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bundy bear
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Posted - 2005.10.11 12:11:00 -
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Hello all
have been looking at the territorial map and which enteties own which region. I would like to ask which regions are the most valuable? No real reason for wanting to know this, but it would be good to know what alot of the 0.0 alliances are actually fighting over everytime i look at the territory map.
This can be in terms of: Best ORE/ICE Defendability NPC spawns Complexes
Maybe each of the above can be rated out of 10 then an average can be made. Dont want to know every single region but would be great to know all the major ones.
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zergrush keke
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Posted - 2005.10.11 12:25:00 -
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Syndicate for ore =]
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.10.11 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: zergrush keke Syndicate for ore =]
indeed
more specifically the JQV/MK7 constelations...
Cul-de-sac, NPC stations and some ice belts here and there
..dunno about complexes tho
problem? the 1001+10e90 pirate corps that roam in the area. -------------------
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.10.11 12:43:00 -
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Best defencablity has to be Fountain or Cache.
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juduzz
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Posted - 2005.10.11 12:45:00 -
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2005.10.11 13:01:00 -
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Upper syndicate.. without a doubt
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.11 13:03:00 -
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Evolution picked the best regions. RKK secured the best regions. BNC mined them all out.
No point invading BoB space, it is now empty.
Honest.
Nothing to see here, move along. ______________________________________________
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awebon
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Posted - 2005.10.11 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Evolution picked the best regions. RKK secured the best regions. BNC mined them all out.
No point invading BoB space, it is now empty.
Honest.
Nothing to see here, move along.
he's probably not lying either! bnc are teh carebears of all time 
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.10.11 13:49:00 -
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Curse... cuz its fun Great wildlands... just go to u3k and look at the number of belts with ark.. 30 something i think.. and like curse... fun
fountain, paragon yadda yadda yadda its not the same.. im partial to home.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.11 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Evolution picked the best regions. RKK secured the best regions. BNC mined them all out.
No point invading BoB space, it is now empty.
Honest.
Nothing to see here, move along.
1 man strip mining fleets for the f'ing lose 
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.10.11 14:01:00 -
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Fountain i believe is the best. Ark, NPC stations and fairly decent rats that are easy to kill
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.11 14:03:00 -
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Genesis
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2005.10.11 14:13:00 -
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Stain - alot of npc stations and good spawns. Those sanshas die so easy and drop awesome loot. When it comes to mining i don't know.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.10.11 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra Best defencablity has to be Fountain....
Disagree, it depends on the type of defending that needs to be done.
Attacking a region with NPC stations is very easy. Defending a region with NPC stations "guriella(spelling?) style" is also very easy. Securing a region with NPC stations is pretty damn difficult.
As for the "best" region, id say the ex-JQA space was pretty good. Particularly for miners, not so much for NPC hunters though. I think there's a 10/10 quite clsoe to it too..
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Nimbu
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Posted - 2005.10.11 14:28:00 -
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I thought the inner regions of FADE were quite good in terms of defence. iirc once you got c4c, the gates all ran back to dead ends or just looped behind it.
Mining gotta be Ex CA space. /me remembers the mining ops around o-w, and the various huge deposits of ark around the place.
Providence used to be good for the smaller corps out there. Used to be nice minerals 7+ jumps from misaba, till the pirates came that is (met my first one out there, Baun if you must know, :P , again iirc the long route round was via ghey, which was quite away and CA never bothered to venture north of HED.
99% of the above is said in RP. The Other 1% is personal, and should be taken that way. :P
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.10.11 14:48:00 -
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Hard to say.
The north is pretty damn nice, branch, tneal and deklein regions have decent defendability combined with good layout and good ore ditribution.
But some southern areas are even better.
I'd personally say that Fountain and delve put together could well make the nicest spread of 0.0 around in this age of outposts.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.10.11 14:53:00 -
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Tribute by far. Not that the ore is great, or the npc'ing is, but everyone and their mother comes to visit every now and then, and that means paaaaaarrrttttyyyy 
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Stratego
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Posted - 2005.10.11 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra Best defencablity has to be Fountain or Cache.
