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Maximus Hashur
Vanus Technical Solutions Corp Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:02:00 -
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I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this? Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.-á Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!! |
0oO0oOoOo0o
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:15:00 -
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This depends on the shiptype you fly, don't you think ? There will be a difference between flying around in a ceptor and picking the fights you like or flying around solo in a torpedo raven. |
Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.05.16 22:01:00 -
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Pick yo fights betta |
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:12:00 -
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Numbers wise it can take a bit of practice before you win more than you lose.
Keep your ships cheap and eventually you will kill something shiny enough to balance out kill loss isk ratios.
Key is to know your ships. Your own and your enemies. They need to think they can win you need to know you have a fair chance of beating them.
Cannot do much about camps, blobs and OGB although that is not as common as people say it is. |
Zoe Fishpants
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
0
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:41:00 -
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When I started flying solo more frequently my kill/loss ratio went into the toilet and has pretty much stayed there ever since, fluctuating between 5 to 1 and 4 to 1 for the last several months. I think it probably depends on the type of engagements you're taking. I take almost any fight, no matter how stupid, fly mostly scram range frigates and I'm fairly lousy at the game to boot. My ratio should be lousy, or at least that's what I tell myself.
Just taking a quick look at your killboard, it looks like you fly a lot of kitey ships, like the duel damp condor, and sniper ships, like the sniper corm and the arty thrasher. Honestly, you should have a much much better ratio with those types of ships as they give an overwhelming advantage when used as intended. You probably want to look at your tactics and how you're flying them. |
God's Apples
The Tuskers
74
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Posted - 2013.05.17 00:14:00 -
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If you want to be a successful solo PvPer you should stick to one area and get to know the locals in the immediate and surrounding areas really well. EvE is a game of knowledge and if you want to win a lot of fights then you need to know what every ship is capable of and how they are usually fit as well as the role of the ship you're flying and what it's strengths/weaknesses are. This comes with experience so get out there and take every fight you can find.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=God%27s+Apples#kills <- my KB just so you know I have an idea of what I'm talking about. The majority of my kills are solo all without links and I manage to pull of a 3.5:1 K/D and a 73:1 K/D (I don['t know how this happened) this week.
Hope this helps. |
1st-Garrentious WispBender
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.17 00:15:00 -
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If you fly Solo, then you ain't Gallente. Learn to friendship. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
508
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Posted - 2013.05.17 00:50:00 -
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1st-Garrentious WispBender wrote:If you fly Solo, then you ain't Gallente. Learn to friendship.
You know, if you are going to troll the Gallente militia you might not want to use "The best ship is friendship" line which came from a Caldari FC :) |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
376
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Posted - 2013.05.17 02:26:00 -
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chatgris wrote:1st-Garrentious WispBender wrote:If you fly Solo, then you ain't Gallente. Learn to friendship. You know, if you are going to troll the Gallente militia you might not want to use "The best ship is friendship" line which came from a Caldari FC :)
Wouldn't that make the obvious even more obvious?
There might be like 1 person left who doesn't know who owns that toon (it's not me btw) Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Super Chair
Amarrian Vengeance
508
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Posted - 2013.05.17 04:31:00 -
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If i were to make an alt to troll the forums it would be "Fatgris". Chatgris's overweight twin sister that sucks at PvP (the weight issue comes from an inferiority complex so emotional eating ensues). Much flying of terribad gallente ships would happen on this alt to further the persona. Project Cerberus is recruiting for the US Timezone, click here |
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Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:48:00 -
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Depends on the context.
I did a fair amount of low-sec solo work in a vagabond and a wolf for a while and managed about 50% being pretty aggressive and taking on just about any target that would fight.
2 years ago or so I had a stint of doing a lot of solo work in a myrmidon as well and while much of it was gate camping that allows you to pick you targets carefully I still only managed about 80% (one month 96% and one month 54% because of being too aggressive). I killed a noctis on day 1 after its introduction with it and may be one of the first people in eve to have killed a noctis.
In the end I wasn't left with really good killboard stats but I do have a pretty good understanding of what the ships I was using can and cannot do.
In the wormhole my success rate while solo is nearly 100% but that's because I don't usually go after very difficult targets. I have more miners and noctis kills and the odd prober that forgot to cloak up than anything. Those characters aren't my PVP mains though so it's just dicking around. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
509
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:04:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:If i were to make an alt to troll the forums it would be "Fatgris". Chatgris's overweight twin sister that sucks at PvP (the weight issue comes from an inferiority complex so emotional eating ensues). Much flying of terribad gallente ships would happen on this alt to further the persona.
I didn't mean to imply that he was your alt, I know it's Sean Parisi's.
