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xo3e The Deliberate Forces HYDRA RELOADED 71	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:50:00 - [31] - Quote Quote: Lastly, to fly with an alliance in the Alliance Tournament XI you will need to have been a member of that alliance from downtime this morning, at 11:00 UTC May 15th. take it as you like, CCP but it is Team who wins not an Alliance behind this team. and today you screwed many teams Signature removed. Navigator
Tyrrax Thorrk Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 234	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:03:00 - [32] - Quote Should I even bother petitioning ? It sounds like you designed this rules change (with no warning) specifically to keep me from flying on the team I've been captain of in 10 previous CCP tournaments.

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 5853	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:07:00 - [33] - Quote Tyrrax Thorrk wrote: Should I even bother petitioning ? It sounds like you designed this rules change (with no warning) specifically to keep me from flying on the team I've been captain of in 10 previous CCP tournaments. Wasn't aimed at you, but we did recognize going into it that it would affect you. However we're not stopping you from competing, just saying that for this particular tournament you need to compete for your home alliance. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie

Tyrrax Thorrk Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 235	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:11:00 - [34] - Quote My home alliance is Dystopia, just because one of my chars is in PL most of the time doesn't make it my home alliance, nor have I ever had anything to do with their alliance or NEO or SCL teams. Most of my characters are in Dystopia, the alliance I actually run.
Green Gambit Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 16	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:15:00 - [35] - Quote Tyrrax Thorrk wrote: just because one of my chars is in PL most of the time doesn't make it my home alliance Surely that's the definition of your home alliance - the place where you spend most of your time...
Tubrug1 180	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:16:00 - [36] - Quote Tyrrax Thorrk wrote: Should I even bother petitioning ? It sounds like you designed this rules change (with no warning) specifically to keep me from flying on the team I've been captain of in 10 previous CCP tournaments. You seem slightly distressed by this. www.tubrug1.blogspot.co.uk
Tyrrax Thorrk Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 237	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:18:00 - [37] - Quote Green Gambit wrote: Tyrrax Thorrk wrote: just because one of my chars is in PL most of the time doesn't make it my home alliance Surely that's the definition of your home alliance - the place where you spend most of your time... Maybe if I only had one account. Tubrug1 wrote: You seem slightly distressed by this. why didn't you just post "u mad ?"
pmchem GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 485	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:19:00 - [38] - Quote Tyrrax Thorrk wrote: Most of my characters are in Dystopia, the alliance I actually own and run. Sounds like you could use one of those chars for Team Dystopia or Team Tyrrax or whatever you wanna call it!
Tyrrax Thorrk Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 237	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:22:00 - [39] - Quote I'd rather continue to fly the character I've been a team captain on in 12 previous tournaments. (including SCL) But thanks for your totally not trolling advice.
Zackgar Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 146	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:24:00 - [40] - Quote Tyrrax Thorrk wrote: Tubrug1 wrote: You seem slightly distressed by this. why didn't you just post "u mad ?" Probably because that's obvious and didn't require clarification

Zloco Crendraven BALKAN EXPRESS 337	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:27:00 - [41] - Quote Great decision for the deadline of aliance membership. Finally we ll see what is the best alliance in EVE in a tournament. For the rest there is the SCL, which is a great thing happening to EVE. Maybe it is time for true sport teams (Corporation, Alliances) with paid player transfers between them? Oh sooo many opportunities. LF CSM8 candidate. Are you what lowsec needs? --->-átinyurl.com/afaawrb
Matthias Duran Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 32	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:28:00 - [42] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Professor Clio wrote: The thought occured to me that this cut-off was to prevent "B teams". Does it mean that Red and Blue can enter separate teams then as we are separate alliances. A purple team is our preference and to be fair we are a single entity but if that's the only way for us to get the people who have already been practicing for months to fly in the AT we may do that. Our default position would be for you to enter multiple teams as you are multiple alliances, however we will consider requests for exceptions in special circumstances. We want to enable all pilots in EVE who want to represent their home entity, and we'll do what we can to fairly allow people to do that in good faith. If RvB fields two teams, at least half of the members of each team will be the alts of the other. I assume you don't want that.

