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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.16 05:14:00 -
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You're not expected to accept x losses per x gains, you're expected to accept the possibility of a loss, period. It's not something you can put in a spreadsheet like every other part of the game, it's just something you accept as a reality of the game.
It's this thing that the wretches cannot accept, and they demand changes that give them perfect safety and allow them to play in their own little bubble, generating massive amounts of ISK to cash out with.
EVE isn't a hellish fragfest like Darkfall and it shouldn't be, but it also shouldn't be Friendship is Magic: Space Adventures. If you can't accept the possibility that somebody somewhere might consider you a target, you're playing the wrong game. mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.16 05:30:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:"Possibility of a loss".
Key words there.
How much possibility is there compared to inevitability.
But we can put aside stats and mechanics (get rid of the spreadsheet) and we have to deal with the truth versus perception.
As soon as everybody stops arguing about the truth, as if winning will change it, and starts working to change the perception (a greater possibility) this whole high sec thing is not going to end.
What I'm saying is that if someone wants to destroy you and has the means to do so, they should be able to. The only thing that should ever be up for debate is the means, not whether they should be able to. mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:59:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:I don't consider "non-PVPers" simpletons or anything. They choose to play a certain way, as do I.
What I dislike, is when the anti-PVP crowd starts championing changes to game play, to "protect" themselves from the big mean shiptoasters. Protect yourself, it's EVE.
Also, glad you're having fun dodging and weaving us gankers! I hope we meet in-game one day to test our mettle against each other!
defending themselves isn't their playstyle
botting is mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:47:00 -
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every time some forevernoob quits eve, it's a victory for the game as a whole mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:23:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Sure, there are some stupid mechanics, like having to change corps to get out of a war dec. it would be nice if there were a way to get out of a war dec without changing corps... but that isn't making high sec safer, since I can already change corps to get out of a war dec.... it would just make getting out of a war dec a little less of a hassle.
this is basically carebearism at its finest: you don't want your choices to bring you the slightest bit of inconvenience mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.16 22:33:00 -
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Mayhaw Morgan wrote:So a mugging victim wouldn't be a victim if they would just learn to enjoy being mugged?
again with the victim complex, again with trivializing bad things that happen to people in real life by comparing them to legitimate gameplay in a video game mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7871
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Posted - 2013.05.16 22:35:00 -
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it's like when worthless miners trivialize domestic violence by telling everyone that miners are just like battered women when they get suicide ganked mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.16 22:40:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:PvE games are histrically more successful than PvP games.
citation needed mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:54:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:I disagree. Its the way it is because gankers cant control themselves. Your suggestion would make it far too unbalanced in favor of ganking. Itd be pointless doing anything else.
suicide gankers don't need to control themselves because the game has had mechanics to keep them in check for years, see the 15 minute GCC timer that effectively keeps you docked for 15 minutes
even the most active ganking campaigns have only spawned /maybe/ one or two hundred ganks per day, at most, and I'm talking about the very peak of hulkageddon
consider that: ~1000 suicide ganks per week is enough to send people into an absolute panic where they all whine on the forums about being victims and compare it to the holocaust, the pogroms and every other historical atrocity, but worse mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7902
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:20:00 -
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Every NPC alt is a top-level director in whatever nullsec alliance is the flavor of the month and a PvP maven. mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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