ROFL, yeah we all saw what happened to FA ;)
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.10.11 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow Fountain i believe is the best. Ark, NPC stations and fairly decent rats that are easy to kill
Not to mention good complexes and the best -10 sec status system in all of EVE.
Also, the skill of the players inhabiting the region has no effect on the actual value of the region.
Feythabolis and Omist are also quite good regions for the same reason as Venal/Tenal/Whatever (I'm not at home in the north) are good - noone ever go there unless you make a fuss. --
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Hackett
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Posted - 2005.10.11 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hast Genesis
He didn't want to know your favourite band.....

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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.10.11 15:26:00 -
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Cache, Syndicate and Fountain. --------
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2005.10.11 15:32:00 -
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Catch for the strategic importance. Lessened so since they opened up more gates to 0.0, but still a major route into 0.0 for 4 large alliances. _______________________________________________
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.10.11 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
Feythabolis and Omist are also quite good regions for the same reason as Venal/Tenal/Whatever (I'm not at home in the north) are good - noone ever go there unless you make a fuss.
Feythabolis is pretty good, but if you look at the true security status of its systems, only three or four of the "arms" are any good. Compared to other deep 0.0 regions such as Cache, Period Basis, Paragon Soul, Tenal, Delklenin etc. its ore/spawns on average wont be quite as good.
Also the angel pirates are harder to fight than say Sanshas or Guristas, for the moment, till the NPC changes come in that is, then Serpentis and Angels will be the easier ones imo.
It's also a loongg long way from empire, although that can be considered good or bad.
Omist is a ****-hole, with only one constellation worth any real "value" as far as 0.0 space goes and considering the distance it is from empire. There is one other strange thing though, and that's for some reason you get Bistot and a Refinery in the same system, which im not aware exists anywhere else in the south.
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Fitz Chivalry
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Posted - 2005.10.11 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Fitz Chivalry on 11/10/2005 15:52:56 Impass is our home but it has to be one of the worst areas in 0.0 - no system with a true sec rating of better than about -0.5 and Angels :(
Angels are not only very hard to kill (and you cant use Apocs or Geddons against them with any success) but they never drop and decent loot unless you fly minmatar ships or like using Miner I's 
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Regma
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Posted - 2005.10.11 15:52:00 -
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If I think back to Tenerifis, I remember that being quite a good region. JV1V was a true -1.0 system iirc and one jump over was a -0.8. (Don't hold me to this).
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.10.11 16:01:00 -
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Always been a fan of Fade, just wish it had a bit more lower sec systems...(*shakes fist at Fountain*)
/me wants his uberer galente mods *crys*
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2005.10.11 16:14:00 -
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not sure
maby just the memories, but branch is nice, to be honest all i can talk about living wise is the north never lived in the south for more than a few months max. ---------------------------------- "Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move earth." Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.10.11 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Stratego
Originally by: Shin Ra Best defencablity has to be Fountain or Cache.
ROFL, yeah we all saw what happened to FA ;)
You're forgetting that FA quite efficiently both blobbed up and defended well enough, for over a year before it went downhill. 
It changed quite a bit with Cold war though..but for pure isk-making it certainly is a region 'up there'. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |

The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.10.11 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Stratego
Originally by: Shin Ra Best defencablity has to be Fountain or Cache.
ROFL, yeah we all saw what happened to FA ;)
Oh yea, gotta keep thump'n that chest about smashing an all but dead alliance...yawn, 
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.10.11 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: DoctorGonzo on 11/10/2005 17:21:58
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Stratego
Originally by: Shin Ra Best defencablity has to be Fountain or Cache.
ROFL, yeah we all saw what happened to FA ;)
Oh yea, gotta keep thump'n that chest about smashing an all but dead alliance...yawn, 
Oh yea, you got keep replying in threads when BoB are mentioned.. yawn 
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.10.11 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra Best defencablity has to be Fountain or Cache.
Fountain is nigh impossible to defend. 
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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.10.11 17:48:00 -
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Well I've lived in many regions within the game, since the early days. I'm responding in regard to the region's value as measured by high-end ore.
