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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
342
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Posted - 2013.05.13 17:57:00 -
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So... I was looking at pictures of the new model for the Apocalypse (oh god sexy) and someone sent me a screenshot the Apocalypse Imperial Issue. (Dear Lawd.) How sad it was, I thought, that I would probably never get to see one in space, let alone fly one.
However, this got me thinking.
The Apoc Imperial Issue has only been handed out in relation to the old live events. Very few were given out, and as a result they have become some kind of mythical, legendary beast amongst players, whispered about with a hint of awe in their tone, especially during the dark days when live events no longer existed.
However, now is a different time. I think it is soon time to start rewarding legendary players and legendary efforts with legendary ships such as the Apoc Imperial Issue, along with their other racial counterparts.
Now, I am by no means proposing that they be given away like candy to just anyone that participates in live events. A group or individual should have to do something meaningful and special for one. I'll leave it up to the dev team to decide what that entails, but I would like to open up the subject for discussion.
I am not going to lie, my ambition is to land one of those Golden Glory Boats and achieve Imperial War Hero status so that my character is immortalized in EVE history. I have high hopes! DO NOT CRUSH THEM. |

Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
951
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Posted - 2013.05.13 18:25:00 -
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Will sell my firstborn for an opportunity at a Fedthron*.
*Though my heart is set on a CONCORD Special OPS Battleship I know I'll never get my hands on one =( Enjoy your gaming.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
264
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Posted - 2013.05.14 00:51:00 -
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The issue is very touchy, due to this sort of thing being a scandel with live events in the past being used simply to hand out stuff to friends. Obviously this was years ago and the current live events team was uninvolved. But it's still a huge issue, especially if anything rare gets handed out. What makes one persons contribution any more than someone elses. Especially in a RP type enviroment. How do you score RP? What if that person over there is RP'ing someone who is neutral to this event, so does nothing just observes, does that make them a better or worse contributor to the guy that just wants to gank the shiny ship so organises an attack fleet. |

Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
344
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Posted - 2013.05.14 02:05:00 -
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Well, if not through Live Events, how can these special ships be distributed? Are they never going to be used again? |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
264
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Posted - 2013.05.14 02:35:00 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Well, if not through Live Events, how can these special ships be distributed? Are they never going to be used again? Well, I'm not 'against' the idea of things getting handing out. But there needs to be a very very transparent process that doesn't only reward certain styles of play over all the others if things are going to be given out. And personally I can't think of how to design such a process, even if I was only giving out T1 Battle Cruisers & Cruisers without seeming unfair or biased sometimes. |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
417
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Posted - 2013.05.14 05:42:00 -
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Currently, this sort of thing bugs me a tiny bit, due to the heavy use by Marketing of Incarna-related liveried ships. My character is Ishukone-oriented, solidly in the liberal block, but at present has no avenue to showing Ishukone livery or even wear the uniform, as the special edition Ishu Watch shirts are male-only. Derp? |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1131
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Posted - 2013.05.14 07:06:00 -
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Im not sure about that, how would you judge one deserves it, such stuff would create so much drama, don't think Team Illuminati would like to have drama around them. |

Grideris
Fleet Coordination Commission Fleet Coordination Coalition
642
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Posted - 2013.05.14 07:06:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Will sell my firstborn for an opportunity at a Fedthron*.
*Though my heart is set on a CONCORD Special OPS Battleship I know I'll never get my hands on one =(
I second this post. Both parts :(
On the main point of the topic, I think it's going to be very difficult to justify handing out the existing rare ships. However, I think it's more likely that we might see them hand out faction-skinned regular ships as they just look different, but have the same stats as the T1 version (unlike the Empire Battleships which have "better" stats than their faction counterparts). Not to mention that it doesn't tread on the toes of those few players that do own the "Empire" Battleships already. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Jassmin Joy
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
125
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Posted - 2013.05.14 08:27:00 -
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The rare special edition ships should never be handed out again, There's only one fedthron in exsistance and while i'd murder my granny for a chance at flying it, Handing them out again after so long wouldent be fair on the collectors who've paid unimaginable amounts of isk, the tribal tempest and a imperial (geddon?) i think it was both recently sold for 2trillion isk...each. |

