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Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
4024
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Posted - 2013.05.16 17:48:00 -
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Earlier today I wanted to go jump into a rifter and fly out to low sec and just see what happened. It's something I've never done and I thought it would be fun...this must be the 10th time or so I've thought of doing this and every single time I decide not to because of my attribute implants. I don't want to risk losing the faster training times by either using a jump clone or losing the clone with the implants. Anyone else have this issue? I feel like it's keeping me from playing the game lol. Also do you think the removal of attribute enhancing implants would be a good thing for the game? Just curious to hear from some others about this topic. |
ian papabear
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
72
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Posted - 2013.05.16 17:50:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Earlier today I wanted to go jump into a rifter and fly out to low sec and just see what happened. It's something I've never done and I thought it would be fun...this must be the 10th time or so I've thought of doing this and every single time I decide not to because of my attribute implants. I don't want to risk losing the faster training times by either using a jump clone or losing the clone with the implants. Anyone else have this issue? I feel like it's keeping me from playing the game lol. Also do you think the removal of attribute enhancing implants would be a good thing for the game? Just curious to hear from some others about this topic.
stop with your trolling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNReV76PtqM |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
4024
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Posted - 2013.05.16 17:51:00 -
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ian papabear wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Earlier today I wanted to go jump into a rifter and fly out to low sec and just see what happened. It's something I've never done and I thought it would be fun...this must be the 10th time or so I've thought of doing this and every single time I decide not to because of my attribute implants. I don't want to risk losing the faster training times by either using a jump clone or losing the clone with the implants. Anyone else have this issue? I feel like it's keeping me from playing the game lol. Also do you think the removal of attribute enhancing implants would be a good thing for the game? Just curious to hear from some others about this topic. stop with your trolling
It's not a troll...I was just curious to hear others views on it since I feel like it's keeping me from doing all the things in EVE that I want to do. |
Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
896
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Posted - 2013.05.16 17:56:00 -
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Why remove them from the game when you can just avoid using them yourself?
Oh god. |
Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2013.05.16 17:58:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Earlier today I wanted to go jump into a rifter and fly out to low sec and just see what happened. It's something I've never done and I thought it would be fun...this must be the 10th time or so I've thought of doing this and every single time I decide not to because of my attribute implants. I don't want to risk losing the faster training times by either using a jump clone or losing the clone with the implants. Anyone else have this issue? I feel like it's keeping me from playing the game lol. Also do you think the removal of attribute enhancing implants would be a good thing for the game? Just curious to hear from some others about this topic.
That's actually a common problem especially towards the beginning of the game, doesn't help needing 8.0 standing to get your own JC. |
ian papabear
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
72
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:02:00 -
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I wish for a day where people on forums would post about real issues of the game, everything people complain about are just things that if fixed would make the game more convenient for them. most of the issues people post about actually do not hinder people's game in any way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNReV76PtqM |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
421
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:07:00 -
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The 8.0 standing thing for JCs seems-- really weird. Arbitrary. I mean, why? To force people to use Rorqual clone facilities? |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
4024
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:13:00 -
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ian papabear wrote:I wish for a day where people on forums would post about real issues of the game, everything people complain about are just things that if fixed would make the game more convenient for them. most of the issues people post about actually do not hinder people's game in any way
It is a real issue for obviously more people than just myself. I just think if there were no attribute enhancing implants at all more people would be out there taking risks instead of hanging around high sec or docked because our implants are too important to us. This is a forum btw incase you were unaware, it's for discussions about any and everything EVE related...not just issues YOU feel are important. I think having Pandemic Legion under your name has gone right to your head.
Riot Girl wrote:Why remove them from the game when you can just avoid using them yourself?
Im not demanding they be removed, I was just looking to hear from others about the issue I am having with them. I would like nothing more than to avoid using them or lose them for all I care. But it's not that simple for everyone lol. All of my characters are using +5's. For someone like myself who has never left high sec...it's an expensive thing to replace if lost. But if they didn't exist anymore I think others like myself who avoid pvp/lowsec/null/wh space would very much go to those places and exp the other things this game has to offer. I want to do other things and take risks in the game, but for whatever reason can't force myself to do it because if I lose my implants I gain a ton of training time.
If they removed them they could increase the base attributes slightly(not too much) and then get rid of that bonus. They got rid of learning skills because well nobody wanted to spend their first week or 3 learning learning skills before playing the game. I think removing the implants that do the exact same thing as those skills could be a positive thing. |
Sab Sab Five
Purging Maelstrom Sicarius Draconis
60
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:16:00 -
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the time lost popping into a jump clone and wandering around low sec will be made up in the excitement of the action. Also, unless you are using badass implants, it really isnt that much time loss.
be prepared to lose your rifter, and to be chased around, and probably to die. But then again, that is part of the fun. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
60
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:19:00 -
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Six Six Six wrote:That's actually a common problem especially towards the beginning of the game, doesn't help needing 8.0 standing to get your own JC.
