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Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:29:00 -
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I get between 2-3 kills for one loss.
My policy is: anything with a 50/50 or better odds of winning gets an engagement.
When I get bored or when testing new fits, I will engage at higher odds (generally up to 20/80 in the enemies favor).
I lose some ships like dumb things like afk plexing. But hey, I get bored easily. Hanging in a plex right now while typing this in fact without view of the client.
I don't use OGB's and only rarely expensive mods or implants, simply because I can afford to lose them with regularity since the stuff improves my odds so will only result in improving my viable list of targets.
As for K/D ratios or isk ratio's, I don't really care. I never look at them when evaluating the skill of a hostile pilot, because they are very poor predictors of actual ability. |
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
223
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:30:00 -
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chatgris wrote:[quote=Garresh]
It's great for your kb if you care about points and ranking, not isk efficiency.
If you avoid risky fights, it is. But the fun is in risky fights...
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
514
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:33:00 -
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Merdaneth wrote:chatgris wrote:[quote=Garresh]
It's great for your kb if you care about points and ranking, not isk efficiency.
If you avoid risky fights, it is. But the fun is in risky fights...
Generally false: For example, lets say you take a destroyer into a group of 10 frigates and you manage to kill just one before you die.
You get: 10 points.
You lose: 4 points
The more people who get on your lossmail, the less points you lose. Which tends to incentive risky behaviour, which IMO is fun.
When you aren't hopelessly outnumbered:
If you kill a destroyer with another destroyer: 20 points.
If you gamble and take a t1 frig instead and kill the destroyer, 40 points. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1747
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:43:00 -
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i fly solo most of the time and refuse to use mechanics like OGBs, ECM or dampening on the ships i fly since i also don't like them when they are used on the other side. I do it mostly for the challenge so i don't always use general purpose ships with high success ratios. (for example i don't think i ever piloted a minmatar ship - even back when rifters where cool).
I can recommend two things for soloers:
- try to record your fights... its the best way to learn from your mistakes if you can watch it again later.
Thats actually something i should have done from the beginning but i haven't.
- and don't switch ships all the time ;) get used to one and fly it a few times... otherwise very stupid mistakes will happen (at least in my case)
k/d ratio? no clue, probably quite bad.
eve style bounties (done)
dust boarding parties
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Garresh
Opposite of Low
192
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Posted - 2013.05.17 22:17:00 -
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Wow I didn't realize the point system was weighted that way. I'd always been saying kill boards need to account for people involved, but anyways. Question though: I tend to go through phases in regards to PvP. Like I'll PvP for a month, then take a break to raise money, then head back. Do points decay or favor more active pilots?
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
515
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Posted - 2013.05.17 22:22:00 -
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Garresh wrote:Wow I didn't realize the point system was weighted that way. I'd always been saying kill boards need to account for people involved, but anyways. Question though: I tend to go through phases in regards to PvP. Like I'll PvP for a month, then take a break to raise money, then head back. Do points decay or favor more active pilots?
Points do not decay - they favour active pilots only in so much if you're not pvping, you're not accumulating points. |
Maximus Hashur
Vanus Technical Solutions Corp
Covert Intervention
60
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:09:00 -
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yea I think im going to switch my fits to a more brawler style. Ive been doing the kite thing for a while now with mixed results
Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.-á Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!! |
Zappity
Kurved Space
87
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:12:00 -
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Why do all the "cool" people dislike the Battleclinic killboard? I find the points system quite useful for evaluating progress.
But most importantly, you can copy/paste a pilot's name directly into the URL to get their details quickly.
Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
43
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:24:00 -
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Zappity wrote:But most importantly, you can copy/paste a pilot's name directly into the URL to get their details while you to go and make a coffee. When it's done and you're back, the site is most likely done loading. Now it sounds more accurate.
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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
43
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:25:00 -
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GODDAMN SOMEONE PUT THE EDIT AND THE QUOTE BUTTON FURTHER APART FROM EACH OTHER. 