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
451
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:44:00 -
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The live events should be their own reward and people should contribute because it is fun for them.
At least I don't need or want any sort of other reward than the enjoyment I get out of them and I think starting to reward people would encourage the wrong sort of participation anyway.
Of course, that does not mean there could not be a live event that has something to do with special ships and handing them out, but in my opinion they should not a reward to visible people, but something where everyone could have the chance of earning one.
(Not that I'd turn it down if the Minnie powers that be wanted to give me an awesome ship. Even if the way I've talked to / about them lately, they are likelier to give me a court-martial, tbh.) |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
762
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:45:00 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Well, if not through Live Events, how can these special ships be distributed? Are they never going to be used again?
CCP is churning out new faction ships anyway on a yearly basis. Arn't Sarum Magnates and etc. enough to suit your needs? No need to reissue existing old oddities.
You might as well ask CCP to reissue ALL the Alliance Tournament ships for Live Events as well (but hey, that wouldn't be fair for the original winners of the tournaments right? Neither for the collectors who paid 60 billion ISKs to acquire an individual ship!) |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
268
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:48:00 -
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Jassmin Joy wrote:The rare special edition ships should never be handed out again, There's only one fedthron in exsistance and while i'd murder my granny for a chance at flying it, Handing them out again after so long wouldent be fair on the collectors who've paid unimaginable amounts of isk, the tribal tempest and a imperial (geddon?) i think it was both recently sold for 2trillion isk...each. Thats market speculation. Other than the AT ships, I don't believe CCP has ever said something is limited edition. So it really is at buyer risk to speculate that something won't be handed out again at a later date. CCP have said so themselves recently that they won't limit themselves simply because players buy & sell rare items. Only where CCP has declared something to be Limited, rather than Special edition. But.... as above, I just can't see how you could judge who is worth giving a ship to and who isn't. Even for the simple T1 stuff how do you decide who is entitled & who isn't. |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
762
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:05:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Jassmin Joy wrote:The rare special edition ships should never be handed out again, There's only one fedthron in exsistance and while i'd murder my granny for a chance at flying it, Handing them out again after so long wouldent be fair on the collectors who've paid unimaginable amounts of isk, the tribal tempest and a imperial (geddon?) i think it was both recently sold for 2trillion isk...each. Thats market speculation. Other than the AT ships, I don't believe CCP has ever said something is limited edition. So it really is at buyer risk to speculate that something won't be handed out again at a later date. CCP have said so themselves recently that they won't limit themselves simply because players buy & sell rare items. Only where CCP has declared something to be Limited, rather than Special edition. But.... as above, I just can't see how you could judge who is worth giving a ship to and who isn't. Even for the simple T1 stuff how do you decide who is entitled & who isn't.
Once again, all this issue could be resolved by CCP providing ships with different skins. There is a way to respect "Collecting" as a profession and those who are delve in it, while suiting the other constituents who want something with the words "Imperial or Federate" on them. Recent addition of "Sarum Magnates" and etc, is a good way.
There is absolutely no need to anger hundreds of those who spent countless hours and billions to trillions of ISK in the name of collecting, only to see them getting devalued by participating in a Live Event for 5 minutes.
On the other hand, I support handing out NEW SUPER RARE SHIPS for those who have played an integral part in the Live Events. A good example would be something like Grideris leading an entire invasion force to **** and pillage Sanshas in Jove Space) and being bestowed with a truly unique Jovian Batlteship. |

Zaxix
Long Jump.
87
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:12:00 -
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The reward for live events should be the experience of the event and perhaps access (temporary or permanent) to some sort of related content.
Personally, I didn't resub for the purpose of more ISK and loot. You can get plenty of that stuff all over EVE. What I want out of live events is a memorable experience beyond the "we shot stuff, we looted stuff" experience. The CCP dev fleets were interesting and, for the one I managed to attend, fun and silly. But the promise of dev corpses and PLEX or other valuable items just draws in huge fleets that turn the experience into something akin to the mad scramble of children when a pinata breaks open.
I'd like to see something like (total bias here) you participate in the Path to Jove Space event and achieve the objective within the parameters of the event. As a reward, CCP reactivates one of the Jove agents and you can use said agent for X amount of time to gain standing (maybe LP, but I'd like to get away from the loot angle). Or, you get docking rights in Jove space. Or you get an "escalation" and move on to further content. If you don't complete the initial event in time, no escalations. The reward is the extra content.
Anyway, thats my two cents! ***Frog Forever***
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1132
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:33:00 -
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But in the end.
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:The live events should be their own reward and people should contribute because it is fun for them.
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
418
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:30:00 -
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An easy system to use? Would be for players involved in events to be awarded LP and standing appropriate to their actions. It might require some after-action review by the involved GM storytellers, but it'd use existing systems to recognize action. It could very easily be calibrated to existing mission formats -- so smaller sessions have rewards equal to an L3 or L4 mission, larger ones calibrate to an L5, and fleet fights like the recent Fed-Republic brawl...? |

Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
41
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Posted - 2013.05.15 12:23:00 -
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Or maybe just being involved in something that lets you play a part in the story of EVE could be reward enough. O. Rundle The Synenose Accord Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated. |

Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems The Fourth District
168
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Posted - 2013.05.15 14:57:00 -
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How about if some of the rare player ships started to show up more frequently as actor ships? For example, if a high level Amarrian and his/her personal squadron are in space, they might be flying Apocalypse Imperial Issues for the event.
This provides the opportunity for these ships to be seen in space (as part of the event), but does not displace the value of the ships that made there way into the capsuleer market. Lai Dai Infinity Systems |

Rodj Blake
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1363
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:51:00 -
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If nothing else, I'd quite like to see them used by actors in events.
After we once had to escort an Impoc to Amarr, maybe at some point we'll get a chance to escort it back out again. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
270
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Posted - 2013.05.15 21:46:00 -
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Except then Goons show up just to suicide gank the shiny ship. And there is no way to stop a suicide gank other than 'don't be there'. Which means if the Devs aren't there because they are speed warping/cyno'ing/etc we don't get to see the event. For proof of Goons gank, I refer you to the Tribal Council live event with Tempest Tribal Issues. |

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
454
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Posted - 2013.05.15 21:54:00 -
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I could see this sort of thing hurting the RP community.
We'd see people joining just for loots and more people attempting to showboat events and interactions. Nor would I want to see the **** storm that happens when someone gets a rare ship and others feel slighted or just have an OOC/IC axe to grind.
Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
270
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:01:00 -
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The LP option seems the most viable option. As then you can award everyone present at a live event (even by random chance) the same amount of LP, just to different factions based on actions (Need at least 3 pre-determined factions, one for Pro Devs, one for Anti Devs, and a third for neutral people). Then there is no favouritism, nor unique loot since it's all going to already exist in the LP stores. But if a person attends a lot of live events, the LP will add up over time to be able to purchase things. I wouldn't mind live events having a bit more draw to get involved. They are effectively missions. And missions do have LP rewards.
But the rare shiny ships hurt events, if given out as loot, or even if Devs just fly them everyone wants a shiny KM. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1528

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Posted - 2013.05.20 09:55:00 -
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Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto 
Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc. CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
274
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:41:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto  Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc. On that note, though not really live events, but I hope you all at CCP do take note of how much people actually want an in game way to get hold of such ships. Live Events not being the right way obviously :). But a way is highly desired. (& not P2W either) |

Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
133
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:57:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:...I hope you all at CCP do take note of how much people actually want an in game way to get hold of such ships.
You're kinda missing the point of their rarity. |

Karmilla Strife
Utopian Research I.E.L.
75
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:48:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:...I hope you all at CCP do take note of how much people actually want an in game way to get hold of such ships. You're kinda missing the point of their rarity.
Titans used to be rare too. |
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CCP Falcon
2702

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Posted - 2013.05.21 01:38:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto  Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.
I thought I'd already responded to this thread but clearly forgot to.
CCP Goliath says it all 
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
536
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Posted - 2013.05.21 08:41:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto  Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc. I thought I'd already responded to this thread but clearly forgot to. CCP Goliath says it all 
Could... YOU... the devs i mean... use the shiney of shinies? there are very few ships i havent seen, would love to put a volly into Impoc 
The ships in themselfs would make the event lol - Nulla Curas |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1531

