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NameWasTakenAlready
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:28:00 -
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Hey all. I'm a long time resident of lowsec. I've been making the vast majority of my isk doing exploration out there for over two years. That money goes towards ships I throw away doing solo PvP. Lately, I'm noticing a trend in lowsec.
Gate camps are getting a lot more common. I've started seeing them *everywhere*. Gate camps were always a thing and lowsec was no exception, but whereas my previous route I might run into one camp, I'm seeing two or even three guaranteed camps in the span of a 9 system run. Often these are from unaffiliated corps.
Fascinated and mildly annoyed by this, I started researching many of these corps. A lot of them sit in one area camping, and don't do much else. I'm always flying covert and I *never* see these guys ratting or doing missions. And they can't be doing much exploration cause my profit margins haven't changed much. But their killboards don't show any solo PvP or small gang stuff. Just blobs and camps.
But the worst thing about it is how *bad* they are at it. Like, I understand camps are easy to slip through; I make my living doing it. But when I can throw a couple million loot into a destroyer and run 3 camps without a cloak, when 2 of them have stilettos...
Wtf is going on here? Where are these people coming from? How in the world is this profitable or fun for them? When I'm out getting some decent solo fights these guys are just manning these camps 24/7 and not even catching a fraction of their targets.
I mean are they actually making enough isk to get by just scooping from the idiots they kill? I understand their costs are low since they avoid any actual fights. Still, lowsec seems a lot more active these days. I'm seeing activity far away from the fw front. But really, how is this even fun and why are these guys everywhere now? Its as though these guys are somehow made up of the worst of care bear miners and "leet pvpers". |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1921
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:33:00 -
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It's not really about profit most of the time. I was a pirate (thankfully not for long) when piracy didn't entail caps on standby and most of our kills were Chinese macro haulers. You shoot what you can get and don't think about it all that much. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |

Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
125
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:36:00 -
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NameWasTakenAlready wrote: Gate camps are getting a lot more common. ...2 of them have stilettos... Granted it's been a long time since I've done any gatecamping in lowsec, but I was under the impression that Interceptors + Gate Guns is STILL a bad combo. Possibly why it's so easy to slip past them?
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NameWasTakenAlready
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:40:00 -
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True. But remote sensor boosted nado camps have no problems instalocking. Yet still so many of these camps can't catch ****. Its not like I'm flying ships that are hard to catch. I fly **** with like 3-4 second align time and never get scrammed. I mean when I'm pveing I run something covert but I'm running these gates in armor tanked wolves and enyos without getting slammed. Often. Its not like I'm complaining that they can't catch me, but the fact that people this stupid exists kind of offends me. Its why I suicide gank and bump ice miners. But these guys are honestly below ice miners in my eyes. |

Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
125
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:48:00 -
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*shrug* Guess you are just a hardcore badass and intrinsically better then they are in every way. Congrats? Maybe you should convo them and give them pointers or something? Hopefully the point of your post was not simply to stroke yourself on the forums. |

Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
867
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:48:00 -
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Are you sure they're camping the gate and not just waiting for intel on the other side? Oh god. |

Zappity
Kurved Space
77
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:53:00 -
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Stiletto + gate guns doesn't work well.
I rarely bump into non-FW gate camps apart from the usual entry systems. Are the blobs FW or pirate? If they are FW they might be specifically targeting enemy factions. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1719
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:01:00 -
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Talking about gatecamps, how well does hopping 100km away with a microjumpdrive and then warping off work against gatecamps? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
465
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:02:00 -
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I was living in lowsec behind the Eve Gate for a long time and I noticed the same thing; lots more players, some doing lowsec indi others camping.
It started to get crowded after Delve blew up last summer. I always just assumed that all the new faces were refugees. Although people that I talked to there claimed this wasn't the case. And I did indeed see some strange gate camps, they were setup more like null camps, but the pilots were not that good; no idea how to decloak someone and low DPS. They did manage to catch a procurer that I brought in to test the tank out.
Maybe they are alts of miners or other highsec residents. -áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |

