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Haunting Widow Naked Wormhole Raiders Joint Operation Involving Nobodys 7	Posted - 2013.05.16 19:59:00 - [1] - Quote I'm interested in forming a WH-raiding group, not requiring same-corp/alliance memberships and the like, but just a group of players interested in running into WHs together to make profit and kill ****. Idea is currently to have some form of widely available smart-phone contact like gtalk, twitter or whatsapp to coordinate events and check who's available to run what when someone finds a WH and is looking for some help either farming or PWNing what/whoever is inside. If you're interested post below (to keep the thread current and show others what interest there is) and send me an eve-mail with a short tidbit about yourself. Looking for skilled competent pilots who want to work as a team to achieve some pretty big stuff like Mountains of ISK, POS Bashing and lots of fun Kill Mails :) What else you do in EVE is not relevant to me, just looking for people who want to have some fun in WHs without having to live in them.
Sith1s Spectre Sky Fighters Talocan United 138	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:52:00 - [2] - Quote More day trippers in WH space are always welcome :) I mean honestly, what could possibly go wrong? Cheers, Sith CCP please consider hats as a clothing option for our spaceship barbies.-á Artist impression of what this could potentially be http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t66/ROBC5Z06/sithsig_zps86971c83.jpg
Aquila Sagitta Risk-Averse PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS 21	Posted - 2013.05.17 00:44:00 - [3] - Quote Start a new channel ...like bomber bar but for wh diving! "WH Divers" idk if thats taken but im sure you could come up with something more catchy
Oxandrolone Bite Me inc Bitten. 179	Posted - 2013.05.17 01:43:00 - [4] - Quote nice idea mate
Nathan Jameson Talocan Dominion Talocan United 1187	Posted - 2013.05.17 03:35:00 - [5] - Quote The old B274 coalition did this with a number of alliances. Get in touch with Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork and their friends if you'd like some tips. http://www.TalocanUnited.com
Kalel Nimrott EG CORP Talocan United 281	Posted - 2013.05.17 03:43:00 - [6] - Quote I endorse this product and/or service
grassy 420 Boris Johnson's Love Children 6	Posted - 2013.05.17 04:36:00 - [7] - Quote indeed I think us wh peeps would love to see more kspace people trying to fly around! +1
Jess Tanner Hard Knocks Inc. 28	Posted - 2013.05.17 08:20:00 - [8] - Quote Please Do.
Jita GnaGna School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.05.17 08:38:00 - [9] - Quote could only end well
Haunting Widow Naked Wormhole Raiders Joint Operation Involving Nobodys 8	Posted - 2013.05.17 09:06:00 - [10] - Quote Hehe, yes I know that most empies suddenly turning to WHs usually ends in lots of laughs, more than a few exploding ships, lost pilots and self-destructed pods. I'm no stranger to WHs, my first kill ever in EvE took place in a C2 on 2010-02-24. I have spent a LOT of time in WHs and ran a corporation that settled into a C4 for some time and built a carrier there. I had to give it up years ago for the sake of furthering my education but the point is, I'll be watching my ass/dscan and taking precautions in general to ensure we make more than we lose, and we will probably lose, the point is to make it all worth it, and fun :) I would expect if there are enough pilots in attendance to have multiple points, and various forms of ewar spread throughout the fleet to make us more flexible when it comes to responding to PvP situations on the fly. I do have a channel setup, just wanted to get some interest brewing before I started landing people there and was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for a cross-platform instant message-type app for quickly updating team members of any potential raiding to be done as WHs and targets are discovered. And thanks for all the comments so far, this is an idea I've been wanting to do for a LONG time, I've removed other distractions so I can concentrate on this even if I have to solo the first few WHs I find. I have around 57mil SP, some FC experience, null and WH pvp experience, and this is what I really want to do with my time in EVE now. So, post below, send me a mail, who's interested?!
Saheed Cha'chris'ra Krautz WH Exploration and Production 30	Posted - 2013.05.17 09:23:00 - [11] - Quote My Corp and me are living in a WH actually, but i like your idea. I would join your channel, maybe to give targets i found myself, or to join your events from time to time, and just to blow things up. WH Life is sometimes pretty boring, more pew is never a bad idea. But: Are you actually talking about sieging POSses in Wormholes to get their loot? This would mean that you need an own POS in the wormhole you are attacking, and you have to give bluestandings to everyone joining your "event" to be able to get them in your POS, etc etc. Could cause some problems.
Haunting Widow Naked Wormhole Raiders Joint Operation Involving Nobodys 8	Posted - 2013.05.17 09:32:00 - [12] - Quote Saheed Cha'chris'ra wrote: My Corp and me are living in a WH actually, but i like your idea. I would join your channel, maybe to give targets i found myself, or to join your events from time to time, and just to blow things up. WH Life is sometimes pretty boring, more pew is never a bad idea. But: Are you actually talking about sieging POSses in Wormholes to get their loot? This would mean that you need an own POS in the wormhole you are attacking, and you have to give bluestandings to everyone joining your "event" to be able to get them in your POS, etc etc. Could cause some problems. If we were serious about seeking loot from a POS Bash, I would definitely consider placing a POS in the system depending on that systems static connections, if it's close enough to empire I'd just recommend cloaks or jumping to empire to regroup when the RI timer expires and be ready for the finishing touch, move in en-mass, kick ass, and bring hauling ships.
