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Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
878
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:28:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote:Can I put this in my bio Sure, if you want. Oh god. |

Mathrin
Synthetic Solution Synthetic Systems
84
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:05:00 -
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CCP Solomon wrote:
- Low sec population on the increase.
- Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
- Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
- People still finding a reason to moan.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Plus one like for you good sir.... |

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1744
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:16:00 -
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CCP Solomon wrote:
- Low sec population on the increase.
- Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
- Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
- People still finding a reason to moan.
Nothing to see here, move along.
with population you mean alts in stabbed T1 frigs and cloaks or the 10% who are not alts in stabbed T1 ships and cloaks? eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1375
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:17:00 -
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I fail to understand how you are classifying those who are gatecamping all the time as "bears" Bad PVP'rs maybe? |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2759
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:51:00 -
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A general rule of lowsec is that the only acceptable increase in population is that of targets, not those looking for targets. |

Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1046
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:03:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:A general rule of lowsec is that the only acceptable increase in population is that of targets who do not fit their T1 ships with cloaks & MWDs or warp stabs, or anything else that might help them do what they want without getting caught, not those looking for targets. FTFY
E: Also, no cloaky fags farming in cov ops either because low-sec is only for industrials idiotically blundering into gate camps and gate campers. CCP has no sense of humour. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1961
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:09:00 -
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Bit of a derpy thread, but I'll straighten out the misinformation at least.
Activate MJD, cloak, reappear 100km away *does* work. You don't even need the tech 2 cloak for it since there's no reliance on being at 75% speed to warp.
Enjoy :)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Kangaax
BlueWaffe
4
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:24:00 -
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NameWasTakenAlready wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Talking about gatecamps, how well does hopping 100km away with a microjumpdrive and then warping off work against gatecamps? Disruptors don't block the microjump drive. If you can delay a scram for 10 seconds you can slip camps super easily with it. I actually need to try cloak + micro jump one of these days, as battleships are the only class of ship that can run into issues with cloak +MWD due to long align times on armor battleships. In theory the addition of the micro jump drive gave battleships a reliable way to slip gate camps. Lord knows every other class of ship has a way already. Which brings me back to my confusion. Cloak MWD is like 99.9% effective on any battle cruiser or smaller, so how do these camps still exist.
Just quoting to add that orcas have the same issue as battleships regarding cloak/MWD. I'm almost sad i can't fit a MJD on it, but it wouldn't have the grid anyway |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:38:00 -
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Kangaax wrote:
Just quoting to add that orcas have the same issue as battleships regarding cloak/MWD. I'm almost sad i can't fit a MJD on it, but it wouldn't have the grid anyway
I have heard that an Orca can pull off the cloak mwd trick with only a very short target window on the end. Its something I would like to try out, but orca training/buying is really not on my todo list.
Make yours as nimble as possible and fit the biggest mwd you can and try the cloak trick. If you need someone to try and lock you convo me, it is an experiment that I have wanted to do for quite sometime.
-áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:43:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Bit of a derpy thread, but I'll straighten out the misinformation at least.
Activate MJD, cloak, reappear 100km away *does* work. You don't even need the tech 2 cloak for it since there's no reliance on being at 75% speed to warp.
Enjoy :) You must walk right through gate camps with that set up! You should run Gonditsa. -áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |

NameWasTakenAlready
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:50:00 -
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darmwand wrote:One thing to keep in mind is that what may look like a gate camp to you might very well just be a roaming gang waiting to jump to the next system.
I already addressed this point. Anyways my issue isn't that they're catching me but that I find their presence annoying. But I guess I shouldn't complain. At least there's more people in lowsec. I'll keep studying their behavior til I can find a way to strike out at them. I mean I live out there so I have a lot of time to watch them. And for those who don't understand why I call these guys bears...they actively avoid actual fights and risk. That is like the definition of care bear. Anywho I guess just lock thread. Maybe in a week I'll have some funny kill mails. |

Obvious Cyno
The Scope Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:52:00 -
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Perhaps to outside eyes they are gatecamps, but actually they are roaming gangs holding on a gate. I mean I've literally never heard of a stiletto in a gatecamp. Unless they're only firing on -10s or something. Not everything is always as it seems. |

Masuka Taredi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:59:00 -
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Why don't you assemble a fleet of like minded people and take the fight to these campers then if you want to destroy them so much? Could be fun for both sides. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
888
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:04:00 -
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NameWasTakenAlready wrote:And for those who don't understand why I call these guys bears...they actively avoid actual fights and risk.
Then 99% of the game are "carebears" and the definition loses all meaning.
I can change the definition of words too, like "pumpkin" now means banana, but then I'll look like an idiot too. |

