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Maximus Hashur
Vanus Technical Solutions Corp
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:02:00 -
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I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?
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0oO0oOoOo0o
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:15:00 -
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This depends on the shiptype you fly, don't you think ? There will be a difference between flying around in a ceptor and picking the fights you like or flying around solo in a torpedo raven. |
Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis Dragonaors
14
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Posted - 2013.05.16 22:01:00 -
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Pick yo fights betta |
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:12:00 -
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Numbers wise it can take a bit of practice before you win more than you lose.
Keep your ships cheap and eventually you will kill something shiny enough to balance out kill loss isk ratios.
Key is to know your ships. Your own and your enemies. They need to think they can win you need to know you have a fair chance of beating them.
Cannot do much about camps, blobs and OGB although that is not as common as people say it is. |
Zoe Fishpants
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
0
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:41:00 -
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When I started flying solo more frequently my kill/loss ratio went into the toilet and has pretty much stayed there ever since, fluctuating between 5 to 1 and 4 to 1 for the last several months. I think it probably depends on the type of engagements you're taking. I take almost any fight, no matter how stupid, fly mostly scram range frigates and I'm fairly lousy at the game to boot. My ratio should be lousy, or at least that's what I tell myself.
Just taking a quick look at your killboard, it looks like you fly a lot of kitey ships, like the duel damp condor, and sniper ships, like the sniper corm and the arty thrasher. Honestly, you should have a much much better ratio with those types of ships as they give an overwhelming advantage when used as intended. You probably want to look at your tactics and how you're flying them. |
God's Apples
The Tuskers
74
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Posted - 2013.05.17 00:14:00 -
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If you want to be a successful solo PvPer you should stick to one area and get to know the locals in the immediate and surrounding areas really well. EvE is a game of knowledge and if you want to win a lot of fights then you need to know what every ship is capable of and how they are usually fit as well as the role of the ship you're flying and what it's strengths/weaknesses are. This comes with experience so get out there and take every fight you can find.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=God%27s+Apples#kills <- my KB just so you know I have an idea of what I'm talking about. The majority of my kills are solo all without links and I manage to pull of a 3.5:1 K/D and a 73:1 K/D (I don['t know how this happened) this week.
Hope this helps. |
1st-Garrentious WispBender
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2013.05.17 00:15:00 -
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If you fly Solo, then you ain't Gallente. Learn to friendship. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
508
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Posted - 2013.05.17 00:50:00 -
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1st-Garrentious WispBender wrote:If you fly Solo, then you ain't Gallente. Learn to friendship.
You know, if you are going to troll the Gallente militia you might not want to use "The best ship is friendship" line which came from a Caldari FC :) |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
Caldari State Capturing
376
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Posted - 2013.05.17 02:26:00 -
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chatgris wrote:1st-Garrentious WispBender wrote:If you fly Solo, then you ain't Gallente. Learn to friendship. You know, if you are going to troll the Gallente militia you might not want to use "The best ship is friendship" line which came from a Caldari FC :)
Wouldn't that make the obvious even more obvious?
There might be like 1 person left who doesn't know who owns that toon (it's not me btw)
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Super Chair
Amarrian Vengeance
508
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Posted - 2013.05.17 04:31:00 -
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If i were to make an alt to troll the forums it would be "Fatgris". Chatgris's overweight twin sister that sucks at PvP (the weight issue comes from an inferiority complex so emotional eating ensues). Much flying of terribad gallente ships would happen on this alt to further the persona.
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Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
166
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:48:00 -
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Depends on the context.
I did a fair amount of low-sec solo work in a vagabond and a wolf for a while and managed about 50% being pretty aggressive and taking on just about any target that would fight.
2 years ago or so I had a stint of doing a lot of solo work in a myrmidon as well and while much of it was gate camping that allows you to pick you targets carefully I still only managed about 80% (one month 96% and one month 54% because of being too aggressive). I killed a noctis on day 1 after its introduction with it and may be one of the first people in eve to have killed a noctis.
In the end I wasn't left with really good killboard stats but I do have a pretty good understanding of what the ships I was using can and cannot do.
In the wormhole my success rate while solo is nearly 100% but that's because I don't usually go after very difficult targets. I have more miners and noctis kills and the odd prober that forgot to cloak up than anything. Those characters aren't my PVP mains though so it's just dicking around. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
509
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:04:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:If i were to make an alt to troll the forums it would be "Fatgris". Chatgris's overweight twin sister that sucks at PvP (the weight issue comes from an inferiority complex so emotional eating ensues). Much flying of terribad gallente ships would happen on this alt to further the persona.