Meytal School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 194	Posted - 2013.05.17 12:15:00 - [13] - Quote Haunting Widow wrote: Saheed Cha'chris'ra wrote: My Corp and me are living in a WH actually, but i like your idea. I would join your channel, maybe to give targets i found myself, or to join your events from time to time, and just to blow things up. WH Life is sometimes pretty boring, more pew is never a bad idea. But: Are you actually talking about sieging POSses in Wormholes to get their loot? This would mean that you need an own POS in the wormhole you are attacking, and you have to give bluestandings to everyone joining your "event" to be able to get them in your POS, etc etc. Could cause some problems. If we were serious about seeking loot from a POS Bash, I would definitely consider placing a POS in the system depending on that systems static connections, if it's close enough to empire I'd just recommend cloaks or jumping to empire to regroup when the RI timer expires and be ready for the finishing touch, move in en-mass, kick ass, and bring hauling ships. As much as I absolutely salivate at the thought of more targets in W-space, please understand that more often than not, you won't get much "loot" from bashing a POS. You are better off spending your time running the sites unless you're bored. The occasional stront-tests do sometimes work out :)
Durzel Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 123	Posted - 2013.05.17 12:23:00 - [14] - Quote Way back when there used to be a "wormhole plunderers" group (and channels) for this sort of thing, but this was mainly when wormholes were still a bit of an unknown quantity. Nowadays with membership of various wormhole-focused corps and alliances being much higher I'm not sure how effective something like this would be. Back then it worked great, was effective and was surprisingly free of backstabbing. I flew some ridiculously pimp stuff with various guys from Genos, AHARM, korpa pyco, Adhocracy and others, often with them in pimped stuff too, on various occasions and never experienced any traps, etc - so it can work. I'd wager nowadays though with many of the entities above able to field fleets that can deal with most random encounters themselves you'd either find that there wouldn't be much sharing of targets, but I'm a bit of a pessimist. It was cool to see motley crew killmails though. :)
Janus Nanzikambe Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 31	Posted - 2013.05.17 12:32:00 - [15] - Quote Nathan Jameson wrote: The old B274 coalition did this with a number of alliances. Get in touch with Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork and their friends if you'd like some tips. It's pretty easy. Form a loose collective of people, gather them in a channel. And whenever someone finds a system with pilots in space or looking like they might be convinced to leave their FF you send in bait/tackle and have a gang standing by a jump out. There're problems with this approach though. People in systems with kspace connections typically watch them + the risk averse will quickly check killboards and see that engagements typically end up with a multi-corp hammer smacking down on them. So other than ganking the foolhardy you're quickly limited to small scale engagements that very rarely escalate. You'll also spend a lot of time burning around empire only to be blueballed. The groups involved will quickly grow to be carebear heavy as victims seek "protection" by association, which lead mostly to fleets being formed to kill a ratting drake in someone's home system that they should be able to kill themselves. Better alternatives are to roll a wormholes static repeatedly (very easy even in lower class WHs) to find backdoor unscouted routes into an active system or logging off a heavily tanked prober t3 in system with good/active targets. The t3 then logs in early in the day, scans the exit and remains hidden waiting for an opportunity to tackle something to force escalation. As Nathan points out we no longer do this, you can only kill so many drakes before it grows boring. We are now strictly NRDS and attempting to regain our honour so we can join the mighty CVA in defence of Providence & all things Amarr.
Nathan Jameson Talocan Dominion Talocan United 1188	Posted - 2013.05.17 12:46:00 - [16] - Quote Janus Nanzikambe wrote: As Nathan points out we no longer do this, you can only kill so many drakes before it grows boring. We are now strictly NRDS and attempting to regain our honour so we can join the mighty CVA in defence of Providence & all things Amarr. Oh you. http://www.TalocanUnited.com
Vincent Gaines Cold Moon Destruction. Transmission Lost 483	Posted - 2013.05.17 12:52:00 - [17] - Quote Please do this. Do you have a public chan? I'll be sure to let you know where there are some good k-space exits.. I mean, entries.... whatever. Not a diplo.-á The above post was edited for spelling.
Bei ArtJay Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 45	Posted - 2013.05.17 14:41:00 - [18] - Quote Nathan Jameson wrote: The old B274 coalition did this with a number of alliances. Get in touch with Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork and their friends if you'd like some tips. To clarify, unlike what OP is suggesting, our Alliance's corps actually lived in wormholes (for the most part) and didn't base form K-Space. It was a pretty casual affair where we jumped out of our WH's and burnt across the galaxy to aid our buddies much the same us many other blue blobs (although we were relatively small compared to entities like Talocan). Easy to do when most of your statics are B274s, more tricky if they are H296s, hence the name. If I had to give you one tip in your endeavour - don't advertise publicly, hand pick people or let your channel evolve naturally for your channel. Oh wait...
