothing. And apparently pictures and video are not satisfactory evidence to the contrary. |

Julius Priscus
103
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Posted - 2013.05.11 12:21:00 -
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its done the same way that a outlaw does it in high sec.
get an alt/friend to eject froma ship they board it and HELLO no navy spawn |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
313
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Posted - 2013.05.11 17:46:00 -
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This exploit really sucks. Any chance of a comment from CCP on this? |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1285
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Posted - 2013.05.11 19:23:00 -
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Faction navies are a bad, anti-PVP mechanic and shouldn't exist anyway. Players involved in faction warfare should be able to fight eachother freely without NPCs preventing them from doing it effectively. |

Dav Varan
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
27
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Posted - 2013.05.11 19:31:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:This exploit really sucks. Any chance of a comment from CCP on this?
There is no exploit.
There is just a bunch of players who don't understand game mechanics very well.
I don't think OP should be using the forums as a court of public opinion.
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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
313
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Posted - 2013.05.11 19:36:00 -
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Dav Varan wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:This exploit really sucks. Any chance of a comment from CCP on this? There is no exploit. There is just a bunch of players who don't understand game mechanics very well. I don't think OP should be using the forums as a court of public opinion. To be fair, I don't think the majority of players understand this mechanic, and it sounds like a bit of a ****** mechanic to be honest. Not blaming you for using it, but it sounds like something CCP need to sort out. |

Khemax
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.11 20:03:00 -
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Theres a big difference between understanding a design mechanic and exploiting a design oversight |

Virru
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.11 20:10:00 -
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Khemax wrote:Theres a big difference between understanding a design mechanic and exploiting a design oversight
Who are you to say which is which? |

Khemax
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.11 20:12:00 -
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Virru wrote:Khemax wrote:Theres a big difference between understanding a design mechanic and exploiting a design oversight Who are you to say which is which?
Did I say which was which no.....I leave that to CCP to sort out
Sheesh |

Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
71
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Posted - 2013.05.11 21:19:00 -
[25] - Quote
Hmm, lame. File a petition or a bug report, if only to spite them. |

Nightfox BloodRaven
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
12
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:46:00 -
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Honestly he is hacking i once hid in a cloaker and watched him.. no navy spawned on him for over 40 minutes.. he dosent even need to shoot them...
He claims its the game mechanic but honestly he is just a hacker..
and oh yea CCP does not give a fuk .. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14217
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:49:00 -
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Nightfox BloodRaven wrote:Honestly he is hacking i once hid in a cloaker and watched him.. no navy spawned on him for over 40 minutes.. he dosent even need to shoot them...
He claims its the game mechanic but honestly he is just a hacker.. GǪwhich you obviously can proveGǪ somehow? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
433
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Posted - 2013.05.12 02:16:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Nightfox BloodRaven wrote:Honestly he is hacking i once hid in a cloaker and watched him.. no navy spawned on him for over 40 minutes.. he dosent even need to shoot them...
He claims its the game mechanic but honestly he is just a hacker.. GǪwhich you obviously can proveGǪ somehow? Simple he was an AFK cloaker and thus was everywhere for the duration. This is very simple.
Also I have watched Dav as well and he never gets a tail after his little warp exploit. Then again the same thing was done by the Caldari militia in Hek.
The only real annoyance is if one of the freighters decides to warp immediately and then keeps you from warping out immediately in a ship that gets alphastruck.
CCP make undocking intangibility last for the full 30 seconds not just until player action! |

Masrina Yasmin
The Sword and The Shield
3
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Posted - 2013.05.12 03:18:00 -
[29] - Quote
What's the problem? Stop being a derp. Go in cloaked ships.. warp to his position, bump his align. Kill his ship and pod. Navy NPC suck anyway. |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
313
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:10:00 -
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Masrina Yasmin wrote:What's the problem? The problem is the Navy should be attacking him in Jita, as I highly doubt this is an intentional mechanic put in place by CCP. I would have thought that is pretty obvious. |