I didn't mean to imply that he was your alt, I know it's Sean Parisi's.
But that is a hilarious troll alt idea though :) |
Hatgris
Frogs United
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:13:00 -
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Hey guys! What's going on in this thread? |
George Boothe
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:31:00 -
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I mainl fly around in t1 frigs and dessies in LS and manage to come to around 1 kill for every 2 losses, BUT around 40%-50% of my losses are actually pod losses because I am too lazy to warp my pod all the way back home, as it only costs 200k isk at the moment. So generally I have the choice between letting them get my pod and be home instantly or warping out and selfdestructing which takes 2 minutes.
Lately I have started to try and get my pod out as it bothers me a little that my K/D ratio is so skewed.
Isk wise, I usually destroy four times as much as I loose.
Most of my kills are from 1v1s whereas only a small part of my losses is in 1v1s. My connection is pretty bad and I would say (without checking the actual numbers, just from very subjective feeling) that 40% of my actual ship losses are from me picking a fight that I knew was not a good idea, but I had roamed so long that I was getting bored. 40% are from blobs/Camps/ogb that I could not avoid. 10% are from actual fair 1v1s where the other person was just better or had the better fit and another 10% due to me loosing connection in the middle of a fight.
I am pretty sure that my K/D could get a lot better if I stopped engaging in situations where I know it is not a good idea, however a lot of the best fights that I had only occured because I decided to engage even though I thought I would have no chance.
I will gladly loose a couple of frigs and dessies for the off chance that I get an awesome kill against the odds sometimes. |
Garresh
Opposite of Low
189
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:54:00 -
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Many solo pilots won't have that great of a killboard. You should, however, find some ships you do well with. My killboard looks like ass, but my record with Rifters and Firetails is awesome. Can't seem to get the hang of the nano-wolf though. Oh well. Just keep at it and keep trying new ships til you find some you like. As much as character skills matter, I feel like a lot of players just naturally gravitate towards, and do better with, certain ships.
Actually, if you don't want to be bored, aim for a good isk ratio, not a good kill ratio. You'll have more fun and still have something to wave your epeen around with.
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Zappity
Kurved Space
86
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:54:00 -
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About 1:1 (kill:loss) with losses split equally between just losing to a better pilot or ship and losing to a blob. I'm a noob at PvP but not new to the game.
I fly solo or if I could be bothered with a covops alt for gatecamps and scouting nearby systems to find more fights. No links.
Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Maksim Cammeren
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:15:00 -
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When I see an engageable pilot in lowsec and I have the time to evaluate how hard the fight would be, I evaluate their "threat level" approximately in this order:
1. Character age. <1 year old is usually, with some exceptions, not much of a threat, because of character skills. Above 2 years I expect nearly maxed skills (for small ships)
2. Does their killboard show any solo activity? If they have little solo experience, they are safer to engage
3. If they have significant solo activity, is it ganks or what seems like "fair fights"? (of course, there is no truly fair fights in EVE)
4. Their killboard statistics: ISK efficiency, K/D, etc.
I am sure that others have similar though processes.
So, the question is, would you rather have good KB stats or be considered a threat when someone sees your ship out in space?
As to KB stats: everyone can't have great isk efficiency and K/D. It could be a good way to motivate yourself, but it also depends on how risk averse you are. For example, not engaging a Dessie with a newbish pilot with an experienced T1 frig pilot is being risk averse, which I am guilty of, on occasion.  |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
859
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:26:00 -
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Maximus Hashur wrote:I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?
Depends on what i fly
When i do my favorite ships i get from 8-20 kills per loss average
When i fly riskier stuff i probably don't average more than 3-5 kills per loss.
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Super Chair
Amarrian Vengeance
511
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:29:00 -
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Hatgris wrote:Hey guys! What's going on in this thread?
Shut up buck :D
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
511
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:34:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:Hatgris wrote:Hey guys! What's going on in this thread? Shut up buck :D
I can confirm that this isn't buck's alt (nor mine). |
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Seraph Castillon
Justified Chaos
64
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:29:00 -
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I don't know what ratio's I'm getting, but I can't complain. Most of your losses will come from choosing the wrong fights or not reading the situation correctly. Work on that.
Like I've said in previous threads on this: train your situational awareness skills. Before you take a fight, try and determine if there are fleets in system and who is in them. Check directional scan for T3 boosters and command ships. Learn the names of booster alts, add them with standings if needed. Learn what systems are home to booster using, waffle-eating pussies.