NameWasTakenAlready
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:15:00 -
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Masuka Taredi wrote:Why don't you assemble a fleet of like minded people and take the fight to these campers then if you want to destroy them so much? Could be fun for both sides.
Already working on it... heh heh
And of course they're care bears. They take less risk than fw farmers or ninja gankers. They're as active as an ice miner. I realize traditional care bear definition is pve, but I have more respect for people who run ventures in lowsec than these guys. I full well realize its my own perception, but they're lower than ice miners to me. Lol |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7799
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:18:00 -
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NameWasTakenAlready wrote:And for those who don't understand why I call these guys bears...they actively avoid actual fights and risk
yes well when everyone fights with "honor" or whatever those of us who don't tend to win mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7799
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:22:00 -
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for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NN30YMzja6Y#t=178s mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |

Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
68
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:28:00 -
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Andski wrote:NameWasTakenAlready wrote:And for those who don't understand why I call these guys bears...they actively avoid actual fights and risk yes well when everyone fights with "honor" or whatever those of us who don't tend to win
HONOR, what you hope your ennemies have...because it will help you crush them. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2761
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:42:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:A general rule of lowsec is that the only acceptable increase in population is that of targets who do not fit their T1 ships with cloaks & MWDs or warp stabs, or anything else that might help them do what they want without getting caught, not those looking for targets. FTFY E: Also, no cloaky fags farming in cov ops either because low-sec is only for industrials idiotically blundering into gate camps and gate campers.
NOOOOO YOU ARE TO DIE IN MY CAMP!!! MY STATS!!!! BECAUSE OF WCS!!! NERF HIGHSEC!!!1!!! MARSHA MARSHA MARSHA!! ALL CAPS!!!
Wait, we can use bombs in lowsec?
Hmmmmmmm |

Sentamon
930
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:54:00 -
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NameWasTakenAlready wrote: Wtf is going on here? Where are these people coming from? How in the world is this profitable or fun for them? When I'm out getting some decent solo fights these guys are just manning these camps 24/7 and not even catching a fraction of their targets.
Maybe they're pirates looking for extremely valuable kills, and not braindead gategankers that shoot everything that moves? ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
468
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:56:00 -
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I like campers. They don't ask for much and they provide challenge and entertainment. I bet CCP likes them to. Maybe the jump in radius should be reduced to 10000 since mwd/cloak is too effective. And all the empires be separated by lowsec strips. -áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1925
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:03:00 -
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CCP Solomon wrote:
- Low sec population on the increase.
- Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
- Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
- People still finding a reason to moan.
Nothing to see here, move along. Well, at least you got one out of four right. A significant improvement for CCP if I may say so myself. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
693
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:03:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Talking about gatecamps, how well does hopping 100km away with a microjumpdrive and then warping off work against gatecamps? works good
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Kult Altol
Biohazard.
251
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:08:00 -
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I actually read this whole thread.....and I don't like OP. if you head to 4chan they always call this type of OP a . . .
I'm one of those carebears that just recently started pvp, and yes we sit on gates for various reasons. But it's never officially a "gate camp" An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point I Know Right
115
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:12:00 -
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CCP Solomon wrote:
- Low sec population on the increase.
- Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
- Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
- People still finding a reason to moan.
Nothing to see here, move along. Yup... that made my day
On another note, come down to Black Rise for a day or two. We'll make you welcome while you stay!  "I swear there are more people complaining over "nullsecers complaining" then actual nullsec people complaining." |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
73
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:19:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:I actually read this whole thread.....and I don't like OP. if you head to 4chan they always call this type of OP a . . .
I'm one of those carebears that just recently started pvp, and yes we sit on gates for various reasons. But it's never officially a "gate camp" And have you trained your targeting skills like a good boy? All the weaponry and ship skills mean jack if you can't lock a big slow ship before it warps away  |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1859
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:28:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:A general rule of lowsec is that the only acceptable increase in population is that of targets, not those looking for targets. Then obviously you need to kill anyone entering low sec who is looking for targets. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:39:00 -
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NameWasTakenAlready wrote: Let me put it this way: when I see stupid players, I want to destroy them. I target miners for this reason, but miners are not armed. Its time to do something a bit more challenging. I regard these players as an enemy to eve due to their stupidity, but if I want to strike back at them I need to understand them.
So you need help from us to strike back at them for slighting you in some way by being stupid?
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