Dav Varan
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
28
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Posted - 2013.05.13 11:26:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Masrina Yasmin wrote:What's the problem? The problem is the Navy should be attacking him in Jita, as I highly doubt this is an intentional mechanic put in place by CCP. I would have thought that is pretty obvious.
You assumption is incorrect. you are thinking of concord. Concord is the only NPC your are not allowed to avoid.
FW Navies are no different than standard rats spawns allthough much more powerful. If you can avoid there damage you are allowed to do so as long as no bugs are involved.
Now for some re-slandering
Nightfox = Bitter and twisted multiple victim Neonovous = Massive coward, too afraid to fight without 1000 dps navy backup OP = Clueless and Jealous weasel
Facts for OP Idiot "No I can't tractor yellow wrecks, there white to me you dumbass" "Yes I do get shot by navy when I first undock just like everyone else, no I am never gonna tell you how to avoid them :P" "No I don't have you on block unless you were an utter ass at some point in history, I have auto reject switched on"
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14247
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Posted - 2013.05.13 11:33:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Simple he was an AFK cloaker and thus was everywhere for the duration. This is very simple.
Also I have watched Dav as well and he never gets a tail after his little warp exploit. Then again the same thing was done by the Caldari militia in Hek. GǪand the proof that he's hacking isGǪ?
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:The problem is the Navy should be attacking him in Jita, as I highly doubt this is an intentional mechanic put in place by CCP. The FW-hunting navy ships are specifically designed to be evadable, survivable, and defeatable. So unless there's some more detail about what he is (and isn't) doing, then just sitting around and not being attacked is not a problem. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

Julius Priscus
105
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Posted - 2013.05.14 07:08:00 -
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Nightfox BloodRaven wrote:Honestly he is hacking i once hid in a cloaker and watched him.. no navy spawned on him for over 40 minutes.. he dosent even need to shoot them...
He claims its the game mechanic but honestly he is just a hacker..
and oh yea CCP does not give a fuk ..
lol game mechanics ftw and reported for swearing. -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |

Wodensun
ZeroSec
104
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:10:00 -
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Julius Priscus wrote:Nightfox BloodRaven wrote:Honestly he is hacking i once hid in a cloaker and watched him.. no navy spawned on him for over 40 minutes.. he dosent even need to shoot them...
He claims its the game mechanic but honestly he is just a hacker..
and oh yea CCP does not give a fuk .. lol game mechanics ftw and reported for swearing.
Snitches will snitch and ***** over the smallest things Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident... |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
266

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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:52:00 -
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Thread cleaned of trolling, off topic and personal attack posts. Keep it civil people!
Also: moved to Warfare & Tactics. ISD Ezwal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1410
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:56:00 -
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The navy has a maximum number of spawns. These spawns have transferred their aggression to some uber-tanking afk alt in the same system - leaving the other militia members free to beat up on everybody else in the system.
If you have problems with this mechanic, then please move to low sec where you don't have to deal with this stuff.
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Aducat Ragnarson
Cult of the Black Goat
148
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:41:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:The navy has a maximum number of spawns. These spawns have transferred their aggression to some uber-tanking afk alt in the same system - leaving the other militia members free to beat up on everybody else in the system.
If you have problems with this mechanic, then please move to low sec where you don't have to deal with this stuff.
maybe you should actually watch the video before offering an explanation that is obviously not what is happening in the video. |

greg01
Inglorious-Basterds
10
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:54:00 -
[38] - Quote
X Gall is right on the mark. Also, Get a few battleships with neutral reppers and just shoot navy npc's until they stop spawning. Then you can fly around high sec enemy territory without having to worry about being webbed/ neuter etc by the npc's navy. Worked well when RONIN was in OMS next to Villore.
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greg01
Inglorious-Basterds
10
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:00:00 -
[39] - Quote
As for the video..... Why complain about your fellow militia members??? You mention you cannot contact him in the video! I do know SP-DR have plenty of decent pilots that will assist you. Just check their website. |

Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
939
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:23:00 -
[40] - Quote
greg01 wrote:X Gall is right on the mark. Also, Get a few battleships with neutral reppers and just shoot navy npc's until they stop spawning. Then you can fly around high sec enemy territory without having to worry about being webbed/ neuter etc by the npc's navy. Worked well when RONIN was in OMS next to Villore.
Did you actually do this? How many spawns did you have to shoot before they stopped spawning. Did they stop spawning until the next downtime?
I think XG said something different than you. He is suggesting that there is an alt in a safe spot with a large permatank running. All the navy is shooting that perma tank, and leaving all other enemy militia free.
It seems people are quick to say this is, or is not, an exploit when the person doing it hasn't actually described how he does it.
I think if ccp decides they do not want to have navys in high sec they should just do that. But having some wonky way to permanently avoid the navy is pretty silly. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1410
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:25:00 -
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Aducat Ragnarson wrote:X Gallentius wrote:The navy has a maximum number of spawns. These spawns have transferred their aggression to some uber-tanking afk alt in the same system - leaving the other militia members free to beat up on everybody else in the system.If you have problems with this mechanic, then please move to low sec where you don't have to deal with this stuff.
maybe you should actually watch the video before offering an explanation that is obviously not what is happening in the video. Are there no other militia members in the system? If not, then you're right. |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
327
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:35:00 -
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Dav Varan wrote:You assumption is incorrect. you are thinking of concord. Concord is the only NPC your are not allowed to avoid.
FW Navies are no different than standard rats spawns allthough much more powerful. If you can avoid there damage you are allowed to do so as long as no bugs are involved.
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal Using offensive language? Anyway, I wasn't accusing you of exploiting, but just saying this seems like a pretty crap mechanic put in by CCP which allows this to happen. |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
327
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:The FW-hunting navy ships are specifically designed to be evadable, survivable, and defeatable. So unless there's some more detail about what he is (and isn't) doing, then just sitting around and not being attacked is not a problem. I agree, which is why we need more detail. He didn't seem to be evading the Navy in any way, simply sitting there whilst the Navy ignores him.
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Dav Varan
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
28
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:53:00 -
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There have been some good guess , but not right
This is how we do it.
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ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
188
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:17:00 -
[45] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:Edit: Yup you're right. It seems the SPDR has paid off the Caldari Navy.
So thats were all that pesky corp isk gos................wait till tags for sec comes in this is gunna get worse amarr/jita permacamps neone ;)      
GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
188
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:20:00 -
[46] - Quote
Really didnt people read the warning when they joined militia that states you can be attacked by opposing militia newere even in high sec........... kinda gos without saying no exploit is happeneing when you even get warned this can happen.. If youd have read this instead of thinking hurry up lemmie get this toon done to farm LPs, youd realise this GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Julius Foederatus
Hyper-Nova
187
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Posted - 2013.05.14 21:20:00 -
[47] - Quote
You know if people are really that bothered by this, why don't we just get rid of the faction navy and instead make it so FW players can't dock in enemy high sec. |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
373
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:06:00 -
[48] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:The navy has a maximum number of spawns. These spawns have transferred their aggression to some uber-tanking afk alt in the same system - leaving the other militia members free to beat up on everybody else in the system.
If you have problems with this mechanic, then please move to low sec where you don't have to deal with this stuff.
XGal is correct - just because you didn't see something doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
There are 2 ways I know of not be be shot by Navy NPC's in high sec. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

Aducat Ragnarson
Cult of the Black Goat
150
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:18:00 -
[49] - Quote
IbanezLaney wrote:
XGal is correct - just because you didn't see something doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
Watch the video and tell me again how there is an afk tank alt stopping militia to spawn...
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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
482
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Posted - 2013.05.14 23:39:00 -
[50] - Quote
Julius Foederatus wrote:You know if people are really that bothered by this, why don't we just get rid of the faction navy and instead make it so FW players can't dock in enemy high sec.
maybe we could just remove whole militia. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
188
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Posted - 2013.05.14 23:42:00 -
[51] - Quote
Bad Messenger wrote:
maybe we could just remove whole militia.
Actually Bm this is the one thread youd know about draiktrain used to high sec camp very sucessfully bk in the day GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
373
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:51:00 -
[52] - Quote
Aducat Ragnarson wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:
XGal is correct - just because you didn't see something doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
Watch the video and tell me again how there is an afk tank alt stopping militia to spawn...
Cool - I see your point now. I got to watch it again with sound.(At work so had to be sneeky)
Could they have hit the quit militia button once undocked and until a session change things are screwed up?
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
373
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Posted - 2013.05.15 04:31:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Julius Foederatus wrote:You know if people are really that bothered by this, why don't we just get rid of the faction navy and instead make it so FW players can't dock in enemy high sec. maybe we could just remove whole militia.
I have been arguing for the removal of navy npc's for years.
CCP can not comprehend that navy npc's only stop pvp between consenting players and have no place in eve.
If I want to gank a pod in high sec - the navy isn't gonna stop me but they will stop me fighting a valid WT who also wants to fight.
Hopefully one day someone at CCP plays their own game and learns the game mechanics well enough to 'discover' this.
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
329
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:49:00 -
[54] - Quote
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Really didnt people read the warning when they joined militia that states you can be attacked by opposing militia newere even in high sec........... kinda gos without saying no exploit is happeneing when you even get warned this can happen.. If youd have read this instead of thinking hurry up lemmie get this toon done to farm LPs, youd realise this It is nothing to do with not accepting fights. People join the militia to get fights. The problem is when the fighting happens on unfair terms, ie the Navy not attacking WTs in Jita, yet when they go to the opposing enemy FW space then the Navy are attacking them. If you can't understand this, as evident from your previous post, then you are either stupid or just being a troll. |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
329
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:51:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:XGal is correct - just because you didn't see something doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Love it when people claim working as intended like they understand what is going on, and yet when asked they make something up and don't actually have a clue. :)
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Dav Varan
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
29
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Posted - 2013.05.15 11:13:00 -
[56] - Quote
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:It is nothing to do with not accepting fights. People join the militia to get fights. The problem is when the fighting happens on unfair terms, ie the Navy not attacking WTs in Jita, yet when they go to the opposing enemy FW space then the Navy are attacking them. If you can't understand this, as evident from your previous post, then you are either stupid or just being a troll.
Gal and Mini militia - The butthurt being shown by this piece of sputem is most obviousley a symptom of Squid Awokery - Mark for KOS. |