Looking at your fits I can't say they are optimal for solo either. Your Merlin for example. It's too slow to have sufficient range control, even with the TD. Its low DPS also means that you cannot engage any rocket frigates in it either.
Also keep in mind that you're much more likely to get blobbed on weekends and Friday evenings. |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society
The Devil's Tattoo
946
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:44:00 -
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Maximus Hashur wrote:I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?
I fly solo allot with no ogb.
I do pay for the best mods I can fit, meta 5 or below. So my ships aren't what I would call cheap but they mostly aren't bling. I really don't recomend using the very cheap ships unless you are learning the absolute basics. Figure out an income source. 100 million isk is like $3. So You can get about 10 t1 frigates that cost 15 mill for $4.50 if you just pay out of pocket.
My loss kill ratio is about 2-3 kills per loss. Not great but its not bad. I can go on rolls where I lose 5 ships with no kill. But you have to learn to trust in your fitting and piloting skills to get through those streaks. If I lose ships due to gate camps I don't take that into account when evaluating a fit. I take allot of fights where I know I will get killed but just hope I can get a kill before I die.
I don't care about my isk ratio very much. Being in a blob for a while will get your isk ratio high if you care about that. If you are on a 2 billion isk kill with 20 other pilots, all 20 get credited with a 2 billion isk kill. Solo pilots should not expect to have a great isk ratio.
I tend to look at my overall battleclinic points per kill versus my battleclinic points per loss to see how I am doing. But this is not perfect. If I fly a destroyer and kill 4 t1 frigates this will lower this ratio but its still a good result and likely a fun fight.
I also tend to look at how many bc points I gave or took in a fight. But again this isn't perfect either. E.g., assume I am in a destroyer and fight 1 destroyer and a t1 frigate. Assume I kill the destroyer but the t1 frigate finishes me off. I will typically just get 20 bc points for the dessie kill. That frigate will get a killmail worth about 40 or 60 bc(depending on the type of dessie) points because it will show he killed my destroyer with the help of a pod. There I say Battleclinic points be damned I love lossmails with pods on my kill.
I have been known to use some expensive implants and lose my pod due to dumb mistakes. IMO Low sec pilots should learn to avoid these mistakes so they can use better implants. I think implants are just a part of fitting ships in low sec and can make a big difference. Not as big of a difference as booster ships but definite edges. I imagine I view my implant sets like some null sec pilots view their cap ships. They are very important tools for what I do (low sec pvp) and I consider the isk I spend on them well spent.
Sorry for the long answer that went way beyond your question. But these are the loose standards I use to mark my progress.
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feihcsiM
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:52:00 -
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God's Apples wrote:http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=God%27s+Apples#kills <- my KB just so you know I have an idea of what I'm talking about.
I thought you did, then you linked battleclinic 
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
860
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:01:00 -
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feihcsiM wrote:God's Apples wrote:http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=God%27s+Apples#kills <- my KB just so you know I have an idea of what I'm talking about. I thought you did, then you linked battleclinic
Battleclinic is actually great to determine if someone has a lot of quality kills.
Look at kill count, compare it with ranking, skim over kills to see if there is any bullshit going on (frig station camping, high sec pvp that kinda thing)
And you can get a pretty good idea.
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Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society
The Devil's Tattoo
946
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:02:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:If i were to make an alt to troll the forums it would be "Fatgris". Chatgris's overweight twin sister that sucks at PvP (the weight issue comes from an inferiority complex so emotional eating ensues). Much flying of terribad gallente ships would happen on this alt to further the persona.
See if you can buy this character and get her in some bad gallente ships:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Chatgrus
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Banly
Acerbus Vindictum Training Wing
Stealth Wear Inc.
1
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:31:00 -
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It's probably right around 1:1 when I'm flying around solo. I'm too lazy to get a second account for OGB and never have implants because I get podded way more than anyone should be. If I'm smart about it and have time to be patient I can get a pretty good ratio going until I run into someone who has OGB or insane implants but that's just part of the game. Generally I'm just goofing around though and try to win against the first thing I see on dscan (I've got some pretty ******** losses due to this).
As long as you're having fun your k:d/isk ratio doesn't matter too much I think. |
Garresh
Opposite of Low
191
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:30:00 -
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Quote:As long as you're having fun your k:d/isk ratio doesn't matter too much I think.
This. Why are you soloing if not for fun? Its bad for your kill board compared to blobbing, pays ****, won't make you efamous unless you're doing a video series or the best pilot in space.