NameWasTakenAlready
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:07:00 -
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Not to stroke my epeen. they should be killing me but they're not. And they are pirates cause they're in fringe regions far from fw. And I know they're camps because I'll see them 3-5 hours later on my return trip. They havent budged.
Let me put it this way: when I see stupid players, I want to destroy them. I target miners for this reason, but miners are not armed. Its time to do something a bit more challenging. I regard these players as an enemy to eve due to their stupidity, but if I want to strike back at them I need to understand them. They never pve. They never roam. Or if they do its all of about 5 jumps with 40 people. I'm just honestly confused about what kind of player chooses this play style. As a largely solo player my attack options are highly limited here. I have infiltration alts, and a good deal of experience using guerilla warfare in high sec wars and in wspace, but these camps I see more and more often might as well be bots for all their activity. |

Robyn Minaj
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:10:00 -
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Or maybe, all the "Highsec guys, please explore lowsec" statements made them to Gatecamp in Lowsec. Nearly everyone wanted that, during CSM voting at least. |

Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
867
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:12:00 -
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Well you're in an NPC corp so that's a good start. You could probably put some rat resistances info in your bio and maybe fly a Gnosis. I think that would be enough to encourage them to shoot you. Oh god. |

NameWasTakenAlready
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:14:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Talking about gatecamps, how well does hopping 100km away with a microjumpdrive and then warping off work against gatecamps?
Disruptors don't block the microjump drive. If you can delay a scram for 10 seconds you can slip camps super easily with it. I actually need to try cloak + micro jump one of these days, as battleships are the only class of ship that can run into issues with cloak +MWD due to long align times on armor battleships. In theory the addition of the micro jump drive gave battleships a reliable way to slip gate camps. Lord knows every other class of ship has a way already. Which brings me back to my confusion. Cloak MWD is like 99.9% effective on any battle cruiser or smaller, so how do these camps still exist. |

NameWasTakenAlready
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:17:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Well you're in an NPC corp so that's a good start. You could probably put some rat resistances info in your bio and maybe fly a Gnosis. I think that would be enough to encourage them to shoot you.
Cause announcing your plans to **** with somebody on the forums on your main is a great idea. Next time I'm planning an infiltration I'll go ahead and post on the forums who my targets are. |

Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
868
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:19:00 -
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What are you talking about? Have you ever fought a gate camp solo before? Oh god. |

NameWasTakenAlready
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:22:00 -
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Never mind. Thought it was a poke about an npc Corp forum alt. My bad. 
Unfortunately my main is a bit too...colorful for such a trick to work. |

Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
868
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:23:00 -
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Fair enough. Oh god. |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
465
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Posted - 2013.05.14 11:08:00 -
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NameWasTakenAlready wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Talking about gatecamps, how well does hopping 100km away with a microjumpdrive and then warping off work against gatecamps? Disruptors don't block the microjump drive. If you can delay a scram for 10 seconds you can slip camps super easily with it. I actually need to try cloak + micro jump one of these days, as battleships are the only class of ship that can run into issues with cloak +MWD due to long align times on armor battleships. In theory the addition of the micro jump drive gave battleships a reliable way to slip gate camps. Lord knows every other class of ship has a way already. Which brings me back to my confusion. Cloak MWD is like 99.9% effective on any battle cruiser or smaller, so how do these camps still exist.
Warp disruptors are a bit more common at gate camps; but there are guys that fit a scram, MWD Brutix being a notable example. A target breaker and heavy neuts will take care of most tackle and allow you to escape with the MJD. However that's a lot of button pushing in a stressful situation with only little time.
I'm pretty certain that you cannot cloak while the MJD is spinning up. I experimented a bit with the idea of using the MJD to run camps and ultimately went back to the 100mn MWD/cloak with a couple of inertia stabs. I do fit the target breaker, you can get it to go off before the cloak disables it. This creates a bright flash that may cause the campers to pause if they haven't seen one, more likely however is that it makes their decloaking attempts more accurate =-P
-áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |

Akali Kuvakei
Eclipse Navy. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12
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Posted - 2013.05.14 11:19:00 -
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I love you pub lords who post with forum alts and claim to be 7337 pewee pee. Man up stop hiding behind alts. I never have and never will . You know my name come find me. Hint I'm in delve and PVP errrrday. |

Seven Koskanaiken
Nothing Is True Everything Is Permitted
164
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Posted - 2013.05.14 11:28:00 -
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For people who camp the same gate day in day out, just add them to your contact list and see if they are online before jumping that gate. There's a guy who has done nothing but camp the same gate in Eszur for 3 years. |