No question in my mind that Branch region is best for miners. The quantity of Crok and Mercoxit and its proximity to refine makes it the best place in the game, if your intention is to sell the minerals to get ISK.
Early on in the game I lived in Fountain region, which was also very nice, more megacyte opportunities there than in Branch and also relatively good proximity to refine.
Syndicate has a couple patches of good ore but as a whole Syndicate is crappy "fly-over country".
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.11 17:55:00 -
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Mining: Branch Isk Making: Delve / fountain (tie) Strategically: Catch Security: Omist / fethyabollis Agents: Venal
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.11 19:35:00 -
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Aye, branch is nice, BKG Refinery with crok insystem is good, but PA charge 15% tax on refining which is bad lol.
I alwayts liked immensea myself, but thats just cos of the great memories of battles and killmails.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.10.11 19:52:00 -
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if you're defending you've already lost
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Chee
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Posted - 2005.10.11 20:21:00 -
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Fountain bar none. Got low sec systems with high end ore. Good spawns all around. If your looking for carebear prey, this is the place to be. If your looking for good tough fights, also the place to be. very important: it links north and south, key position for 0.0 travel/expanding territory.
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ElCapitan
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Posted - 2005.10.11 21:28:00 -
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my personal favorite region is delve. Got good easy npcs, a ton of complexes, good mining and npc stations with great quality agent few jumps away.
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.10.12 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: DoctorGonzo Edited by: DoctorGonzo on 11/10/2005 17:21:58
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Stratego
Originally by: Shin Ra Best defencablity has to be Fountain or Cache.
ROFL, yeah we all saw what happened to FA ;)
Oh yea, gotta keep thump'n that chest about smashing an all but dead alliance...yawn, 
Oh yea, you got keep replying in threads when BoB are mentioned.. yawn 
Ummmm, well yea, after you bit didn't you...<in best Darth Vader voice> "All too easy"
Cheers Hooch, Friend of BoB a mis-understood alliance 
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Dufas
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Posted - 2005.10.12 06:15:00 -
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stain...if you love veld 
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Thrak
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Posted - 2005.10.12 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch Ummmm, well yea, after you bit didn't you...<in best Darth Vader voice> "All too easy"
Cheers Hooch, Friend of BoB a mis-understood alliance 
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algorythm
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Posted - 2005.10.12 06:52:00 -
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Of what I seen: Best defence: the JQA/MK7 constelations in syndicate. heck, JQA alliance was 95% carebears and we were able to defend it from everything that came in untill Supremacy came in (props to them!) Best Ore: Fountain/Delve/Period Basis Best proffitable space for miners: Syndicate (close to empire with yummy crockite) Best NPC Loot: Hard to say, I would probably favour Immensea since its angels area and Im minmatar :P As long is a -1 security system its usually good. Best Complexes: didnt see enough __________________________ Man usually avoids attributing cleverness to somebody else -- unless it is an enemy. -- Albert Einstein
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Skyraker7
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Posted - 2005.10.12 09:45:00 -
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Wolverhampton.
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Draximus Cane
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Posted - 2005.10.12 10:24:00 -
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Im told the money is all in Gemenite at the moment
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M0535
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Posted - 2005.10.12 10:29:00 -
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I'm guessing Cache, as the northern end basically gets farmed.... Ice, Ark, Merc and a 10/10 complex
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.10.12 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: zergrush keke Syndicate for ore =]
No no, O.R.E. is definitely outer ring :).
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.10.12 11:21:00 -
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fade is amazing place for a small alliance, clloud ring is also very small, but is over populated.. i couldent belive it when i went through cloud ring .. so much ore ... *droool* veldsparrrr
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Smokey Joe
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Posted - 2005.10.12 12:01:00 -
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Best region for NPCs without a doubt is Stain. Easy to kill/tank and lots of high end battleships, officers, and hauler spawns. Oh yea, and the loot is great too and grinds up even better.
Best 0.0 region for general quality of living is Stain. The region is huge and has NPC stations everywhere. There is always a quiet place to hunt and there is no shortage of refining and production facilities.
Best 0.0 region for mission runners is Stain. Once again, the size of the region and the number of NPC stations makes it easy to find a quiet area to do missions in.