Don't sweat it. Just fly what you enjoy and shoot ****. Ask your killers for advice if you're not sure why you died. We soloists are a pretty friendly bunch, especially in lowsec.
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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
43
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:31:00 -
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Maximus Hashur wrote:I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?
OGB free frigate pilot here. \o/
When i started i was losing way more fights than i won just because so few people actually take 1v1 fights. These days i specialized in one ship, i know what i can take, i know what i can't, i'm used to quite a few of the pilots i encounter and i pick my fights a bit more careful. Also i can keep calm in fights these days and know when and how to bail if things go bad.
I'm probably averaging 5 kills per loss now.
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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
43
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:32:00 -
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**** me, i can't forums.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
514
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:15:00 -
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Garresh wrote:Quote:As long as you're having fun your k:d/isk ratio doesn't matter too much I think. This. Why are you soloing if not for fun? Its bad for your kill board compared to blobbing
It's great for your kb if you care about points and ranking, not isk efficiency.
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Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
223
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:29:00 -
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I get between 2-3 kills for one loss.
My policy is: anything with a 50/50 or better odds of winning gets an engagement.
When I get bored or when testing new fits, I will engage at higher odds (generally up to 20/80 in the enemies favor).
I lose some ships like dumb things like afk plexing. But hey, I get bored easily. Hanging in a plex right now while typing this in fact without view of the client.
I don't use OGB's and only rarely expensive mods or implants, simply because I can afford to lose them with regularity since the stuff improves my odds so will only result in improving my viable list of targets.
As for K/D ratios or isk ratio's, I don't really care. I never look at them when evaluating the skill of a hostile pilot, because they are very poor predictors of actual ability. |
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
223
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:30:00 -
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chatgris wrote:[quote=Garresh]
It's great for your kb if you care about points and ranking, not isk efficiency.
If you avoid risky fights, it is. But the fun is in risky fights...
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
514
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:33:00 -
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Merdaneth wrote:chatgris wrote:[quote=Garresh]
It's great for your kb if you care about points and ranking, not isk efficiency.
If you avoid risky fights, it is. But the fun is in risky fights...
Generally false: For example, lets say you take a destroyer into a group of 10 frigates and you manage to kill just one before you die.
You get: 10 points.
You lose: 4 points
The more people who get on your lossmail, the less points you lose. Which tends to incentive risky behaviour, which IMO is fun.
When you aren't hopelessly outnumbered:
If you kill a destroyer with another destroyer: 20 points.
If you gamble and take a t1 frig instead and kill the destroyer, 40 points. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1747
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:43:00 -
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i fly solo most of the time and refuse to use mechanics like OGBs, ECM or dampening on the ships i fly since i also don't like them when they are used on the other side. I do it mostly for the challenge so i don't always use general purpose ships with high success ratios. (for example i don't think i ever piloted a minmatar ship - even back when rifters where cool).
I can recommend two things for soloers:
- try to record your fights... its the best way to learn from your mistakes if you can watch it again later.
Thats actually something i should have done from the beginning but i haven't.
- and don't switch ships all the time ;) get used to one and fly it a few times... otherwise very stupid mistakes will happen (at least in my case)
k/d ratio? no clue, probably quite bad.
eve style bounties (done)
dust boarding parties
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Garresh
Opposite of Low
192
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Posted - 2013.05.17 22:17:00 -
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Wow I didn't realize the point system was weighted that way. I'd always been saying kill boards need to account for people involved, but anyways. Question though: I tend to go through phases in regards to PvP. Like I'll PvP for a month, then take a break to raise money, then head back. Do points decay or favor more active pilots?
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
515
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Posted - 2013.05.17 22:22:00 -
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Garresh wrote:Wow I didn't realize the point system was weighted that way. I'd always been saying kill boards need to account for people involved, but anyways. Question though: I tend to go through phases in regards to PvP. Like I'll PvP for a month, then take a break to raise money, then head back. Do points decay or favor more active pilots?
Points do not decay - they favour active pilots only in so much if you're not pvping, you're not accumulating points. |
Maximus Hashur
Vanus Technical Solutions Corp
Covert Intervention
60
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:09:00 -
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yea I think im going to switch my fits to a more brawler style. Ive been doing the kite thing for a while now with mixed results
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Zappity
Kurved Space
87
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:12:00 -
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Why do all the "cool" people dislike the Battleclinic killboard? I find the points system quite useful for evaluating progress.
But most importantly, you can copy/paste a pilot's name directly into the URL to get their details quickly.
Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
43
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:24:00 -
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Zappity wrote:But most importantly, you can copy/paste a pilot's name directly into the URL to get their details while you to go and make a coffee. When it's done and you're back, the site is most likely done loading. Now it sounds more accurate.
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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
43
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:25:00 -
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GODDAMN SOMEONE PUT THE EDIT AND THE QUOTE BUTTON FURTHER APART FROM EACH OTHER.
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Zappity
Kurved Space
87
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:56:00 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:Zappity wrote:But most importantly, you can copy/paste a pilot's name directly into the URL to get their details while you to go and make a coffee. When it's done and you're back, the site is most likely done loading. Now it sounds more accurate.
Which killboard do you lose? Iw have tried eve-kill since BC does take a couple of seconds to load but I find it difficult to get the information I want quickly:
1. URL uses an ID rather than name so you have to have use a search box.
2. Then click on the pilot name and you get taken to their home screen. I want to look quickly at your recent losses but have to click again for that and wait for another page to load.
3. Now I want to flick through your last three Tristan losses while warping to the plex but can't open them all in new tabs by Ctrl+click.
4. And now I want to look up someone else and have to find a search box again because it is not available on every page.
I'll wait the 4 seconds it took to do all of that on Battleclinic.
Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
STSxLight
Corporate Scum
Test Alliance Please Ignore
24
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Posted - 2013.05.18 07:54:00 -
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sometimes you get 4 to 1 sometimes 1 to 4 depends on wich ship you choose to fly and what you fight, stop caring that much about KB, the more you fight the better you get ... o7
"Oh, you think nullsec is your ally. But you merely adopted nullsec; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!" |
Vaihto Ehto
17
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Posted - 2013.05.18 10:58:00 -
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Combatevolved wrote:Pick yo fights betta
This pretty much. There's no reason to regularly lose a ship if fighting solo.
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Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:43:00 -
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Vaihto Ehto wrote:Combatevolved wrote:Pick yo fights betta This pretty much. There's no reason to regularly lose a ship if fighting solo.
There is plenty reason. With a bit of commons sense you can see that your way of flying is self-defeating.
That is because if everyone flies like you, then no one will lose ships.
In PvP, risk-averse like yourself need the risk-takers to get fights, but risk-takes do not need you. |
Agmonar
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:32:00 -
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Dont give up is the real point. Look at my kills. Most all solo not all mind you, but picked poor engagements. I am roughly 50 50 for my choice. Skills come into play of course but finding the right time to strike is key. Learn to use d scan or you will die Lot. Pick a ship your skills favor as well and fly it exclusively for a while. Change the fit and let the kill mails roll.  |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
864
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:40:00 -
[46] - Quote
Vaihto Ehto wrote:Combatevolved wrote:Pick yo fights betta This pretty much. There's no reason to regularly lose a ship if fighting solo.
All the best frig pilots die constantly
You see three frigates together in a plex.. and you think.. If they are on the ball they will really violate me...
But they might be terrible.....
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Omega Crendraven
ARG TeAm ELITE
21
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:43:00 -
[47] - Quote
God's Apples wrote:If you want to be a successful solo PvPer you should stick to one area and get to know the locals in the immediate and surrounding areas really well. EvE is a game of knowledge and if you want to win a lot of fights then you need to know what every ship is capable of and how they are usually fit as well as the role of the ship you're flying and what it's strengths/weaknesses are. This comes with experience so get out there and take every fight you can find. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=God%27s+Apples#kills <- my KB just so you know I have an idea of what I'm talking about. The majority of my kills are solo all without links and I manage to pull of a 3.5:1 K/D and a 73:1 K/D (I don['t know how this happened) this week. Hope this helps.
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Vaihto Ehto
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Posted - 2013.05.19 09:18:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:
But they might be terrible.....
Agreed. Always bet on stupid, as they say.
My previous comment was obviously bit of an exacerbation. In a sense, if you do things right you should almost never die. However, it's the taking risks part which makes things interesting and nets you all the cool kilmails and gets the adrenaline rushing through your veins.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
4
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Posted - 2013.05.19 10:26:00 -
[49] - Quote
Well it depends on what you are killing and your tactics. I only just started playing again but before I left flying cloaky proteus solo war deccing my kill loss on last war was 25 kills to 0. Never been killed in a cloaky proteus but I'm not a great pvp'r so I am very selective about what I engage. |
Maximus Hashur
n.Die
The Periphery
60
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:42:00 -
[50] - Quote
Garviel Tarrant wrote:Vaihto Ehto wrote:Combatevolved wrote:Pick yo fights betta This pretty much. There's no reason to regularly lose a ship if fighting solo. All the best frig pilots die constantly You see three frigates together in a plex.. and you think.. If they are on the ball they will really violate me... But they might be terrible.....