Rengas AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 161	Posted - 2013.05.17 15:04:00 - [19] - Quote Haunting Widow wrote: ...to achieve some pretty big stuff like POS Bashing... Sign me up for the fun m8.
Lindsay en Gravonere An Errant Venture 10	Posted - 2013.05.17 15:47:00 - [20] - Quote Why not form a a W-space-based K-space raiding coalition?
Nathan Jameson Talocan Dominion Talocan United 1188	Posted - 2013.05.17 16:06:00 - [21] - Quote Lindsay en Gravonere wrote: Why not form a a W-space-based K-space raiding coalition? That's actually what most of us do now. Pews in wormhole space, even including ganks, are often sparse, so we use random exits to drop in on low or null sec past their gate camps. Explains why some of the anchor WH Space alliances, like VoC, have all their kills in null. http://www.TalocanUnited.com
Kalel Nimrott EG CORP Talocan United 282	Posted - 2013.05.17 16:16:00 - [22] - Quote And they say wspace if overpopulated....
Haunting Widow Naked Wormhole Raiders Joint Operation Involving Nobodys 8	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:44:00 - [23] - Quote Lindsay en Gravonere wrote: Why not form a a W-space-based K-space raiding coalition? That might yet happen, but I think the best way to start forming up to that sort of thing would be to start rolling with people without asking for too much obligation to change the way most players spend the rest of their time. We all know living in a WH changes things, and I'd like to fly with a lot of pilots without asking them to change their eve-style that much right off the bat. Any empire based pilot joining this setup can continue to play the game as they do now, but would be free to join a WH team when action is found, even the pve aspect of WHs is a great breakup from mission running or empire exploration, and the potential for PVP gives it that lowsec element of fun without the hotdrops. I would recommend running with cheaper ships at start (I'm not about to jump into a WH with a faction fit T3 with a bunch of strangers hehe) and as we fly together and benefit from each other, use the earnings to upgrade the ships and get to know each other. Any op would have a pilot standing by off the WH anyways to watch for any side-party's anyone tries to bring in, I have sufficient alts to handle a little bit of defensive scouting. I'll be replying by eve-mail to those interested with the channel name, just to avoid every tom **** and harry from popping in, this is for pilots who are actually interested in trying this out. So again, post interest or eve mail me if you want to try this out with me :)
HerrBert Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 33	Posted - 2013.05.17 18:35:00 - [24] - Quote Come in the table is set and dinner will be served. - From the Scrolls of Adhocracy 3:16
Proclus Diadochu Obstergo Polarized. 253	Posted - 2013.05.18 00:54:00 - [25] - Quote Well wishes on your new venture. o7 ~Boredom Breeds Direction~
Rengas AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 162	Posted - 2013.05.18 02:53:00 - [26] - Quote Lindsay en Gravonere wrote: Why not form a a W-space-based K-space raiding coalition? Preposterous!
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Initiative 3580	Posted - 2013.05.18 07:58:00 - [27] - Quote Lindsay en Gravonere wrote: Why not form a a W-space-based K-space raiding coalition? This has actually been my primary activity in Eve since wormholes came out. We stopped doing it the first time when I got banned and then again when low sec outside FW space just completely dried up. At some point I want to try again and target null sec. To the OP: send me an evemail if you see something interesting. I'm primarily interested in evicting low class wormhole residents with capitals that can't evac. :) -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Quinn Corvez DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized. 2	Posted - 2013.05.18 09:17:00 - [28] - Quote wow what a strange thread... It's like a barbarian rocking up to a civilised country and saying: "hey guy, I'm thinking of setting up a raiding party to loot your cities and **** your women but I don't have the manpower... Will you help me?"
Josilin du Guesclin University of Caille Gallente Federation 61	Posted - 2013.05.18 11:36:00 - [29] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: This has actually been my primary activity in Eve since wormholes came out. We stopped doing it the first time when I got banned and then again when low sec outside FW space just completely dried up. At some point I want to try again and target null sec. We live in a WH with a Null static, chosen for just this reason. It's less fun than it should be, because most of null is empty. As in, there's more life in a chain of dead C4s than you'll see on your average null roam. What's more, when you do find something it's probably one lone ratter who runs for cover when he sees that "+1 local". When it's not, and you get a fight, odds are if there's even a whiff of a loss in the null's side, they hop on their bat-phone and your one dozen pilot cruiser gang gets a couple of carriers plus support hot-dropped on them. I'm not sure it this is the result of serious risk aversion on the nullies' part, or that their PvP types are so bored that when someone does ask for some help the whole Alliance logs on for the chance to shoot something. All-in-all, most of the time w-space is more interesting.
DrBmN Axial tilt 10	Posted - 2013.05.18 12:01:00 - [30] - Quote It is not so easy to find active (and rdy for peew) wh corporations out of hi sec, just so you know. Wh people do not fly so careless as they did some years ago. Make sure you have lots of scanning ships, with pilots who know what they are doing and pray that your fleet doesnt get bored before you get the first kill.

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