Seven Koskanaiken
Nothing Is True Everything Is Permitted
165
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Posted - 2013.05.14 11:37:00 -
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NameWasTakenAlready wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Talking about gatecamps, how well does hopping 100km away with a microjumpdrive and then warping off work against gatecamps? Disruptors don't block the microjump drive. If you can delay a scram for 10 seconds you can slip camps super easily with it. I actually need to try cloak + micro jump one of these days, as battleships are the only class of ship that can run into issues with cloak +MWD due to long align times on armor battleships. In theory the addition of the micro jump drive gave battleships a reliable way to slip gate camps. Lord knows every other class of ship has a way already. Which brings me back to my confusion. Cloak MWD is like 99.9% effective on any battle cruiser or smaller, so how do these camps still exist.
Welllll the other day I did the guristas arc and fitted a cloak to get out of null gatecamps, then got all the way back one jump from high sec and had my dramiel blown up because I forgot I fitted a cloak since I use them so little lol. It's only after I got the mail I realised I had it duuuh. So they just need someone like me to derp every so often to get kills I guess. I already installed the gila BPc before going back thank god, but lost my t shirts.  |

Tom Gerard
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1036
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Posted - 2013.05.14 11:47:00 -
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on the Rise?
*sunglasses*
The CCP Rise One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg |

darmwand
Repo.
117
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Posted - 2013.05.14 12:16:00 -
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One thing to keep in mind is that what may look like a gate camp to you might very well just be a roaming gang waiting to jump to the next system. darmwand Repossession Agent http://www.repo-corp.net/
Recruitment is OPEN |
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CCP Solomon
C C P C C P Alliance
263

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Posted - 2013.05.14 12:48:00 -
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- Low sec population on the increase.
- Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
- Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
- People still finding a reason to moan.
Nothing to see here, move along.
CCP Solomon | Technical Producer | EVE Online @RoryAbbott |
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
966
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Posted - 2013.05.14 12:54:00 -
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Its not profitable for them most of the time, but its easy to camp rather than to find people in belts.
Yeah its hardly impressive pvp but it gets them out of high sec and that cant be a bad thing.
Also a lot more crappy gate and station camps for old timers to crush!!
edit: damnit,. pretty much what CCP StopCopyingMe said Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg
CCP Hilmar CEO > "why am i sweating, why is this game doing this to me"
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
480
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Posted - 2013.05.14 13:00:00 -
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Expect even more OP when Odyssey comes out. People looking to make a quick ISK off those security tags that are coming in the expansion. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |

Famine Aligher'ri
2 Girls - 1 Corp I Know Right
4
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Posted - 2013.05.14 13:55:00 -
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Dear CCP:
Please keep the targets coming.
All my love,
XXX Famine Aligher'ri Master Pirate
http://www.twitch.tv/tehfamine
http://www.twitter.com/tehfamine |

Mr Morita
Calamitous-Intent
24
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Posted - 2013.05.14 14:55:00 -
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It's really just because all lowsec PVP'ers are bad. |

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
844
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:11:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Well you're in an NPC corp so that's a good start. You could probably put some rat resistances info in your bio and maybe fly a Gnosis. I think that would be enough to encourage them to shoot you.
I ... wow .. this made me snort harder than free coke .... LOL!
Can I put this in my bio amongst my local/corp smacktalk and highest hit to static mission spawned structure?
Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
844
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:19:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:For people who camp the same gate day in day out, just add them to your contact list and see if they are online before jumping that gate. There's a guy who has done nothing but camp the same gate in Eszur for 3 years.
... wow .. well, I guess that-¦s the low sec version of mission running spammers 23/7 Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |

Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
878
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:28:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote:Can I put this in my bio Sure, if you want. Oh god. |

Mathrin
Synthetic Solution Synthetic Systems
84
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:05:00 -
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CCP Solomon wrote:
- Low sec population on the increase.
- Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
- Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
- People still finding a reason to moan.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Plus one like for you good sir.... |

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1744
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:16:00 -
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CCP Solomon wrote:
- Low sec population on the increase.
- Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
- Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
- People still finding a reason to moan.
Nothing to see here, move along.
with population you mean alts in stabbed T1 frigs and cloaks or the 10% who are not alts in stabbed T1 ships and cloaks? eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1375
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:17:00 -
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I fail to understand how you are classifying those who are gatecamping all the time as "bears" Bad PVP'rs maybe? |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2759
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:51:00 -
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A general rule of lowsec is that the only acceptable increase in population is that of targets, not those looking for targets. |

Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1046
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:03:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:A general rule of lowsec is that the only acceptable increase in population is that of targets who do not fit their T1 ships with cloaks & MWDs or warp stabs, or anything else that might help them do what they want without getting caught, not those looking for targets. FTFY
E: Also, no cloaky fags farming in cov ops either because low-sec is only for industrials idiotically blundering into gate camps and gate campers. CCP has no sense of humour. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1961
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:09:00 -
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Bit of a derpy thread, but I'll straighten out the misinformation at least.
Activate MJD, cloak, reappear 100km away *does* work. You don't even need the tech 2 cloak for it since there's no reliance on being at 75% speed to warp.
Enjoy :)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Kangaax
BlueWaffe
4
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:24:00 -
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NameWasTakenAlready wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Talking about gatecamps, how well does hopping 100km away with a microjumpdrive and then warping off work against gatecamps? Disruptors don't block the microjump drive. If you can delay a scram for 10 seconds you can slip camps super easily with it. I actually need to try cloak + micro jump one of these days, as battleships are the only class of ship that can run into issues with cloak +MWD due to long align times on armor battleships. In theory the addition of the micro jump drive gave battleships a reliable way to slip gate camps. Lord knows every other class of ship has a way already. Which brings me back to my confusion. Cloak MWD is like 99.9% effective on any battle cruiser or smaller, so how do these camps still exist.
Just quoting to add that orcas have the same issue as battleships regarding cloak/MWD. I'm almost sad i can't fit a MJD on it, but it wouldn't have the grid anyway |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:38:00 -
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Kangaax wrote:
Just quoting to add that orcas have the same issue as battleships regarding cloak/MWD. I'm almost sad i can't fit a MJD on it, but it wouldn't have the grid anyway
I have heard that an Orca can pull off the cloak mwd trick with only a very short target window on the end. Its something I would like to try out, but orca training/buying is really not on my todo list.
Make yours as nimble as possible and fit the biggest mwd you can and try the cloak trick. If you need someone to try and lock you convo me, it is an experiment that I have wanted to do for quite sometime.
-áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:43:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Bit of a derpy thread, but I'll straighten out the misinformation at least.
Activate MJD, cloak, reappear 100km away *does* work. You don't even need the tech 2 cloak for it since there's no reliance on being at 75% speed to warp.
Enjoy :) You must walk right through gate camps with that set up! You should run Gonditsa. -áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |

NameWasTakenAlready
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:50:00 -
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darmwand wrote:One thing to keep in mind is that what may look like a gate camp to you might very well just be a roaming gang waiting to jump to the next system.
I already addressed this point. Anyways my issue isn't that they're catching me but that I find their presence annoying. But I guess I shouldn't complain. At least there's more people in lowsec. I'll keep studying their behavior til I can find a way to strike out at them. I mean I live out there so I have a lot of time to watch them. And for those who don't understand why I call these guys bears...they actively avoid actual fights and risk. That is like the definition of care bear. Anywho I guess just lock thread. Maybe in a week I'll have some funny kill mails. |

Obvious Cyno
The Scope Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:52:00 -
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Perhaps to outside eyes they are gatecamps, but actually they are roaming gangs holding on a gate. I mean I've literally never heard of a stiletto in a gatecamp. Unless they're only firing on -10s or something. Not everything is always as it seems. |

Masuka Taredi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:59:00 -
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Why don't you assemble a fleet of like minded people and take the fight to these campers then if you want to destroy them so much? Could be fun for both sides. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
888
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:04:00 -
[44] - Quote
NameWasTakenAlready wrote:And for those who don't understand why I call these guys bears...they actively avoid actual fights and risk.
Then 99% of the game are "carebears" and the definition loses all meaning.
I can change the definition of words too, like "pumpkin" now means banana, but then I'll look like an idiot too. |

