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Nephyium
No Win Scenario
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Posted - 2013.05.12 00:29:00 -
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With all the recent updates, I've noticed there is little change to the actual universe environment.
And here I submit a list of ideas that we should have in the future.
Multi-star system - I know there are systems with more than one suns, why not add it in the game?
Comets - Even just for visual effects, can we have some of these in the systems?
Miniature black holes - An anomaly that will vaporize in time, around it will cause disruption to all electrical system due to immense amount of radiation. But also it draws debris and asteroids around it. When it dies, it will either disappear quietly or in a supernova.
Stellar black holes - A system that is rotate around one or more black holes. Instead of the sun being in the center of the system, a black hole took its place, or a combination of both. Some interesting environment can be setup around this type of systems.
Interstellar cloud - An accumulation of gas, plasma and dust in systems. It could reduce visual range or sensor detection distance.
Space radiation storms - Randomly caused by an explosion on the sun accelerates solar protons, disrupts electrical systems on the ships.
Space aurora - Be able to see auroras near planets from space, should be really cool on visuals. It's great for space romance.
Plasma cloud - A blob of charged plasma unleashed by sun spot, will damage anything within it's path, better get your shield and armor ready.
Dense nebula - Left over by supernova or exploded suns, it will create some cool space environments around it's vicinity.
Asteroid clusters - A newly formed system that doesn't have any planets yet, entire system is surrounded by millions of asteroids, it'll be a great adventure to navigate through the asteroid maze and search for the treasure.
The core of galaxy - Create some systems near the core of galaxy and give us a direct visual of the massive black hole at the center of the galaxy. It'll prove how insignificant we are compare the size of the galaxy.
All these suggestions is mostly for visual and exploration, any other ideas are welcome too. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2013.05.12 00:51:00 -
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Interesting. Perhaps these can be useful for the "new types of space" that CCP wants to let us build stargates to sometime within the next five years. |
Nephyium
No Win Scenario
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Posted - 2013.05.12 14:29:00 -
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Hopefully this doesn't take that long, some of the stuff is really simple to add, some will be objects and some as dynamic background. |
kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2013.05.12 15:14:00 -
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Thought there were already multi sun systems |
gawrshmapooo
Es and Whizz
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2013.05.12 16:29:00 -
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kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Thought there were already multi sun systems
Nope :/
Would be pretty cool though.
"Bro, gatecamp on D-scan, warp to the sun QUICK!"
"SH*T WHICH ONE?!" |
Elder Ozzian
Frozen Dawn Inc
Arctic Light
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Posted - 2013.05.12 16:57:00 -
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"Stellar black holes - A system that is rotate around one or more black holes. Instead of the sun being in the center of the system, a black hole took its place, or a combination of both. Some interesting environment can be setup around this type of systems."
No star = no light. That would be.... AWESOME! Think about it, you have powerful lights on your ships that tracks the target. Camera-drones will have some kind-of-nightvision that you could turn off and just watch how asteroids reflects your hulks mining lasers lights back or your POS beacon lights pulsing. How would you feel if you can see how dark the cold space is?
I disagree! |
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.12 17:11:00 -
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When I first started playing I started racing for the sun
Nothing happened, other than my eyes burning 
I was kind of disappointed finding out that we wont be visiting any of the landmarks in Odyssey, would be perfect timing too...they've been sitting their untouched for so long. |
Stegas Tyrano
glu canu
Open Space Consultancy
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Posted - 2013.05.12 18:18:00 -
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+1
We need new space environments.
I'd particularly like a dark area where we have to use lights and or night vision.
Herping your derp since 19Potato --á[Proposal] - Ingame Visual Adverts |
Alec Polaris
The Pilots Who Say Ni
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Posted - 2013.05.12 18:33:00 -
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I hope CCP plans to implement ideas like this in the future. Alone, EVE's space can feel redundant and boring after a while, because the environment itself lacks the dynamic feeling that the game as a whole is known for. I'd love to have to adapt to an unpredictable environment or even a system that is known to have certain unique static themes within it, like the aforementioned "dark" systems. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:01:00 -
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Yes, yes and yes again to dynamic astrological events but not with the damage or knocking out of electrical systems. Or ships are hardened to this due to the harsh environments we came from and go into (role playing this a bit.).
Nice ideas though, I like where your head is at.
I especially the idea of an almost dark system that required lights to be used and with a possible NVG look to the screen, maybe even a "Flood Light" module or "NVG" module that uses cap but grants more visibility.
+1 and a little bumpage too for free :)
EDIT: Check out my idea in my sig, give it some love, give it some venom but it a look nonetheless 
My Feature\Idea:-áFast Character Switching "XP Stylee" |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative.