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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:22:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto  Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc. I thought I'd already responded to this thread but clearly forgot to. CCP Goliath says it all  Could... YOU... the devs i mean... use the shiney of shinies? there are very few ships i havent seen, would love to put a volly into Impoc  The ships in themselfs would make the event lol
I fly them when I'm messing around on Sisi sometimes. We thought about using them in the dev caravans once but felt it was distasteful to the collectors. CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Arkenai Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
1580
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:33:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto  Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc. Unique ships shouldn't be brought back, I agree. But could we have something else? Nothing like good equipment, mostly just vanity items. For example, when an FW faction takes an entire warzone, their people get a medal. That kind of thing is nice - it's just like an 'I was there' thing. Sig'd.-áGallente FW best FW. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
276
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:41:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Could... YOU... the devs i mean... use the shiney of shinies? there are very few ships i havent seen, would love to put a volly into Impoc  The ships in themselfs would make the event lol That ruins events as much as anything else. Devs flew TTI in an event. Goons showed up en mass to gank it just because it was a TTI. And since it was Highsec, there was literally no way to defend against a mass gank on overwhelming force. That will happen any event a shiny rare ship comes out at, people will target it just to be on the killmail, with no thought to who is in it. |

baltec1
Bat Country
6690
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:33:00 -
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As perhaps the biggest fan of the mega hull I would insist that the Fedathron never have any sisters added. |

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
261
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:42:00 -
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I had a thought about this, relating to the EVE 10 Years Collector's Edition, and the golden pod & related implant contained in it.
Sure, handing out Imperial Apocalypses or Federal Megathrons isn't a good idea, however!
What about an implant that makes a normal (or Navy) Apocalypse look like the Imperial Apocalypse ?
The collector's edition golden pod implant turns an ordinary capsule into a gold one.
So why not a special live event reward implant, to turn a Navy issue ship into one that looks like a rarer issue one ?
Wouldn't devalue the existing ones, but would allow those ship models to be seen in space, and encourage people to get involved in things. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
448
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Posted - 2013.06.01 08:16:00 -
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Will sell soul for implant, that would make normal (or Navy) Apocalypse look like Hello Kitty Apocalypse |

Heinel Coventina
University of Caille Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.06.01 18:14:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Could... YOU... the devs i mean... use the shiney of shinies? there are very few ships i havent seen, would love to put a volly into Impoc  The ships in themselfs would make the event lol That ruins events as much as anything else. Devs flew TTI in an event. Goons showed up en mass to gank it just because it was a TTI. And since it was Highsec, there was literally no way to defend against a mass gank on overwhelming force. That will happen any event a shiny rare ship comes out at, people will target it just to be on the killmail, with no thought to who is in it.
Maybe we'll finally have a convoy that fails, then? |

Kyoko Sakoda
Sakoda Security Services
107
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:01:00 -
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One of the best events I've ever witnessed was a pair of traders (maybe Thukker?) in and around the Amamake area auctioning goods that had no gameplay value but had very interesting IDs and icons, such as heads in jars, and other crazy tokens. |

Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
144
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Posted - 2013.06.02 02:47:00 -
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Heinel Coventina wrote:Maybe we'll finally have a convoy that fails, then? Yes. Every single one. :P No one likes escort missions in other games, they aren't any better in Eve. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
288
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Posted - 2013.06.02 05:06:00 -
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Svetlana Scarlet wrote:Heinel Coventina wrote:Maybe we'll finally have a convoy that fails, then? Yes. Every single one. :P No one likes escort missions in other games, they aren't any better in Eve. Snipehunt... Fail. In a legit manner. So..... Convoys aren't scripted success, but nice try. However shiny ships getting ganked because the Devs are attempting to make it an event, rather than cloaked blockade runners leaving at an undisclosed time from an undisclosed location to get the cargo through, simply isn't fun. And will rapidly kill that type of live event for anyone except gankers. |

cerbus
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
90
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:35:00 -
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~800+ unreleased ships in the client files... just say'n :| Ship Customisation Survey - www.tinyurl.com/cppcsurvey |

Aggrofighter
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:47:00 -
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I heard this "How can you judge if some1 deserves a reward, and some1 not" often.
There's an easy way... lets say (for example): Event Starts (System is about to collapse maybe) and every player is getting a Mission that leads them to this Event.
The First Mission completes when ariving at the Event-System. After that, there are certain ways to join the event. Mining Missions, Security Missions, Courier Missions and so on...
So that for everybody there's something he can do.
The Missions could be all Event-Specific (with Storyline behind it and stuff!) and the more you do, to prevent the system from collapsing, the higher your reward will be.
Something like that? What do you think about it? |