This pretty much sums up my attitude when deciding if im going to go after a fight.
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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
764
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:48:00 -
[51] - Quote
How often you die depends on how good you are. Partially. It also depends heavily on what types of ships you're flying and how ballsy you are. You can get a fantastic KDR by being a gigantic ***** and only engaging things you're sure to kill, but that doesn't require you to be "good". |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
874
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Posted - 2013.05.20 03:30:00 -
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The thing that makes Eve really different is that about 80% of the skill comes into play before the fight.
A good player can sometimes spend 10-20 minutes trying to set his opponents up in a way that makes an unfavorable fight winnable.
I know this may sound weird but its just the truth. In most cases what happens before the fight is more important then what happens during.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
4
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Posted - 2013.05.20 07:10:00 -
[53] - Quote
^^ +1 |
Operative X10-4
Vera Cruz.
Nulli Secunda
16
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Posted - 2013.05.20 14:38:00 -
[54] - Quote
I love solo fights, when I'm not helping my corp members in operations, I go to verge vendor and chill out looking for solo fights, In general I can get K/D 2.5:1 kill ratio. All depends on knowledge about what your ship can do and what you can engage, select your fights and you can get a decent K/D ratio.
Take some time reading all the information about ships and modules, know them by heart, know how to apply them and etc.
Maybe the most important is: Be agressive and smart, you have to face the odds, sometimes you can get some impressive kills if you decide to engage instead of running away ( just dont be stupid :P ). The best pilot is not the one with most kills in the kill board, the best one, is the one who dare to do things and achieve victories in odd situations. Thats for sure will increase your loss ratio, but when you win in a situation like that the feeling is amazing.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
987
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:11:00 -
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how do you know they have crazy off grid boosts and they are not just crazy pilots?
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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
43
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:19:00 -
[56] - Quote
Muad 'dib wrote:how do you know they have crazy off grid boosts and they are not just crazy pilots?
Well, certain corp tickers kinda give it away.
TMFED for example. That's a corp ticker that pretty much screams "i never fly without boosts".
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
880
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:08:00 -
[57] - Quote
Muad 'dib wrote:how do you know they have crazy off grid boosts and they are not just crazy pilots?
30km points are a hint.
And when ships go way faster than they should.
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Maximus Hashur
n.Die
The Periphery
60
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:43:00 -
[58] - Quote
Muad 'dib wrote:how do you know they have crazy off grid boosts and they are not just crazy pilots?
I mainly base it on a much tougher that normal tank on an opponent. Thats really the only time ive been able to tell.
When a hookbill it at 10km not orbiting me, and im hitting him with 280 arty getting direct hits because transversal is 0, and his shields barely move each volley i know. He admitted in local he was boosted after i called bullshit.
Edit to this - he was not orbiting me because he was webbed by me and keeping me in place with dual webs and must have hit keep at range, because his ship just stayed in place with my thrasher.
Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.-á Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!! |
Super Chair
Amarrian Vengeance
514
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Posted - 2013.05.24 06:34:00 -
[59] - Quote
Zen Guerrilla wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:how do you know they have crazy off grid boosts and they are not just crazy pilots? Well, certain corp tickers kinda give it away. TMFED for example. That's a corp ticker that pretty much screams "i never fly without boosts".
I think the same can be said about FEO :D
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Trinkets friend
Minmatar-Amarr Man-Boy Love Association
1014
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Posted - 2013.05.24 06:48:00 -
[60] - Quote
Maximus Hashur wrote:
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?
Do what everyone else does - avoid ships and fights you cannot 100% win against. If you want, hit me up in game for a Vigil fit that will eat certain ships for breakfast, guaranteed (to a certain fumble-fingered level of pilot ability).
Indigently pwning indifferently. Some sucker buy me a Naglfar.
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Skelee VI
Wraithguard.
BricK sQuAD.
25
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:30:00 -
[61] - Quote
I am more picky of late but i am at 50% atm. Some good fights and honourable ones too.
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Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
260
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:54:00 -
[62] - Quote
I'm too lazy to run OGB or dualbox any alts on field.
Well I say lazy, usually i'm too drunk to dualbox.