But that is a hilarious troll alt idea though :) |
Hatgris
Frogs United
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:13:00 -
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Hey guys! What's going on in this thread? |
George Boothe
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:31:00 -
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I mainl fly around in t1 frigs and dessies in LS and manage to come to around 1 kill for every 2 losses, BUT around 40%-50% of my losses are actually pod losses because I am too lazy to warp my pod all the way back home, as it only costs 200k isk at the moment. So generally I have the choice between letting them get my pod and be home instantly or warping out and selfdestructing which takes 2 minutes. Lately I have started to try and get my pod out as it bothers me a little that my K/D ratio is so skewed. Isk wise, I usually destroy four times as much as I loose. Most of my kills are from 1v1s whereas only a small part of my losses is in 1v1s. My connection is pretty bad and I would say (without checking the actual numbers, just from very subjective feeling) that 40% of my actual ship losses are from me picking a fight that I knew was not a good idea, but I had roamed so long that I was getting bored. 40% are from blobs/Camps/ogb that I could not avoid. 10% are from actual fair 1v1s where the other person was just better or had the better fit and another 10% due to me loosing connection in the middle of a fight. I am pretty sure that my K/D could get a lot better if I stopped engaging in situations where I know it is not a good idea, however a lot of the best fights that I had only occured because I decided to engage even though I thought I would have no chance. I will gladly loose a couple of frigs and dessies for the off chance that I get an awesome kill against the odds sometimes. |
Garresh
Opposite of Low
189
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:54:00 -
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Many solo pilots won't have that great of a killboard. You should, however, find some ships you do well with. My killboard looks like ass, but my record with Rifters and Firetails is awesome. Can't seem to get the hang of the nano-wolf though. Oh well. Just keep at it and keep trying new ships til you find some you like. As much as character skills matter, I feel like a lot of players just naturally gravitate towards, and do better with, certain ships.
Actually, if you don't want to be bored, aim for a good isk ratio, not a good kill ratio. You'll have more fun and still have something to wave your epeen around with. This Space Intentionally Left Blank |
Zappity
Kurved Space
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:54:00 -
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About 1:1 (kill:loss) with losses split equally between just losing to a better pilot or ship and losing to a blob. I'm a noob at PvP but not new to the game.
I fly solo or if I could be bothered with a covops alt for gatecamps and scouting nearby systems to find more fights. No links. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Maksim Cammeren
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:15:00 -
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When I see an engageable pilot in lowsec and I have the time to evaluate how hard the fight would be, I evaluate their "threat level" approximately in this order:
1. Character age. <1 year old is usually, with some exceptions, not much of a threat, because of character skills. Above 2 years I expect nearly maxed skills (for small ships) 2. Does their killboard show any solo activity? If they have little solo experience, they are safer to engage 3. If they have significant solo activity, is it ganks or what seems like "fair fights"? (of course, there is no truly fair fights in EVE) 4. Their killboard statistics: ISK efficiency, K/D, etc.
I am sure that others have similar though processes.
So, the question is, would you rather have good KB stats or be considered a threat when someone sees your ship out in space?
As to KB stats: everyone can't have great isk efficiency and K/D. It could be a good way to motivate yourself, but it also depends on how risk averse you are. For example, not engaging a Dessie with a newbish pilot with an experienced T1 frig pilot is being risk averse, which I am guilty of, on occasion. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
859
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:26:00 -
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Maximus Hashur wrote:I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?
Depends on what i fly
When i do my favorite ships i get from 8-20 kills per loss average
When i fly riskier stuff i probably don't average more than 3-5 kills per loss. BYDI (Shadow cartel) Recruitment open!
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Super Chair
Amarrian Vengeance
511
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:29:00 -
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Hatgris wrote:Hey guys! What's going on in this thread?
Shut up buck :D Project Cerberus is recruiting for the US Timezone, click here |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
511
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:34:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:Hatgris wrote:Hey guys! What's going on in this thread? Shut up buck :D
I can confirm that this isn't buck's alt (nor mine). |
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Seraph Castillon
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:29:00 -
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I don't know what ratio's I'm getting, but I can't complain. Most of your losses will come from choosing the wrong fights or not reading the situation correctly. Work on that.
Like I've said in previous threads on this: train your situational awareness skills. Before you take a fight, try and determine if there are fleets in system and who is in them. Check directional scan for T3 boosters and command ships. Learn the names of booster alts, add them with standings if needed. Learn what systems are home to booster using, waffle-eating pussies.
Looking at your fits I can't say they are optimal for solo either. Your Merlin for example. It's too slow to have sufficient range control, even with the TD. Its low DPS also means that you cannot engage any rocket frigates in it either.
Also keep in mind that you're much more likely to get blobbed on weekends and Friday evenings. |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
946
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:44:00 -
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Maximus Hashur wrote:I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?
I fly solo allot with no ogb.
I do pay for the best mods I can fit, meta 5 or below. So my ships aren't what I would call cheap but they mostly aren't bling. I really don't recomend using the very cheap ships unless you are learning the absolute basics. Figure out an income source. 100 million isk is like $3. So You can get about 10 t1 frigates that cost 15 mill for $4.50 if you just pay out of pocket.