Problem solved:
Estel Arador
I promise that Republic Military School won't be angry if you pop into EACS for a day to install some jump clones. |
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Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
4024
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:21:00 -
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Sab Sab Five wrote:the time lost popping into a jump clone and wandering around low sec will be made up in the excitement of the action. Also, unless you are using badass implants, it really isnt that much time loss.
be prepared to lose your rifter, and to be chased around, and probably to die. But then again, that is part of the fun.
I do want to lose my rifter, I wanna get out there and have the fun I know I am missing. But without the +5's it adds days on my skills lol. Which is where my problem is. Ugh.... maybe I should just fly my pod out to low and lose it on purpose....at least I'd be rid of the damn things lol. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
60
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:22:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote: I want to do other things and take risks in the game,
No you don't, or you would be.
You're playing EVE exactly how you want to be playing it. Risk averse and safe. The implants are an excuse.
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Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:22:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote: Also do you think the removal of attribute enhancing implants would be a good thing for the game? Just curious to hear from some others about this topic.
As for this, yes, I do think their removal would be a good thing just as the removal of learning skill books was a good thing.
There are plenty of skills to train without needing them, people run out of things they want to train because they limit their characters in their roles or because the share roles across their alts.
If it was me I'd get rid of learning implants and add +4 to each attribute but allow those extra ones to be moved via remaps. +4 because that's probably around the average being used throughout the universe on played characters (excluding specials with limited training that don't require implants). |
Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
2851
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:25:00 -
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No, it's not a real issue. It's all in your head (pun intended), you are risk averse and wearing what you can't afford to lose.
Nobody forced you to put in those implants, it was your choice. Guess you got full sets of +5s as well.
Anyway, getting podded is not very common in lowsec. It happens every now and then in wormholes, and more frequently in null.
Can you explain why most people don't wear full sets of +5s, and why many people risk much more valuable implant sets everyday?
P.S. Have you calculated how much SP you have gained by wearing +5s instead of affordable set of two +4s? I'm asking because most people who swear by them haven't calculated it.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:26:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Six Six Six wrote:That's actually a common problem especially towards the beginning of the game, doesn't help needing 8.0 standing to get your own JC. Problem solved: Estel Arador I promise that Republic Military School won't be angry if you pop into EACS for a day to install some jump clones.
So you suggest leaving the NPC corp to get jump clones, it's always been the case before that if you leave an NPC starter corp to join a player corp when you leave that player corp you end up in a different NPC corp. So what makes you think I want to be in a different NPC corp?
Or has this changed and I didn't get the memo? |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
4026
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:27:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote: I want to do other things and take risks in the game,
No you don't, or you would be. You're playing EVE exactly how you want to be playing it. Risk averse and safe. The implants are an excuse.
You're right...people always do what they want and nothing ever EVER prevent's them from doing so. |
Snaggletooth Slackjaw
Uchusen Technologies
6
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:27:00 -
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Go fly into low sec wth your rifter. get blown up. Get podded.
Just buy some new implants and get on with playing EVE, and having fun.
What's the big deal? ISK is meaningless.....if you are stopping yourself from having fun because you might have to spend a few million ISK to replace stuff, then you're playing the wrong game. Personnel Manager for Uchusen Technologies. |
Danni stark
289
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:29:00 -
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i don't pvp because i might lose +4s.
i simply prefer a faster training time to pvping. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
61
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:30:00 -
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Six Six Six wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Six Six Six wrote:That's actually a common problem especially towards the beginning of the game, doesn't help needing 8.0 standing to get your own JC. Problem solved: Estel Arador I promise that Republic Military School won't be angry if you pop into EACS for a day to install some jump clones. So you suggest leaving the NPC corp to get jump clones, it's always been the case before that if you leave and NPC starter corp to join a player corp when you leave that player corp you end up in a different NPC corp. So what makes you think I want to be in a different NPC corp? Or has this changed and I didn't get the memo?
Nothing makes me think it. You're obviously quite happy huddled in the protection afforded by RMS. I'm simply pointing out options to the more enterprising individuals among us. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
847
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:31:00 -
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Not sure if troll or really stupid...
Can someone explain to this guy what a jump clone is? I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner. Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |
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Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:31:00 -
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Snaggletooth Slackjaw wrote:Go fly into low sec wth your rifter. get blown up. Get podded.
Just buy some new implants and get on with playing EVE, and having fun.
What's the big deal? ISK is meaningless.....if you are stopping yourself from having fun because you might have to spend a few million ISK to replace stuff, then you're playing the wrong game.