Scrutt5
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
20
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Posted - 2013.05.15 15:49:00 -
[57] - Quote
Mate not only do I love flying with you, you make me laugh when your not online +1
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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
331
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:47:00 -
[58] - Quote
So much inter corporation ass kissing in this thread it is obscene. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
188
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:52:00 -
[59] - Quote
Recech Pucontis wrote:If you can't understand this, as evident from your previous post, then you are either stupid or just being a troll.
Calling me stupid? why because i understand how this mechanic works (and neone can do it) and you dont so you cry on the forums that its broke and an exploit which its neither and fully working as intended....
+1 for high sec tear extraction GÖÑ GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Scrutt5
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
21
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:15:00 -
[60] - Quote
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:So much inter corporation ass kissing in this thread it is obscene.
Great not being an npc corp, you should try it. |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
374
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Posted - 2013.05.16 05:26:00 -
[61] - Quote
Rebecha Pucontis wrote: Love it when people claim working as intended like they understand what is going on, and yet when asked they make something up and don't actually have a clue. :)
Try reading all my posts in the thread before commenting. You missed one.
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

1st-Garrentious WispBender
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.05.16 13:11:00 -
[62] - Quote
You don't know how to voodoo like I do.
Every day.
Doing the Voodoo Shuffle |

Commandarm Lex
Private HeII
0
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Posted - 2013.06.29 22:08:00 -
[63] - Quote
Scrutt5 wrote:Mate not only do I love flying with you, you make me laugh when your not online +1
Maybe you want to fight a brave man? I gladly would break your arms and legs coward, you and your friend monitor lizard, using what is wrong, under the auspices of CCP you hurt people, but I spit in your face, as only a mean and miserable person is able to use it .. . and win in a fair fight you and it will not work! |

Julius Priscus
117
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Posted - 2013.06.30 03:26:00 -
[64] - Quote
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:This exploit really sucks. Any chance of a comment from CCP on this?
CCP Adapt says deal with it. -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |

Tamara Rin
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.30 09:22:00 -
[65] - Quote
anyone from Spiritus Draconis want to share how to do this? 100m to the first one who eve mail me the tactic used on that video, srs  |

Julius Priscus
117
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:28:00 -
[66] - Quote
Tamara Rin wrote:anyone from Spiritus Draconis want to share how to do this? 100m to the first one who eve mail me the tactic used on that video, srs  actually payment will be given after i verify that it does indeed work in enemy hisec 
FFS... I already mentioned it in this thread. -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
151
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:45:00 -
[67] - Quote
Its an exploitation of a bug / unforeseen consequence of the coding. Whether CCP flags it as prohibited or not is up to them. Traditionally CCP lets these exploits be used (see Lofty Scam) until they decide to code them out of game in my experience. |

Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
277
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:46:00 -
[68] - Quote
It's a simple trick really.
And apparently not even an exploit. |

Tamara Rin
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:52:00 -
[69] - Quote
Julius Priscus wrote:Tamara Rin wrote:anyone from Spiritus Draconis want to share how to do this? 100m to the first one who eve mail me the tactic used on that video, srs  actually payment will be given after i verify that it does indeed work in enemy hisec  FFS... I already mentioned it in this thread.
where at  |