My loss kill ratio is about 2-3 kills per loss. Not great but its not bad. I can go on rolls where I lose 5 ships with no kill. But you have to learn to trust in your fitting and piloting skills to get through those streaks. If I lose ships due to gate camps I don't take that into account when evaluating a fit. I take allot of fights where I know I will get killed but just hope I can get a kill before I die.
I don't care about my isk ratio very much. Being in a blob for a while will get your isk ratio high if you care about that. If you are on a 2 billion isk kill with 20 other pilots, all 20 get credited with a 2 billion isk kill. Solo pilots should not expect to have a great isk ratio.
I tend to look at my overall battleclinic points per kill versus my battleclinic points per loss to see how I am doing. But this is not perfect. If I fly a destroyer and kill 4 t1 frigates this will lower this ratio but its still a good result and likely a fun fight.
I also tend to look at how many bc points I gave or took in a fight. But again this isn't perfect either. E.g., assume I am in a destroyer and fight 1 destroyer and a t1 frigate. Assume I kill the destroyer but the t1 frigate finishes me off. I will typically just get 20 bc points for the dessie kill. That frigate will get a killmail worth about 40 or 60 bc(depending on the type of dessie) points because it will show he killed my destroyer with the help of a pod. There I say Battleclinic points be damned I love lossmails with pods on my kill.
I have been known to use some expensive implants and lose my pod due to dumb mistakes. IMO Low sec pilots should learn to avoid these mistakes so they can use better implants. I think implants are just a part of fitting ships in low sec and can make a big difference. Not as big of a difference as booster ships but definite edges. I imagine I view my implant sets like some null sec pilots view their cap ships. They are very important tools for what I do (low sec pvp) and I consider the isk I spend on them well spent.
Sorry for the long answer that went way beyond your question. But these are the loose standards I use to mark my progress. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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feihcsiM
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:52:00 -
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God's Apples wrote:http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=God%27s+Apples#kills <- my KB just so you know I have an idea of what I'm talking about.
I thought you did, then you linked battleclinic It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
860
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:01:00 -
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feihcsiM wrote:God's Apples wrote:http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=God%27s+Apples#kills <- my KB just so you know I have an idea of what I'm talking about. I thought you did, then you linked battleclinic
Battleclinic is actually great to determine if someone has a lot of quality kills.
Look at kill count, compare it with ranking, skim over kills to see if there is any bullshit going on (frig station camping, high sec pvp that kinda thing)
And you can get a pretty good idea. BYDI (Shadow cartel) Recruitment open!
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Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
946
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:02:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:If i were to make an alt to troll the forums it would be "Fatgris". Chatgris's overweight twin sister that sucks at PvP (the weight issue comes from an inferiority complex so emotional eating ensues). Much flying of terribad gallente ships would happen on this alt to further the persona.
See if you can buy this character and get her in some bad gallente ships:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Chatgrus Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Banly
Acerbus Vindictum Training Wing Stealth Wear Inc.
1
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:31:00 -
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It's probably right around 1:1 when I'm flying around solo. I'm too lazy to get a second account for OGB and never have implants because I get podded way more than anyone should be. If I'm smart about it and have time to be patient I can get a pretty good ratio going until I run into someone who has OGB or insane implants but that's just part of the game. Generally I'm just goofing around though and try to win against the first thing I see on dscan (I've got some pretty ******** losses due to this).
As long as you're having fun your k:d/isk ratio doesn't matter too much I think. |
Garresh
Opposite of Low
191
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:30:00 -
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Quote:As long as you're having fun your k:d/isk ratio doesn't matter too much I think.
This. Why are you soloing if not for fun? Its bad for your kill board compared to blobbing, pays ****, won't make you efamous unless you're doing a video series or the best pilot in space.
Don't sweat it. Just fly what you enjoy and shoot ****. Ask your killers for advice if you're not sure why you died. We soloists are a pretty friendly bunch, especially in lowsec. This Space Intentionally Left Blank |
Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:31:00 -
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Maximus Hashur wrote:I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this? OGB free frigate pilot here. \o/
When i started i was losing way more fights than i won just because so few people actually take 1v1 fights. These days i specialized in one ship, i know what i can take, i know what i can't, i'm used to quite a few of the pilots i encounter and i pick my fights a bit more careful. Also i can keep calm in fights these days and know when and how to bail if things go bad.
I'm probably averaging 5 kills per loss now. pew pew |
Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
43
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:32:00 -
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**** me, i can't forums. pew pew |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
514
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:15:00 -
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Garresh wrote:Quote:As long as you're having fun your k:d/isk ratio doesn't matter too much I think. This. Why are you soloing if not for fun? Its bad for your kill board compared to blobbing
It's great for your kb if you care about points and ranking, not isk efficiency.
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