NameWasTakenAlready
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:15:00 -
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Masuka Taredi wrote:Why don't you assemble a fleet of like minded people and take the fight to these campers then if you want to destroy them so much? Could be fun for both sides.
Already working on it... heh heh
And of course they're care bears. They take less risk than fw farmers or ninja gankers. They're as active as an ice miner. I realize traditional care bear definition is pve, but I have more respect for people who run ventures in lowsec than these guys. I full well realize its my own perception, but they're lower than ice miners to me. Lol |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7799
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:18:00 -
[46] - Quote
NameWasTakenAlready wrote:And for those who don't understand why I call these guys bears...they actively avoid actual fights and risk
yes well when everyone fights with "honor" or whatever those of us who don't tend to win mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7799
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:22:00 -
[47] - Quote
for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NN30YMzja6Y#t=178s mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |

Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
68
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:28:00 -
[48] - Quote
Andski wrote:NameWasTakenAlready wrote:And for those who don't understand why I call these guys bears...they actively avoid actual fights and risk yes well when everyone fights with "honor" or whatever those of us who don't tend to win
HONOR, what you hope your ennemies have...because it will help you crush them. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2761
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:42:00 -
[49] - Quote
Some Rando wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:A general rule of lowsec is that the only acceptable increase in population is that of targets who do not fit their T1 ships with cloaks & MWDs or warp stabs, or anything else that might help them do what they want without getting caught, not those looking for targets. FTFY E: Also, no cloaky fags farming in cov ops either because low-sec is only for industrials idiotically blundering into gate camps and gate campers.
NOOOOO YOU ARE TO DIE IN MY CAMP!!! MY STATS!!!! BECAUSE OF WCS!!! NERF HIGHSEC!!!1!!! MARSHA MARSHA MARSHA!! ALL CAPS!!!
Wait, we can use bombs in lowsec?
Hmmmmmmm |

Sentamon
930
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:54:00 -
[50] - Quote
NameWasTakenAlready wrote: Wtf is going on here? Where are these people coming from? How in the world is this profitable or fun for them? When I'm out getting some decent solo fights these guys are just manning these camps 24/7 and not even catching a fraction of their targets.
Maybe they're pirates looking for extremely valuable kills, and not braindead gategankers that shoot everything that moves? ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
468
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:56:00 -
[51] - Quote
I like campers. They don't ask for much and they provide challenge and entertainment. I bet CCP likes them to. Maybe the jump in radius should be reduced to 10000 since mwd/cloak is too effective. And all the empires be separated by lowsec strips. -áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1925
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:03:00 -
[52] - Quote
CCP Solomon wrote:
- Low sec population on the increase.
- Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
- Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
- People still finding a reason to moan.
Nothing to see here, move along. Well, at least you got one out of four right. A significant improvement for CCP if I may say so myself. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
693
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:03:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Talking about gatecamps, how well does hopping 100km away with a microjumpdrive and then warping off work against gatecamps? works good
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Kult Altol
Biohazard.
251
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:08:00 -
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I actually read this whole thread.....and I don't like OP. if you head to 4chan they always call this type of OP a . . .
I'm one of those carebears that just recently started pvp, and yes we sit on gates for various reasons. But it's never officially a "gate camp" An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point I Know Right
115
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:12:00 -
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CCP Solomon wrote:
- Low sec population on the increase.
- Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
- Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
- People still finding a reason to moan.
Nothing to see here, move along. Yup... that made my day
On another note, come down to Black Rise for a day or two. We'll make you welcome while you stay!  "I swear there are more people complaining over "nullsecers complaining" then actual nullsec people complaining." |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
73
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:19:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:I actually read this whole thread.....and I don't like OP. if you head to 4chan they always call this type of OP a . . .
I'm one of those carebears that just recently started pvp, and yes we sit on gates for various reasons. But it's never officially a "gate camp" And have you trained your targeting skills like a good boy? All the weaponry and ship skills mean jack if you can't lock a big slow ship before it warps away  |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1859
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:28:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:A general rule of lowsec is that the only acceptable increase in population is that of targets, not those looking for targets. Then obviously you need to kill anyone entering low sec who is looking for targets. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:39:00 -
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NameWasTakenAlready wrote: Let me put it this way: when I see stupid players, I want to destroy them. I target miners for this reason, but miners are not armed. Its time to do something a bit more challenging. I regard these players as an enemy to eve due to their stupidity, but if I want to strike back at them I need to understand them.
So you need help from us to strike back at them for slighting you in some way by being stupid?
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