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 5857	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:31:00 - [43] - Quote Matthias Duran wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Professor Clio wrote: The thought occured to me that this cut-off was to prevent "B teams". Does it mean that Red and Blue can enter separate teams then as we are separate alliances. A purple team is our preference and to be fair we are a single entity but if that's the only way for us to get the people who have already been practicing for months to fly in the AT we may do that. Our default position would be for you to enter multiple teams as you are multiple alliances, however we will consider requests for exceptions in special circumstances. We want to enable all pilots in EVE who want to represent their home entity, and we'll do what we can to fairly allow people to do that in good faith. If RvB fields two teams, at least half of the members of each team will be the alts of the other. I assume you don't want that. Real life individuals may only compete on one team. Like I said before, if you would like consideration for an exception to the cutoff have someone in leadership submit a petition to the community queue. We're going to do our best to ensure that everyone gets a chance to compete in good faith. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie

Tubrug1 180	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:31:00 - [44] - Quote Zackgar wrote: Tyrrax Thorrk wrote: [quote=Tubrug1]You seem slightly distressed by this. why didn't you just post "u mad ?" Because I can say it far more elegantly, your behaviour is reminiscent of a plebian. www.tubrug1.blogspot.co.uk
Tetsel Heretic Army Heretic Initiative 80	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:32:00 - [45] - Quote Matthias Duran wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Professor Clio wrote: The thought occured to me that this cut-off was to prevent "B teams". Does it mean that Red and Blue can enter separate teams then as we are separate alliances. A purple team is our preference and to be fair we are a single entity but if that's the only way for us to get the people who have already been practicing for months to fly in the AT we may do that. Our default position would be for you to enter multiple teams as you are multiple alliances, however we will consider requests for exceptions in special circumstances. We want to enable all pilots in EVE who want to represent their home entity, and we'll do what we can to fairly allow people to do that in good faith. If RvB fields two teams, at least half of the members of each team will be the alts of the other. I assume you don't want that. Wow, what a threat !! Sure they are shaking at CCP now... But sure do it, if rules are same as last year, you will be ban -2 teams on the field. So please do it ! Loyal servent to Mother Amamake. Heretic Army's "Adult Movie" Star. Twitter:-á-á-á-á@EVE_Tetsel-á-á-á@HereticArmy
Green Gambit Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 19	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:38:00 - [46] - Quote Tetsel wrote: But sure do it, if rules are same as last year, you will be ban -2 teams on the field. So please do it ! This is the problem RvB has. A whole bunch of the core membership has characters on both sides, and last year there was a real danger of RvB getting banned under the collaborating rules. The fundamental problem RvB has, is that game mechanics force us to be separate. RvB would be most happy as a single alliance, with two corps at war. Internally we consider ourselves to be a single entity. Unfortunately the way war-decs work means this can't be the case.
Matthias Duran Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 32	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:39:00 - [47] - Quote Tetsel wrote: Wow, what a threat !! Sure they are shaking at CCP now... But sure do it, if rules are same as last year, you will be ban -2 teams on the field. So please do it ! That wasn't a "threat". It was a reminder to CCP that the leadership and long-term membership of both RvB alliances are mostly the same people.
Green Gambit Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 19	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:40:00 - [48] - Quote Tyrrax Thorrk wrote: Maybe if I only had one account. So you have a character to take part as on another account, which is part of the alliance you most identify yourself with. Doesn't seem like there's a problem...
DHB WildCat Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 217	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:41:00 - [49] - Quote I know I deserve no special exception, but seeing as how I have been on many AT teams prior but was in a noob corp for the last few months, i had no home alliance. I did decide to join up with some friends for this new tourney but seeing as how I was in a corp / alliance that isnt even eligable for the tourney, I am left wondering what can I possibly do since I cannot enter at all? Also how do I send this petition?
Khar Velsox 1	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:42:00 - [50] - Quote While I understand the reasoning behind no warning given, it does give AT XI a rather cheap flavour compared to past few ATs, which have been about assembling the absolute best team for the grandest tournament of the year.

Karsa Egivand Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 182	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:50:00 - [51] - Quote Tyrrax Thorrk wrote: My home alliance is Dystopia, just because one of my chars is in PL most of the time doesn't make it my home alliance, nor have I ever had anything to do with their AT, NEO or SCL teams. Most of my characters are in Dystopia, the alliance I actually own and run. But hey if you guys just made this rules change to be dicks which is what it sounds like there won't be a Tyrrax on team Tyrrax. Wait, maybe I don't understand something correctly. If most of your characters are in Dystopia... as of this moment ... why can't you fly for them (with those chars)? I think I am not getting something.
Edward Olmops Sirius Fleet 58	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:51:00 - [52] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Professor Clio wrote: The thought occured to me that this cut-off was to prevent "B teams". Does it mean that Red and Blue can enter separate teams then as we are separate alliances. A purple team is our preference and to be fair we are a single entity but if that's the only way for us to get the people who have already been practicing for months to fly in the AT we may do that. Our default position would be for you to enter multiple teams as you are multiple alliances, however we will consider requests for exceptions in special circumstances. We want to enable all pilots in EVE who want to represent their home entity, and we'll do what we can to fairly allow people to do that in good faith. I do understand the reasoning behind the rule. Thank you for understanding our position and providing at least a chance to get around it. I will try the petition.
Green Gambit Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 20	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:51:00 - [53] - Quote Khar Velsox wrote: While I understand the reasoning behind no warning given, it does give AT XI a rather cheap flavour compared to past few ATs, which have been about assembling the absolute best team for the grandest tournament of the year. No that's what the New Eden Open is for - assembling the best team. The Alliance Tournament is about proving which _alliance_ is best at PvP... (hint the clue is in the name - "Alliance Tournament")