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Zappity
Kurved Space
87
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:56:00 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:Zappity wrote:But most importantly, you can copy/paste a pilot's name directly into the URL to get their details while you to go and make a coffee. When it's done and you're back, the site is most likely done loading. Now it sounds more accurate.
Which killboard do you lose? Iw have tried eve-kill since BC does take a couple of seconds to load but I find it difficult to get the information I want quickly:
1. URL uses an ID rather than name so you have to have use a search box.
2. Then click on the pilot name and you get taken to their home screen. I want to look quickly at your recent losses but have to click again for that and wait for another page to load.
3. Now I want to flick through your last three Tristan losses while warping to the plex but can't open them all in new tabs by Ctrl+click.
4. And now I want to look up someone else and have to find a search box again because it is not available on every page.
I'll wait the 4 seconds it took to do all of that on Battleclinic.
Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
STSxLight
Corporate Scum
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.18 07:54:00 -
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sometimes you get 4 to 1 sometimes 1 to 4 depends on wich ship you choose to fly and what you fight, stop caring that much about KB, the more you fight the better you get ... o7
"Oh, you think nullsec is your ally. But you merely adopted nullsec; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!" |
Vaihto Ehto
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Posted - 2013.05.18 10:58:00 -
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Combatevolved wrote:Pick yo fights betta
This pretty much. There's no reason to regularly lose a ship if fighting solo.
Why would you not use an alt to post on the forums? |
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
223
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:43:00 -
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Vaihto Ehto wrote:Combatevolved wrote:Pick yo fights betta This pretty much. There's no reason to regularly lose a ship if fighting solo.
There is plenty reason. With a bit of commons sense you can see that your way of flying is self-defeating.
That is because if everyone flies like you, then no one will lose ships.
In PvP, risk-averse like yourself need the risk-takers to get fights, but risk-takes do not need you. |
Agmonar
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:32:00 -
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Dont give up is the real point. Look at my kills. Most all solo not all mind you, but picked poor engagements. I am roughly 50 50 for my choice. Skills come into play of course but finding the right time to strike is key. Learn to use d scan or you will die Lot. Pick a ship your skills favor as well and fly it exclusively for a while. Change the fit and let the kill mails roll.  |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
864
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:40:00 -
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Vaihto Ehto wrote:Combatevolved wrote:Pick yo fights betta This pretty much. There's no reason to regularly lose a ship if fighting solo.
All the best frig pilots die constantly
You see three frigates together in a plex.. and you think.. If they are on the ball they will really violate me...
But they might be terrible.....
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Omega Crendraven
ARG TeAm ELITE
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:43:00 -
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God's Apples wrote:If you want to be a successful solo PvPer you should stick to one area and get to know the locals in the immediate and surrounding areas really well. EvE is a game of knowledge and if you want to win a lot of fights then you need to know what every ship is capable of and how they are usually fit as well as the role of the ship you're flying and what it's strengths/weaknesses are. This comes with experience so get out there and take every fight you can find. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=God%27s+Apples#kills <- my KB just so you know I have an idea of what I'm talking about. The majority of my kills are solo all without links and I manage to pull of a 3.5:1 K/D and a 73:1 K/D (I don['t know how this happened) this week. Hope this helps.
This... know your area, know the people, go hunt them
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Vaihto Ehto
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Posted - 2013.05.19 09:18:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:
But they might be terrible.....
Agreed. Always bet on stupid, as they say.
My previous comment was obviously bit of an exacerbation. In a sense, if you do things right you should almost never die. However, it's the taking risks part which makes things interesting and nets you all the cool kilmails and gets the adrenaline rushing through your veins.