When you have a covert T3 and a really cynical view of the world, you tend not to lose ships often even when you don't run boosters. |
Agmonar
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:19:00 -
[63] - Quote
You can do it. Your kills will be 1 for 2 not bad go ahead and look me up. More loss to blobs then single guys. Flying solo makes you a better gage of fights.  |
Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
2
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:36:00 -
[64] - Quote
Basically there are two kinds of true solo pvp'er. One groups sticks with comparable cheap but effective ships ... mostly frig sized ships and the other group relies much more on expensive ships and fittings - squeezing even the last bit of power out of it. The first group gets much more fights in general - the second one is very cautious when engaging. But i tend to disagree with the importance of knowing the who-is-who of your enemies (uhh now that's an ugly sentence). It's safe to assume that your enemy isn't solo. Almost never is. Waiting to meet a true solo pilot means getting no fights at all. The most respect i have, is for people with obviously not that great kb stats. They risk something ... against the odds and don't get discouraged. These are the guys bringing fun into fights and delivering "gf"s.
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Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
2
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:45:00 -
[65] - Quote
Harhar funny k:d ratio Agmonar 
That's the spirit !
I'm sick of seeing k:d stats like 600:40 ...
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
915
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:04:00 -
[66] - Quote
Get an incursus
fit rails on it
Scram kite like a boss
win eve.
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Agmonar
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:56:00 -
[67] - Quote
Thanks! I am not leet or even the pwn master. I like to have fun. Sure i have died a **** ton but each death makes me smarter on what i can do and what i can not do. Ill even try some basically dumb moves to see how others react and you know what so of those i have won.  |
Rohk Etmann
Federal Defense Correctional Division
1
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:48:00 -
[68] - Quote
I also belive that picking your fights is very important to remeber. I constantly have to hit that scanner so that maybe I have time to switch ammo types or ready to warp out if their buddies come along. |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
261
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Posted - 2013.05.26 10:28:00 -
[69] - Quote
Mother Drone wrote:
Basically there are two kinds of true solo pvp'er. One groups sticks with comparable cheap but effective ships ... mostly frig sized ships and the other group relies much more on expensive ships and fittings - squeezing even the last bit of power out of it. The first group gets much more fights in general - the second one is very cautious when engaging. But i tend to disagree with the importance of knowing the who-is-who of your enemies (uhh now that's an ugly sentence). It's safe to assume that your enemy isn't solo. Almost never is. Waiting to meet a true solo pilot means getting no fights at all. The most respect i have, is for people with obviously not that great kb stats. They risk something ... against the odds and don't get discouraged. These are the guys bringing fun into fights and delivering "gf"s.
The two are kind of linked. If you fit up a cheap ship and go out looking for 1v1s you might be waiting a while. Fitting a more expensive setup that can cope with multiple opponents opens up additional options when you're out hunting for a fight. |
Deych
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.05.26 15:12:00 -
[70] - Quote
2 month of solo experience. April - about 1:1 (45%), May - 2.3:1 |
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Nitko Koraka
Muskrat Liberation Front
10
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:54:00 -
[71] - Quote
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
All the best frig pilots die constantly
You see three frigates together in a plex.. and you think.. If they are on the ball they will really violate me...
But they might be terrible.....
Best advice in this thread. Some of the best fights I've ever had have been when I've been outmanned or outgunned. It does result in a lot of dying but it is worth it when you go 3 v 1 and walk away with three killmails because you outsmarted your opponent. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
29
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:36:00 -
[72] - Quote
Nitko Koraka wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:
All the best frig pilots die constantly
You see three frigates together in a plex.. and you think.. If they are on the ball they will really violate me...
But they might be terrible.....
Best advice in this thread. Some of the best fights I've ever had have been when I've been outmanned or outgunned. It does result in a lot of dying but it is worth it when you go 3 v 1 and walk away with three killmails because you outsmarted your opponent.
Requires flying small crappy ships or a huge wallet though.
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
919
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Posted - 2013.05.27 20:27:00 -
[73] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:Nitko Koraka wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:
All the best frig pilots die constantly
You see three frigates together in a plex.. and you think.. If they are on the ball they will really violate me...
But they might be terrible.....
Best advice in this thread. Some of the best fights I've ever had have been when I've been outmanned or outgunned. It does result in a lot of dying but it is worth it when you go 3 v 1 and walk away with three killmails because you outsmarted your opponent. Requires flying small crappy ships or a huge wallet though.
Small yes, crappy noooo.
Its hard to enjoy pvp if you're flying something you really don't want to lose.