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 5857	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:52:00 - [54] - Quote DHB WildCat wrote: Also how do I send this petition? F12 -> Create New Petition -> "Other Issues" group -> "Community" category Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie

Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 4975	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:53:00 - [55] - Quote Karsa Egivand wrote: Tyrrax Thorrk wrote: My home alliance is Dystopia, just because one of my chars is in PL most of the time doesn't make it my home alliance, nor have I ever had anything to do with their AT, NEO or SCL teams. Most of my characters are in Dystopia, the alliance I actually own and run. But hey if you guys just made this rules change to be dicks which is what it sounds like there won't be a Tyrrax on team Tyrrax. Wait, maybe I don't understand something correctly. If most of your characters are in Dystopia... as of this moment ... why can't you fly for them (with those chars)? I think I am not getting something. Maybe they don't have the necessary skills ready or he just doesn't want to fly for a losing team :P
CoiledVipers Calamitous-Intent 10	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:53:00 - [56] - Quote I've got to say that this deadline is a swift kick to the nuts for me. Nobody gives a **** about the NEO or SCL, this is the event that pilots want to compete in. I'd appreciate it greatly if ccp would at least seriously consider giving a few pilots and corporations a chance to become eligible.
Green Gambit Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 20	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:57:00 - [57] - Quote Destination SkillQueue wrote: Maybe they don't have the necessary skills ready or he just doesn't want to fly for a losing team :P So Dystopia is the alliance he most identifies with and flies with most of the time, but he only lends them his good characters every now and again?
Edward Olmops Sirius Fleet 59	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:00:00 - [58] - Quote Shadoo wrote: Well, this IS supposed to be the Alliance Tournament -- and as such, giving no notice and excluding the old "AT-only Alliance" crowd to be honest shouldn't be such a big deal today. It USED to be a big deal because AT was the only competitive esport around for EVE -- but with NEO, SCL and FF Tourneys already on the roster, isn't it about time the Alliance Tournament once again became about, you know, alliances we know from EVE TQ competing against each others and less about ~12 man real life friends who make up an alliance for the tournament that exists 2 months of the year? NEO has brilliant price pool and format to help the informal friends compete and OWN, SCL has started up really strong and SCL3 was a massively competitive and entertaining format of the same. And btw, it runs every month. It is not THAT easy. Believe me, I have tried. The first NEO had a 20 PLEX minimum price tag on it, which is difficult to sell to your members "just to get blown up by PL once in round 1". The SCL is great, but they do have a very limited number of slots. And many of the teams competing there are also composed of some of the big alliances that happen to be the home of quite some of the finest pilots in the New Eden Cluster. And the FF tourneys... I might also have tried these, but then.. suddenly... no more tickets. So in fact, for a smaller team without infinite budget, the Alliance Tournament is the only viable opportunity to get into that type of competitive sports environment.
Tyrrax Thorrk Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 239	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:03:00 - [59] - Quote Green Gambit wrote: So Dystopia is the alliance he most identifies with and flies with most of the time, but he only lends them his good characters every now and again? This character has been a team captain in 9 previous Alliance Tournaments, 2 SCL tourneys and the NEO, something wrong with wanting to continue using the the character people associate the most with my teams ? I have good characters in Dystopia, not sure why you seem to think all my good ones are elsewhere, but some characters are better than others for specialized roles so one doesn't always use the same one for every match, and just because they're good doesn't mean I should be forced to use one of them over this one. Previously CCP gave you advance notice so people could move their chars around, they didn't give any warning that they were going to be dicks about it this time, which will affect a great many teams, most of which are actually worth having in the tournament, f.i. DHB Wildcat, and I'm sure this'll affect Seldarine.
Aliventi Burning Napalm Northern Coalition. 68	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:05:00 - [60] - Quote When will we find out how/when to enter the alliance in the tournament? With the Odyssey rebalence and new ship additions when will we find out the point worth of each ship? Also, how many points will we be allowed for the group play and then for the rest of the tournament? In other words, can you make a devblog with all the important stuff please?



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