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Saureco Ovelion
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Posted - 2005.10.10 15:36:00 -
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For those of you who have come across FREGE (Free Galactic Enterprises, or something to that extent), you have probably read that they are a non-pirating, anti-pirate group. Well, according to the other day, that's utter crap.
Kantide and Taxid of FREGE blew up two of our corpmates, Zade and Aiea of Shadow Fist, without any provocation or excuse. When asked why they did that, they stumbled on a couple excuses that eventually fell flat.
1. FREGE: "One of you guys blew one of our guys up"
SHDF: "Post the kill mail"
FREGE: "Uhhh, we don't have it..."
2. FREGE: "Zade was chasing one of our shuttles across multiple systems"
SHDF: "Zade doesn't even own any ships that can chase a shuttle"
3. FREGE: "Your corp's standing with ours is -.5"
SHDF: "Who set it to that and why?"
We later talked to one of their corpmates and asked him to check our standings. We are at 0.0 standings with them. Taxid and Kantide are full of it.
For those of you even considering joining FREGE, only apply if you're a bunch of hyporcrites. For a non-pirating corp, this random act of aggression speaks highly of their members and internal policing abilities. They would neither apologize nor reimburse our victims for their losses. Not that they have to, but at least it shows that this corp/alliance is nothing but a sham.
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.10 16:10:00 -
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Once an alliance gets past 200 members this sort of thing usually happens. get used to it. You where in low sec by all accounts so it could have been frege or a pirate, dont be so a *****.
Get over it, u operate in low sec those asre the dangers.
Don't slam an alliance just because u feel u can publicity out of it
Such is Life
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.10 16:12:00 -
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 Originally by: j0rz
Once an alliance gets past 200 members this sort of thing usually happens. get used to it. You where in low sec by all accounts so it could have been frege or a pirate, dont be so a *****.
Get over it, u operate in low sec those asre the dangers.
Don't slam an alliance just because u feel u can publicity out of it
If an anti-piracy alliance cant keep 200 of their members from becoming pirates then they should be smacked publicly tbh 
Not to mention they should drop either the pirates or the anti-pirate tag 
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.10.10 16:13:00 -
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They deserve to be slated publicly, nice1 Saureco 
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insuperable
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Posted - 2005.10.10 16:44:00 -
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Shadow fist corp are known pirates. Frege are anti-pirate, nuff said.
Interesting...
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2005.10.10 16:45:00 -
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Pft, Who cares. Any pvp 4tw.
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Luke Skyrider
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Posted - 2005.10.10 17:53:00 -
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* DAB raise hand !!
FREGE, can we get reimbursement for our shuttles lost in Pure Blind (we got killmails) that was abused by ebil ninjas, refugees run amuck, pirates, rebels and other random violence. We thought you guys was anti-anti-violence-anti-pirates with all your anti-violence commercials at the concord billboards 
btw Anti-anti-violence 4tw 
PS. Joking, stay in empire its safer.
Pressure makes diamonds!! [DAB] |
Imran
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Posted - 2005.10.10 17:59:00 -
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:D go Frege, "anti pirate" is sooo last year.
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Robert Dobbs
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Posted - 2005.10.10 18:53:00 -
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Anyone who posts on the forums complaining about being shot at by a small carebear alliance deserves to get tackleganked until they're sore.
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Gaeth hEirennan
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Posted - 2005.10.10 18:57:00 -
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I "officially" agree with Imran.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.10.10 19:14:00 -
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Ahh yes, the alliancce with the chinese corp that spamms escrows with rediclius scams. Here's a hint, atleast make them believeable.
Anyone that kills them is doing gods work.
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Taxid
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Posted - 2005.10.10 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Saureco Ovelion
1. FREGE: "One of you guys blew one of our guys up"
SHDF: "Post the kill mail"
FREGE: "Uhhh, we don't have it..."
The person in question did not attack me or Kanti so... With that many people in an alliance it's hard to have everyone online to satisfy your request. I also never said he blew anyone up. I said he shot at them. That's enough for me.
Originally by: Saureco Ovelion
2. FREGE: "Zade was chasing one of our shuttles across multiple systems"
SHDF: "Zade doesn't even own any ships that can chase a shuttle"
The shuttle chase/lock was not one of our pilots and was only brought to our attention by one of our allied alliances when Zade jumped in our public channel screaming OMG OMG OMG. This just added to the situation.
Originally by: Saureco Ovelion
3. FREGE: "Your corp's standing with ours is -.5"
SHDF: "Who set it to that and why?"
Our corp has no standings towards you. You are listed as -5 to the alliance per the incident in #1. As I am not a member of the executor corp I have no rights to change standings and am unable to review logs of standing changes.
I also find it especially amusing that to prove "Your not pirates" after the cease fire was called you went and started ganking random neutral miners around the area... That really reinforces your position.
Anyone that thinks these guys are not pirates? Look at any of their bio's, then look at their CEO... And stop feeding the "We're on pirating vacation" line, it's not working. I had no problems with you guys in that space until you supposedly shot at one of our pilots causing a standings change, weather it happened or not? Doesn't really matter to me at this point.
Also the cease fire for you to evacuate that space without being shot at expired ~2 hours ago.
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Moridan
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Posted - 2005.10.10 20:28:00 -
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There are no pirates in pure blind.
There are only people I shoot, people I go shooting people with, and people I don't shoot. And some of those I don't shoot, I should shoot anyways. Neutrals are so boring.