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:16:00 -
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Elder Ozzian wrote:"Stellar black holes - A system that is rotate around one or more black holes. Instead of the sun being in the center of the system, a black hole took its place, or a combination of both. Some interesting environment can be setup around this type of systems."
No star = no light. That would be.... AWESOME! Think about it, you have powerful lights on your ships that tracks the target. Camera-drones will have some kind-of-nightvision that you could turn off and just watch how asteroids reflects your hulks mining lasers lights back or your POS beacon lights pulsing. How would you feel if you can see how dark the cold space is?
No sun = no planets.
besides, do you know how FAR a planet would have to be from ANY black hole to "orbit" it without being sucked towards its extreme gravity? far enough that warping from the "sun" to planet I would take half an hour.
as for Binary and trinary star systems? in EVE lore i thought these were pretty common, just werent used ingame because of art assets.
(and before binary/trinary stars, i wanna see binary/trinary planets) |
Felsusguy
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:26:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:do you know how FAR a planet would have to be from ANY black hole to "orbit" it without being sucked towards its extreme gravity?
Black holes do not have any sort of "super mega ultra powerful gravity". They actually have less gravity than the star that created them. What's really special about them is that it is all concentrated in one point, which, ironically, lets planets get closer to them than the original star.
How droll. |
Nephyium
No Win Scenario
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:39:00 -
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Felsusguy wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:do you know how FAR a planet would have to be from ANY black hole to "orbit" it without being sucked towards its extreme gravity? Black holes do not have any sort of "super mega ultra powerful gravity". They actually have less gravity than the star that created them. What's really special about them is that it is all concentrated in one point, which, ironically, lets planets get closer to them than the original star.
Yes, a black hole does not change the orbit of the planets around it, as long as the mass of the black hole stays the same. For example, if our sun turns into black hole, and the mass does not change, our orbit will be still the same, the only thing affects the gravity is the total mass of the sun/black hole. The black hole's gravitational field only dramatically increase when getting extremely close. As Fg = G (m1*m2)/(d^2) force of gravity is equal the product of two masses divide by the distance square, so as long as you stay far enough from the black hole, it won't affect anything around it. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate
Sailors of the Sacred Spice
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:51:00 -
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We should have wh effects in k space too...
Standings Improvement Service
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Nephyium
No Win Scenario
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Posted - 2013.05.13 23:35:00 -
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bump |
Frake Lomes
Century Citadel
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Posted - 2013.05.13 23:45:00 -
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Maybe just include some random "System Effects"
Real Life example: Solar Flares, Geomagnetic storms, Killer Asteroids the size of Texas bearing down on some poor planet with terribad actors, etc. etc.
Bring the randomness on, make life interesting (ish) |
ravill rivyll
State Protectorate
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.13 23:59:00 -
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+1 for this ! I would like to see more dark and dangerous places. I imagine dark space where you are on the end of the known universe and you run into this http://ferrebeekeeper.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/quasar.jpg?w=490&h=373 ... in eve I feel damn safe... nothing cant hurt me but npcs... the space itself should be dangerous ! |
Nephyium
No Win Scenario
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:03:00 -
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bump |
Roime
Ten Thousand Years
Shinjiketo
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:19:00 -
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+1
Add more NPC traffic and orbital structures, landmarks and general signs of non-capsuleer life as well.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
marVLs
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:34:00 -
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From always i dream about EVE that's have more to offer in space feel
+ over 9000!!! |
DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:59:00 -
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+ 1 from me.
Quote:No star = no light. That would be.... AWESOME!
This is a fallacy, light can indeed escape a Black Hole, and other celestial objects in the system (then revolving around said Black Hole) do often emit light as well. Such as system would not necessarily be pitch black.
Quote:No sun = no planets.
Fallacy #2. There are in fact MANY Black Holes that scientists have discovered that have everything from Planets to binary Stars to many other object orbiting them, in a sharp decay, but on the scale of a human life, we wouldn't even notice the difference. Some of such orbits wouldn't even decay 1 cm over the course of a human lifespan... Bah, Felsusguy beat me to it.
The Operative:-á"There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now".
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds:-á"You have no idea how true that is". |
Steve Spooner
Mordu's Military Industrial Command
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2013.05.15 08:13:00 -
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Comet mining for ice? |
DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
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Posted - 2013.05.15 08:29:00 -
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Steve Spooner wrote:Comet mining for ice?
Absolutely love this idea.
The Operative:-á"There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now".
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds:-á"You have no idea how true that is". |
Nephyium
No Win Scenario
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:44:00 -
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Newly formed systems can be added too, that most of the planets still in the phase of becoming planets but still mostly in the form of gases. It'll do great for gas mining too. |
Nephyium
No Win Scenario
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Posted - 2013.05.22 04:19:00 -
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Around 60% of the star systems are made up by 2 or more suns in a system, which is a fact in astronomy. And sometimes even black hole comes in pairs...