Julius Priscus
117
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:53:00 -
[70] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:Its an exploitation of a bug / unforeseen consequence of the coding. Whether CCP flags it as prohibited or not is up to them. Traditionally CCP lets these exploits be used (see Lofty Scam) until they decide to code them out of game in my experience.
exactly..
faction navies and or concord wont show up if there is no ship to kill. not do they show up when you board a ship in high sec outside of a station.
so there you have it op.
show up in a pod.. board a ship and wont have to worry about anyone unless they are a war target/have kr on you or you are an outlaw. -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |

Julius Priscus
117
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:54:00 -
[71] - Quote
Tamara Rin wrote:Julius Priscus wrote:Tamara Rin wrote:anyone from Spiritus Draconis want to share how to do this? 100m to the first one who eve mail me the tactic used on that video, srs  actually payment will be given after i verify that it does indeed work in enemy hisec  FFS... I already mentioned it in this thread. where at 
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3010562#post3010562 -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
195
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:58:00 -
[72] - Quote
nice necro guys
Still no exploit "WORKING AS INTENDED"
P.S that isnt how you do it  GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Tamara Rin
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.30 11:01:00 -
[73] - Quote
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:nice necro guys Still no exploit "WORKING AS INTENDED" P.S that isnt how you do it 
k now i am intrigued  |

Tamara Rin
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.30 11:29:00 -
[74] - Quote
Julius Priscus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Its an exploitation of a bug / unforeseen consequence of the coding. Whether CCP flags it as prohibited or not is up to them. Traditionally CCP lets these exploits be used (see Lofty Scam) until they decide to code them out of game in my experience. exactly.. faction navies and or concord wont show up if there is no ship to kill. not do they show up when you board a ship in high sec outside of a station. so there you have it op. show up in a pod.. board a ship and wont have to worry about anyone unless they are a war target/have kr on you or you are an outlaw.
nope dont work stil get attacked by navy  |

Julius Priscus
117
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Posted - 2013.06.30 12:05:00 -
[75] - Quote
Tamara Rin wrote:Julius Priscus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Its an exploitation of a bug / unforeseen consequence of the coding. Whether CCP flags it as prohibited or not is up to them. Traditionally CCP lets these exploits be used (see Lofty Scam) until they decide to code them out of game in my experience. exactly.. faction navies and or concord wont show up if there is no ship to kill. not do they show up when you board a ship in high sec outside of a station. so there you have it op. show up in a pod.. board a ship and wont have to worry about anyone unless they are a war target/have kr on you or you are an outlaw. nope dont work stil get attacked by navy 
then ccp has fixed the issue.. nothing to see hear move along -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |

Tamara Rin
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.30 15:57:00 -
[76] - Quote
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:nice necro guys Still no exploit "WORKING AS INTENDED" P.S that isnt how you do it 
oh cmon, nobody want to spill the beans?  |

Tamara Rin
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:11:00 -
[77] - Quote
a plex to the person who informs me how to do this, we can get a third party if you want. |

Mra Rednu
Black Watch Guard Amarr 7th Fleet
304
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Posted - 2013.06.30 18:58:00 -
[78] - Quote
Tamara Rin wrote:a plex to the person who informs me how to do this, we can get a third party if you want.
He got high standings to the enemy faction, plex please !  |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
196
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Posted - 2013.06.30 19:13:00 -
[79] - Quote
were in fw no isk needed were rich neway lol
keep trying GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Julius Priscus
117
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Posted - 2013.06.30 19:16:00 -
[80] - Quote
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:we're in fw no isk needed were rich neway lol
keep trying
fixed and I lolled -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |

Tamara Rin
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:02:00 -
[81] - Quote
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:were in fw no isk needed were rich neway lol
keep trying
selfish people i swear, anyway an anonymous person has informed of the super sekret tactic and has also verified that it still works. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
196
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:26:00 -
[82] - Quote
 GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
481
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:48:00 -
[83] - Quote
Since getting my sec status nice and shiny again I've found high secs to be the single most boring place I have ever flown!
Anyone who can be bothered to faff around with npc's to enable them to extract tears from high seccers should be given a medal! They have way way more patience than I.
Looks like i'll be moving back to FW to get some action!! Screw Hs and the **** that goes on there! That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything. |

Icarius
The Wings of Maak Defiant Legacy
11
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Posted - 2013.07.01 07:25:00 -
[84] - Quote
Dav Varan is just better than you, can i have a plex?
Dav Varan should be nerfed, he kills some targets i should kill few jumps away |
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