Jack Pharris
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
1
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Posted - 2013.07.20 19:18:00 -
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It would be interesting to bet Decorations for completing live event tasks.
(I seem to remember that might be one of the awards for the currently site-seeing events yes?) |

Shirley Serious
Gutter Press
42
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Posted - 2013.09.26 05:41:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto  Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3656860#post3656860
Gold Magnates for an out of game lottery ?
But nothing for ingame actions ?
OK. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1206
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Posted - 2013.09.26 08:11:00 -
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Shirley Serious wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto  Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3656860#post3656860
Gold Magnates for an out of game lottery ? But nothing for ingame actions ? OK. In a lotery where in most cases only the one with most ISK comited win anyway
We also have:
CCP Navigator wrote:CCP Unifex is mad. He is so mad that he is assembling a team of pilots throughout the Polaris system to ship up in some cool ships and escort three Marshal Class CONCORD SWAT battleships on a roam through lowsec. GÇÿGatecamps be damnedGÇÖ, he said as he fitted more and more weapons. GÇÿNo one is getting out aliveGÇÖ.
Pilots may want to avoid Low Sec for the next few days and let this terror pass before, as he puts it, GÇÿAll hell breaks looseGÇÖ. We will try and give you guys a heads up when the fleet is expected to hit. Bring an army. Bring ten armies! This is going to get rough.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
385
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Posted - 2013.09.26 09:55:00 -
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Dev roams are very old news. They do them now and then and they aren't really connected with Live Events at all. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1206
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Posted - 2013.09.26 10:17:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Dev roams are very old news. They do them now and then and they aren't really connected with Live Events at all. I have no problem the doing dev roam just don't realy like them using "escort three Marshal Class CONCORD SWAT battleships" in it. |

Rainbow Dash
The Scope Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:27:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote: Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.
Oh, the irony |

Daenna Chrysi
Omega Foundry Unit Shadows Of Betrayal
65
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:27:00 -
[47] - Quote
CCP Goliath wrote:Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto  Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.
So the "3x Guardian Vexor" is just a typo on the somer blink page? http://cogdev.net/blink/?act=celebration
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
569
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:28:00 -
[48] - Quote
CCP Goliath wrote:Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto  Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.
Whoops  G££ <= Me |

handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
110
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Posted - 2013.09.26 17:19:00 -
[49] - Quote
CCP Goliath wrote:Hehe, how fitting that I should read this after posting about favouritism in a different thread. My personal take on it is this (note, this is not something we have discussed within the team): Events should be their own reward, but there are certain events that render a large impact on people and for these I do think there should be some kind of memento. An Imperial Apoc is NOT a mememto  Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.
Didn't want that trustworthyness anyway. Baddest poster ever |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
387
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Posted - 2013.09.27 00:16:00 -
[50] - Quote
Considering he was talking purely about live events, not CCP in every aspect..... it's irrelevant. Because it's a different area. Learn to read with context people. |

Lulu McMullin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.09.27 03:04:00 -
[51] - Quote
Nevyn Auscent wrote:Considering he was talking purely about live events, not CCP in every aspect..... it's irrelevant. Because it's a different area. Learn to read with context people.
In that context it makes this worse. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
388
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Posted - 2013.09.27 03:30:00 -
[52] - Quote
Lulu McMullin wrote:
In that context it makes this worse.
How does it make it worse? All they were quoting was CCP saying they would not give away rare ships of any sort as part of Live Events in-game. And trying to apply it out of context to CCP as a whole.
Where as CCP as a whole have said they will re-release special edition ships & items as appropriate for promotions & other such non live events. Just not limited edition ships/items. |

Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
46
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:49:00 -
[53] - Quote
Yeah, it's much safer to give unique items to people who already hugely profit off their (admittedly slick and fun) web site and promise to never give anything to everybody who actually does anything IN GAME.
I see that giving out stuff during an event is an issue for everybody who cannot attend, but at least everybody has a chance to do so without giving ISK to someone else. |

Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
46
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:56:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:I fly them when I'm messing around on Sisi sometimes. We thought about using them in the dev caravans once but felt it was distasteful to the collectors.
Well, frankly, screw them. I'd go with the Spock theme "the needs of the many outweigh the distaste of one collector". Especially if it's just a dev caravan that I consider purely OOC.
If it's something with an actual story like the TTI voyage the presence of the ship needs to have a justification (and I fully support the use of dev resists if the story behind it requires its survival).
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