Add some neutron stars, like magnetar, pulsar, or magnetar-pulsar neutron star systems...how they affect surrounding area....
Neutron star
Pulsar
Magnetar |
Jalambo
Embasy of Federated Suns
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Posted - 2013.05.22 12:24:00 -
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+1 |
Mr VonBraun
Relativity Industrial
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:41:00 -
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bump. This needs to happen. More random natural events, different enviroments and stuff. There is a lot more to a galaxy than people flying around in ships trying to pick fights with each other. Let's make the Enviroment a major part of EVE again! |
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:13:00 -
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Adding something to the list.
I think it would be great if they can make everything orbit. I know they can't make any real orbits because things will hit each other, but they can make a fixed orbit. However, if they make any type of orbit, they need to realistically do something with the speeds.
(You orbit faster when you're closer to the sun)
The cool thing with this is it would add an interesting layer pvp since the gates could move far or close to their target. |
Blastil
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:00:00 -
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Maximus Aerelius wrote:Yes, yes and yes again to dynamic astrological events but not with the damage or knocking out of electrical systems. Or ships are hardened to this due to the harsh environments we came from and go into (role playing this a bit.). Nice ideas though, I like where your head is at. I especially the idea of an almost dark system that required lights to be used and with a possible NVG look to the screen, maybe even a "Flood Light" module or "NVG" module that uses cap but grants more visibility. +1 and a little bumpage too for free :) EDIT: Check out my idea in my sig, give it some love, give it some venom but it a look nonetheless
You realize that in space:
1) Space is already very very dark.
2) Dispite all that, Even on the darkside of a planet, stars provide some illumination
3) A 'flashlight' is entirely USELESS IN SPACE since there are no objects for the light to bounce off of within reasonable distance. (in space, no one can see your flashlight beam, not even you.)
4) Your EVE starship is outfitted with sensors capable of detecting stellar phenomenon instantaneously (that needs to be explained to me =P ) and is also capable of tracking targets no larger than a few meters at distances greater than 100 or 200 KM.
5) according to eve lore, this data is all interpreted into a graphical interface for your convenience anyway. if a capsuleer chose to represent a titan as loveybear in his UI he could.
this 'darkness' mechanic is as gimicky as it is unsound in RL mechanics and lore... |
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:20:00 -
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Blastil wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:Yes, yes and yes again to dynamic astrological events but not with the damage or knocking out of electrical systems. Or ships are hardened to this due to the harsh environments we came from and go into (role playing this a bit.). Nice ideas though, I like where your head is at. I especially the idea of an almost dark system that required lights to be used and with a possible NVG look to the screen, maybe even a "Flood Light" module or "NVG" module that uses cap but grants more visibility. +1 and a little bumpage too for free :) EDIT: Check out my idea in my sig, give it some love, give it some venom but it a look nonetheless You realize that in space: 1) Space is already very very dark. 2) Dispite all that, Even on the darkside of a planet, stars provide some illumination 3) A 'flashlight' is entirely USELESS IN SPACE since there are no objects for the light to bounce off of within reasonable distance. (in space, no one can see your flashlight beam, not even you.) 4) Your EVE starship is outfitted with sensors capable of detecting stellar phenomenon instantaneously (that needs to be explained to me =P ) and is also capable of tracking targets no larger than a few meters at distances greater than 100 or 200 KM. 5) according to eve lore, this data is all interpreted into a graphical interface for your convenience anyway. if a capsuleer chose to represent a titan as loveybear in his UI he could. this 'darkness' mechanic is as gimicky as it is unsound in RL mechanics and lore...
Some of that is not entirely true. Space isn't dark. It's just nothing with our eyes.(If you have the right cameras for finding x-ray, etc. space glows up like a christmas tree. In fact, most gas giants are invisible to the naked eye.)
Most of the "dark" in space is dark matter. (A fancy way of saying we know it's there, but we don't know what it is) Basically we know dark matter can bend light, but light can go through it like water. You can't see, touch, measure, etc yet. The only reason why we know it's there is the fact that it bends long distance light.
However, in theory if you have a bright enough light and a wide beam. You should be able to light up an entire side of a planet. But, the thing you need to keep in mind is in real life, light takes about a bill of a second to travel 1 foot. (so if you're far away it could take a while before the light bounces back. Also, you're never seeing anything in real time. (I think it takes 5 bil of a second for the light to travel from your eyes to parts of your brain that knows what it sees)
Anyways, nav space with a floodlight is stupid (If you know anything about space). In real life, there is too much out there we don't know.
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