Why would you not use an alt to post on the forums? |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
4
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Posted - 2013.05.19 10:26:00 -
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Well it depends on what you are killing and your tactics. I only just started playing again but before I left flying cloaky proteus solo war deccing my kill loss on last war was 25 kills to 0. Never been killed in a cloaky proteus but I'm not a great pvp'r so I am very selective about what I engage. |
Maximus Hashur
n.Die
The Periphery
60
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:42:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Vaihto Ehto wrote:Combatevolved wrote:Pick yo fights betta This pretty much. There's no reason to regularly lose a ship if fighting solo. All the best frig pilots die constantly You see three frigates together in a plex.. and you think.. If they are on the ball they will really violate me... But they might be terrible.....
This pretty much sums up my attitude when deciding if im going to go after a fight.
Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.-á Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!! |
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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
764
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:48:00 -
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How often you die depends on how good you are. Partially. It also depends heavily on what types of ships you're flying and how ballsy you are. You can get a fantastic KDR by being a gigantic ***** and only engaging things you're sure to kill, but that doesn't require you to be "good". |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
874
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Posted - 2013.05.20 03:30:00 -
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The thing that makes Eve really different is that about 80% of the skill comes into play before the fight.
A good player can sometimes spend 10-20 minutes trying to set his opponents up in a way that makes an unfavorable fight winnable.
I know this may sound weird but its just the truth. In most cases what happens before the fight is more important then what happens during.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
4
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Posted - 2013.05.20 07:10:00 -
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^^ +1 |
Operative X10-4
Vera Cruz.
Nulli Secunda
16
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Posted - 2013.05.20 14:38:00 -
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I love solo fights, when I'm not helping my corp members in operations, I go to verge vendor and chill out looking for solo fights, In general I can get K/D 2.5:1 kill ratio. All depends on knowledge about what your ship can do and what you can engage, select your fights and you can get a decent K/D ratio.
Take some time reading all the information about ships and modules, know them by heart, know how to apply them and etc.
Maybe the most important is: Be agressive and smart, you have to face the odds, sometimes you can get some impressive kills if you decide to engage instead of running away ( just dont be stupid :P ). The best pilot is not the one with most kills in the kill board, the best one, is the one who dare to do things and achieve victories in odd situations. Thats for sure will increase your loss ratio, but when you win in a situation like that the feeling is amazing.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
987
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:11:00 -
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how do you know they have crazy off grid boosts and they are not just crazy pilots?
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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
43
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:19:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:how do you know they have crazy off grid boosts and they are not just crazy pilots?
Well, certain corp tickers kinda give it away.
TMFED for example. That's a corp ticker that pretty much screams "i never fly without boosts".
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
880
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:08:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:how do you know they have crazy off grid boosts and they are not just crazy pilots?
30km points are a hint.
And when ships go way faster than they should.
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Maximus Hashur
n.Die
The Periphery
60
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:43:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:how do you know they have crazy off grid boosts and they are not just crazy pilots?
I mainly base it on a much tougher that normal tank on an opponent. Thats really the only time ive been able to tell.
When a hookbill it at 10km not orbiting me, and im hitting him with 280 arty getting direct hits because transversal is 0, and his shields barely move each volley i know. He admitted in local he was boosted after i called bullshit.
Edit to this - he was not orbiting me because he was webbed by me and keeping me in place with dual webs and must have hit keep at range, because his ship just stayed in place with my thrasher.
Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.-á Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!! |
Super Chair
Amarrian Vengeance
514
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Posted - 2013.05.24 06:34:00 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:how do you know they have crazy off grid boosts and they are not just crazy pilots? Well, certain corp tickers kinda give it away. TMFED for example. That's a corp ticker that pretty much screams "i never fly without boosts".
I think the same can be said about FEO :D
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Trinkets friend
Minmatar-Amarr Man-Boy Love Association
1014
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Posted - 2013.05.24 06:48:00 -
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Maximus Hashur wrote:
So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?
Do what everyone else does - avoid ships and fights you cannot 100% win against. If you want, hit me up in game for a Vigil fit that will eat certain ships for breakfast, guaranteed (to a certain fumble-fingered level of pilot ability).
Indigently pwning indifferently. Some sucker buy me a Naglfar.
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