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Agmonar
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.27 23:32:00 -
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To learn out though..small yes crappy no but decent yes. Try a slasher or merlin then incurus. Punisher is good too depends. Dont go so crappy you lose out right, give yourself an exit to bounce the ship without feeling guilty of the isk loss. |
Raptors Mole
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
128
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:04:00 -
[75] - Quote
From mainly flying Frigs and Dessies solo/small gang in LS.
I have met a couple of pilots who have smashed my "Rock" to their "Scissors", without resorting to OGB. Innovative fits and good combat flying has left we wandering "How the frack, did that happen"!
They are the Elite pilots in my view even though their KB stats no better than 2:1 or even.
The pilot with 3000 kills and 50 losses is one to avoid - either OGB, falcon alt or bait for a gang. Some folks are just out for kills not PvP., nothing wrong with that, but they just have to crow "how good they are" afterwards in Local. I alway think small genitalia which has never been used in anger or crappy job but too lazy/afraid to go for something better.
Anyhow can't sit here all day typing, got to explode at least once tonight and still leave time to sit in my Bentley enjoying a BJ.
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1328
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:07:00 -
[76] - Quote
Maximus Hashur wrote:I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?
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Number 17
COLD-Wing
1
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:59:00 -
[77] - Quote
when you zoom all the way out, all ships look the same.
I love flying t1 stuff, because when you get that t2 or faction kill, it feels 10 times better.
what is ogb? I engaged vengeace and incursus since I came back (2 years out, came back last month) and they seem to have unbreakable tank, luckily both of these people sucked at keeping range so i got out both times. Then got accused in local of using WCS, imagine that!
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
36
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:02:00 -
[78] - Quote
Raptors Mole wrote:From mainly flying Frigs and Dessies solo/small gang in LS.
I have met a couple of pilots who have smashed my "Rock" to their "Scissors", without resorting to OGB. Innovative fits and good combat flying has left we wandering "How the frack, did that happen"!
They are the Elite pilots in my view even though their KB stats no better than 2:1 or even.
The pilot with 3000 kills and 50 losses is one to avoid - either OGB, falcon alt or bait for a gang. Some folks are just out for kills not PvP., nothing wrong with that, but they just have to crow "how good they are" afterwards in Local. I alway think small genitalia which has never been used in anger or crappy job but too lazy/afraid to go for something better.
Anyhow can't sit here all day typing, got to explode at least once tonight and still leave time to sit in my Bentley enjoying a BJ.
Raptors
I also hate those kill whores. Im a kill ***** though. My kills are low and mostly non-combat. Im a pretty crap pvpr but my goal is to war dec large alliances avoid the gangs and kill as many ships / pods as possible. Thats all I care about really, podding them and getting as high a solo k/d ratio as possible. I guess everyone has different goals and aims and as long as you enjoy what you do in game it doesnt really matter. |
The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
Mean Coalition
70
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Posted - 2013.06.01 21:57:00 -
[79] - Quote
Maximus Hashur wrote:I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?
Depends a lot on what you fly(nano, brawling or some tricky fits that only work under certain conditions). I have seen a lot of fights where I would have lost a mega for sure, while I got out with the pest or simply was in the better positions, being not double webbed and scrammed at point blank. Still the biggest factor when it comes to lose ships is engaging very recklessly and out of a very bad position(like 6vs1 and you already know the 5 hulls that wait till the bait got the point). However I think this are some of the most entertaining fights you can get(if you don't end up perma jammed) and the major reason people fly solo is that they search for the challenge and interesting fights. If you fly solo to have fun, I wouldn't worry this much about K\D ratios but to get fights that where entertaining enough to you to consider flying solo as fun. A 100/1 ratio isn't worth a damn thing if you need to camp in a cloaked recon for hours to kill a easy target once it comes out, it is just boring stuff. |
Garresh
Team Chicken and Waffles
242
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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:16:00 -
[80] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:Nitko Koraka wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:
All the best frig pilots die constantly
You see three frigates together in a plex.. and you think.. If they are on the ball they will really violate me...
But they might be terrible.....
Best advice in this thread. Some of the best fights I've ever had have been when I've been outmanned or outgunned. It does result in a lot of dying but it is worth it when you go 3 v 1 and walk away with three killmails because you outsmarted your opponent. Requires flying small crappy ships or a huge wallet though.
Yeah there are tons of relatively cheap awesome ships you can fly solo. Pretty much anything cruiser and below has a niche, and will get you fights. I mean, would you call the Incursus crappy? The Merlin? They may not be expensive, but goddamn are they reliable.
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