If you are after high end ore, then any region other than Stain. 
Without a doubt, the region that is impossible to defend is Stain. We are back to the size of the region and the number of NPC production stations.
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.10.12 12:05:00 -
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Fountain never fell. They're all still there. There are no BoB in Fountain. There are no BoB in Fountain. It's all lies.
That said, everyone should flock to YZ-LQL and buy some PDU II's
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.10.12 12:09:00 -
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why outer ring is not the best it does have the bes mining agents around....
I knew there was a reason I love that region 
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.10.12 12:44:00 -
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Feythbolis in the deep south ( I am personally based in 2-r). I can mine ark/bis/merc. I got close access to 2 complexes(7,8) and access to the baddest Angels and the baddest Sansha.
I can't complain. I haven't visited empire for several months now.
We have numbers( very useful people are always visting empire and bringing stuff I can't get locally down for me), money, willingness to fight intruders and patience.
Also the Ascenian markets are better than many places.
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twit brent
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Posted - 2005.10.12 13:00:00 -
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Fat in catch has some very nice ore arround it and some good low sec systems for NPCing. But of all regions my favourite is querious. I have been there for ages and i know every system. I spend 90% of my time in Q and only realy pop into catch when i feel like hunting sanshas NPC's. Im not sure about defensibility because the only region ive ever defended is Querious.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.10.12 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Thrak
Hooch is crazy...
I could have told you that.
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Garramon
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Posted - 2005.10.13 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Smokey Joe Best region for NPCs without a doubt is Stain. Easy to kill/tank and lots of high end battleships, officers, and hauler spawns. Oh yea, and the loot is great too and grinds up even better.
Best 0.0 region for general quality of living is Stain. The region is huge and has NPC stations everywhere. There is always a quiet place to hunt and there is no shortage of refining and production facilities.
Best 0.0 region for mission runners is Stain. Once again, the size of the region and the number of NPC stations makes it easy to find a quiet area to do missions in.
If you are after high end ore, then any region other than Stain. 
Without a doubt, the region that is impossible to defend is Stain. We are back to the size of the region and the number of NPC production stations.
This is extremely true. I lived there for a few months, not being a member of the "claiming" faction. Never even got attacked. Made a lot of money on npcs. Good thing I don't mine, but there is tons of hauler spawns. ------------------------------------------------
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Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2005.10.13 02:23:00 -
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Period Basis get my vote, lots of Crokite and the NPC rats are the easiest to kill and tank against in the game imo.
A refining station and a factory 8 jumps from each other and plenty of systems to get lost in. Also at the very bottom of the map which normally means its kinda quiet for you to get on with your thang 
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.10.13 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: algorythm
Best proffitable space for miners: Syndicate (close to empire with yummy crockite)
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Necronom
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Posted - 2005.10.13 07:12:00 -
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try Domain, i hear they have lots of shiny veld.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.10.13 07:19:00 -
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Fade was the best all around system pre-NWO don't know about now.was like 16j to XZH and 18j to CZD and 5-6j from the clone factory to the factory station and you had high level commander spawns frequently as well as alot of bist and crok like 1j from the c4c.
But for sheer mining XZH in Cloud Ring,bist in system of the refinery and it was a dead end system as well as good spawns.
......so say I Lucian Alucard of the blood line blah blah blah blah no one really cares anymore!
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Haitchi Allamut
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Posted - 2005.10.13 17:34:00 -
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Syndicate is a really nice region. Nice Ore, Nice NPC, and most important Nice people. Its a free region, and despite popular belief, there are no pirates there. Only fluffy propaganda to keep all the nice fluffy miners out. So all your nice cuddly people, Go to syndicate at once. I cant understate this enough, there are NO evil people there. You will be greeted with a smile and a lollypop. No pirates. What so ever. Honest!
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.10.15 00:54:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 15/10/2005 01:02:10 The part of Curse we live in is great. It combines many positive aspects of empire space with the advantages of 0.0 except that you won't find good ore there. Otherwise it nice living there. (When I read proposal threads about secured alliance empires, I always think that I already live in one )
If somebody wants to give me a region I'd take Wicked Creek. Although I've been living there at a pos without a real station for some time with my mates, I liked to be there. Ok, it's enemy territory at the moment (RA), but I think with a few active pvp'ers who are willing to make it their home / defend it, it could be a really nice place to live with a corp. Good location, a few comquerable stations, a refinery, not too crowded. 