Anyone whining about getting shot at in Pureblind by a neutral might as well go whine about getting their mins stolen as they mine in Nonni.
"Speak quietly and carry a big torpedo."
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.10.10 20:46:00 -
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there are no pirats there are no carebears there is no right or wrong there are just blue squares and not blue squares
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Zade Trebblehorn
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Posted - 2005.10.10 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: Zade Trebblehorn on 10/10/2005 21:52:25
Just to let it be known. Saureco does not speak for Shadow Fist corporation. These are his own opinions, and do not necessarily reflect those of the Shadow Fist leadership.
We are pirates, but we were "playing nice" in Placid while we built up our assets for another move. We had no intention of pirating in the region, and were happily minding our own business.
This is until we got attacked because of some phantom story they created about one of our people attacking a member of FREGE. Repeated attempts to get the name of the attacker have gone unanswered, and their claims are completely unproven.
We resumed pirating after it was clear we no longer were in neutral standing with FREGE, and we blew up -1- ship to prove a point that we were playing by the rules until you broke them.
A 36 hour ceasefire was negotiated by Babs Johnson of Ekliptika. We had every intention of adhering to this agreement, and would have been moved out of the region within that timeframe. Due to an unfortunate real life emergency involving our CEO, those plans had to be put on hold for 1 day.
Shadow Fist has no intention to engage in any PvP activities (war dec, pirating, even traveling in low sec) while we remain in the Placid region.
Shadow Fist members outside of the leadership are not to speak on this matter anymore on these forums. We will also have no correspondence with the FREGE alliance at this time.
Executive Officer, Shadow Fist |
Fenris Wolf
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Posted - 2005.10.11 00:28:00 -
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If Eve is being too mean to you, you can always click this Linkage
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.10.11 00:59:00 -
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FREGE are crunchy
"Corpse cannot be fitted onto ship. Only hardware modules can be fitted." |
Coupo
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Posted - 2005.10.11 18:32:00 -
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omg Fenris Wolf i cant stop playing that game.. DAMN YOU SIR!
I Shoot first, ask questions about your veldspar mining technique later
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.10.11 19:43:00 -
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I was in the FREGE Alliance at one point, some of them are alright.
~Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss
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Quakindude
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Posted - 2005.10.11 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: Quakindude on 11/10/2005 21:52:18
Edited by: Quakindude on 11/10/2005 21:48:41
Originally by: Saureco Ovelion
For those of you who have come across FREGE (Free Galactic Enterprises, or something to that extent), you have probably read that they are a non-pirating, anti-pirate group. Well, according to the other day, that's utter crap.
So let me get this right. You are whinning about an Anti-Pirate Alliance shooting Pirates? ROFLMFAO!
Originally by: Zade Trebblehorn
We are pirates, but we were "playing nice" in Placid while we built up our assets for another move. We had no intention of pirating in the region, and were happily minding our own business.
This is until we got attacked because of some phantom story they created about one of our people attacking a member of FREGE. Repeated attempts to get the name of the attacker have gone unanswered, and their claims are completely unproven.
We resumed pirating after it was clear we no longer were in neutral standing with FREGE, and we blew up -1- ship to prove a point that we were playing by the rules until you broke them.
Nice explanation. Resumed pirating? Yet you claim you were neutral with Frege. Did you have a NAP or any other form of understanding with them? Why would an Anti-Pirate Alliance tolerate your passing through any way? If you are anti-pirate, that is enough reason to go ahead and shoot any one of your members. I belong to an Anti-Pirate Alliance as well. Sometimes you may pass through and we leave you alone. Other times, we may attack you. Depends on the stardate. Does that sound like pirating? SURE IT DOES! IF you're a pirate, it is natural and expected for you to gank unsuspecting pilots. If you are NOT a pirate, and are indeed anti-pirate, thus the moniker "ANTI", then you are simply doing what comes natural. I don't get ganked by every pirate, but in low security space, it's all free shooting anyway.
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Longortha
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Posted - 2005.10.11 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: Longortha on 11/10/2005 21:49:22
Ooops.
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Neverous
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Posted - 2005.10.12 05:10:00 -
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The policy I founded when I started Free Galactic Enterprises (FREGE) states that if you are fired upon or any member of your team is fired upon or threatened you have the responsibility to defend yourself and your assets. This also includes your corpmates and in this case alliance mates. Taxid's actions were justified and require no reprocussions. Next time you decide to threaten or pursue and or engage in combat or any otherwise non-civil act against a FREGE member you may think twice if not you will be hostily delt with. Any agressive act twords a FREGE alliance member is concidered an act against our anti-piracy mission and you will be placed in the same catagory as those we founded the Corp and alliance to abolish. Have a nice day!
NEVEROUS
FREGE - FLEET ADMIRAL (CORP FOUNDER)
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ShotCaller
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Posted - 2005.10.18 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: ShotCaller on 18/10/2005 00:45:34
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Phichi
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Posted - 2005.10.18 00:47:00 -
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/emote hands Saureco some cheese to go with his whine
Hows it hangin Sobeseki?
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.10.19 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: Phichi
Hows it hangin Sobeseki?
Got me a lot of targets now
~Captain Cutie, HFS Iron Fist
Biomass fears me.
Captain Cutie does not speak for the Phoenix Alliance. |
Phichi
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Posted - 2005.10.19 08:29:00 -
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hehe glad i can be of help
cya on the battlefield
still good to cya, gl and good hunting
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