You are right isk is meaningless when you have lots of it, not so when you don't have much and newer players don't have much generally unless they buy and sell PLEX. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1755
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:32:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:ian papabear wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Earlier today I wanted to go jump into a rifter and fly out to low sec and just see what happened. It's something I've never done and I thought it would be fun...this must be the 10th time or so I've thought of doing this and every single time I decide not to because of my attribute implants. I don't want to risk losing the faster training times by either using a jump clone or losing the clone with the implants. Anyone else have this issue? I feel like it's keeping me from playing the game lol. Also do you think the removal of attribute enhancing implants would be a good thing for the game? Just curious to hear from some others about this topic. stop with your trolling It's not a troll...I was just curious to hear others views on it since I feel like it's keeping me from doing all the things in EVE that I want to do. They're only implants. HTFU and fly RedSpace! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
61
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:33:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote: I want to do other things and take risks in the game,
No you don't, or you would be. You're playing EVE exactly how you want to be playing it. Risk averse and safe. The implants are an excuse. You're right...people always do what they want and nothing ever EVER prevent's them from doing so.
Exactly. You are preventing you from going and PvPing in lowsec. You're standing in your own way. You made the decision to implant +5s in your head, you made the choice not to take advantage of easily obtained jump clones, and you made the choice to value implants over an activity that you claim to want to partake in. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
61
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:34:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:i don't pvp because i might lose +4s.
i simply prefer a faster training time to pvping.
I think my head might explode from a revelation like this.
But then I might lose my own implants. |
Danni stark
290
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:35:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Danni stark wrote:i don't pvp because i might lose +4s.
i simply prefer a faster training time to pvping. I think my head might explode from a revelation like this. But then I might lose my own implants.
put a bag on your head first, it'll make less mess.
nobody likes mess. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
4027
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:37:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:i don't pvp because i might lose +4s.
i simply prefer a faster training time to pvping.
+4's are cheap. If I were were using just a set of those I wouldn't have this issue. You know just because this thread is in general discussion it doesn't mean it requires sarcastic idiotic replies. |
Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:37:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Six Six Six wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Six Six Six wrote:That's actually a common problem especially towards the beginning of the game, doesn't help needing 8.0 standing to get your own JC. Problem solved: Estel Arador I promise that Republic Military School won't be angry if you pop into EACS for a day to install some jump clones. So you suggest leaving the NPC corp to get jump clones, it's always been the case before that if you leave and NPC starter corp to join a player corp when you leave that player corp you end up in a different NPC corp. So what makes you think I want to be in a different NPC corp? Or has this changed and I didn't get the memo? Nothing makes me think it. You're obviously quite happy huddled in the protection afforded by RMS. I'm simply pointing out options to the more enterprising individuals among us.
The biggest problem with NPC corps is they're not all the same, some are quiet and some are more active. So you could go from a corp you find acceptable to one where you might as well be in a solo corp. Better the devil you know than the one you don't. Why should people have to take that risk just for a JC. |
Snaggletooth Slackjaw
Uchusen Technologies
7
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:38:00 -
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Six Six Six wrote:[
You are right isk is meaningless when you have lots of it, not so when you don't have much and newer players don't have much generally unless they buy and sell PLEX.
well, I've been playing for less than 3 months, I've never had enough ISK to buy a PLEX, and I play in wormholes, low and null all the time. Sure, I get blown up, and sometimes podded, sure, I have to grind money back if I want to knock a couple hours off my next skill to level 4.
But I have a hel of a lot of fun playing Eve, and I have learnt a lot more about how to play the game than I ever would have if I never left hi-sec because it's more dangerous elsewhere, and I might lose some ISK or some implants.
It's a game.......take some risks......have some thrills.....forget the number in your wallet.
Personnel Manager for Uchusen Technologies. |
Venom13Games
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:38:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Danni stark wrote:i don't pvp because i might lose +4s.
i simply prefer a faster training time to pvping. +4's are cheap. If I were were using just a set of those I wouldn't have this issue. You know just because this thread is in general discussion it doesn't mean it requires sarcastic idiotic replies.
Get a jump clone and install +4's then? |
Venom13Games
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:40:00 -
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Six Six Six wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Six Six Six wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Six Six Six wrote:That's actually a common problem especially towards the beginning of the game, doesn't help needing 8.0 standing to get your own JC. Problem solved: Estel Arador I promise that Republic Military School won't be angry if you pop into EACS for a day to install some jump clones. So you suggest leaving the NPC corp to get jump clones, it's always been the case before that if you leave and NPC starter corp to join a player corp when you leave that player corp you end up in a different NPC corp. So what makes you think I want to be in a different NPC corp? Or has this changed and I didn't get the memo? Nothing makes me think it. You're obviously quite happy huddled in the protection afforded by RMS. I'm simply pointing out options to the more enterprising individuals among us. The biggest problem with NPC corps is they're not all the same, some are quiet and some are more active. So you could go from a corp you find acceptable to one where you might as well be in a solo corp. Better the devil you know than the one you don't. Why should people have to take that risk just for a JC.
Go to Provi and make a jc there. afaik, you should be able to with no standings and without leaving your NPC corp. |
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