But I must admit that these are the only 0.0 reagions where I actually stayed a bit longer 
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BiONetworks
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Posted - 2005.10.15 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard Fade was the best all around system pre-NWO don't know about now.was like 16j to XZH and 18j to CZD and 5-6j from the clone factory to the factory station and you had high level commander spawns frequently as well as alot of bist and crok like 1j from the c4c.
I find fade to be most enjoyable.
crokite is in c4c...
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2005.10.16 08:43:00 -
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Feythabolis is awesome. ark/bistot and merc. a 7/10 and 8/10 complex in the same system just 2 jumps from 2-r. It's also right next to esoteria for sansha spawns. Feythabolis only problem is the refinery isn't all that convenient but that's about it.
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Skyraker7
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Posted - 2005.10.17 05:53:00 -
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I have to agree with Haitchi Allamut, Y9G in Syndicate has bucket loads of luvvly Crokite and as he says there are no Pirates, there's even a nice fluffy station to refine your ore in.
So what are ya waiting for, bring your barges, ospreys, badgers and drones to Y9G today.... while stocks last.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.10.17 06:36:00 -
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Edited by: Angelus X on 17/10/2005 06:39:23 Edited by: Angelus X on 17/10/2005 06:36:37
Originally by: Liet Traep Feythabolis only problem is the refinery isn't all that convenient but that's about it.
Which refinery are you talking about?  
-Remember that for the time being, outposts cant be destroyed, only captured, so there pretty much "part of the scenery".
Feythabolis is also (to my knowledge) the only region currently with TWO outposts. 
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.10.17 06:37:00 -
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Edited by: Angelus X on 17/10/2005 06:39:05 Edit- Double Post
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Minmatar Vengance
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Posted - 2005.10.17 12:16:00 -
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Tenerifies are without a doubt one of the best regions. It is un-inhabited (nearly) and have several constallations with untouched ore.
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.10.17 12:28:00 -
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Is crok still better than ark?
I thought zydrine price should eventually slip with the current changes to 0.4-0.1 minerals.
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Bombaman
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Posted - 2005.10.18 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Bombaman on 18/10/2005 00:34:06 Hrrm, Omist isnt too bad, a small alliance or big corp could utilize it very well, theres Bistot in the Refinery system, and most Systems are within 8j of eachother. **The post above is of my own thoughts and ideas and may not display that of my corperation or alliance, please contact me directly if you have any greif with my post ** |

MrSpock
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Posted - 2005.10.28 06:43:00 -
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Curse will forever be my favorite region.
The most challenging NPCs reside there...so much fun.
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Chris Henry
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Chee Fountain bar none....
...very important: it links north and south, key position for 0.0 travel/expanding territory.
shhh...
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Eisheth Zenunim
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Posted - 2005.10.28 16:20:00 -
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One place Yulai \o/
     
/me goes back to her cellar
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.10.28 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nimbu
Providence used to be good for the smaller corps out there. Used to be nice minerals 7+ jumps from misaba, till the pirates came that is (met my first one out there, Baun if you must know, :P , again iirc the long route round was via ghey, which was quite away and CA never bothered to venture north of HED.
WOW you are only the 3rd person (James Baker and corporal hicks being the other 2) that even remember when I was a pirate.
As fate would have it I later joined EVEM which actually protected Providence from pirates for like 8-9 months :P
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.10.28 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Shin Ra Best defencablity has to be Fountain or Cache.
Fountain is nigh impossible to defend. 
When defending was possible Fountain was the best for defending ;p
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.10.28 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: Kyguard on 28/10/2005 16:27:30 Definitely Syndiate for afk flying, when was the last time you saw a pirate in Syndicate?  --
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.28 16:34:00 -
[74]
Pure Blind 4tw, tbh  ____________________________________________
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.10.28 18:36:00 -
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Feyth now proably, cause it has 2 outposts
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